Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 26



Category:Aviation accidents and incidents in Ibiza

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: double merge (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 07:46, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Aviation accidents and incidents in Ibiza to Category:Aviation accidents and incidents in Spain
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Has only one entry. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:06, 26 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge - obvbiously. The Spain category has no other splits.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:12, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Double merge, also to Category:Transport in Ibiza. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:51, 30 January 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Action heroes

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted  Categories for discussion/Log/2017 February 16 with sub-category. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:27, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting action heroes


 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:NONDEF, 'action hero' isn't a defining characteristic of people fictional characters in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:48, 26 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete purely subjective. Do we get a parallel category Category:Inaction heroes for couch potato? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 02:32, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment People in this category? The actual content is about fictional characters in the action genre, such as Batman, He-Man, and Indiana Jones. Dimadick (talk) 18:22, 3 February 2017 (UTC)


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Category:MMORPGs by year

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge and delete per nominator. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:42, 5 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting  Category:MMORPGs by year
 * Propose merging  Category:1996 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:1996 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:1997 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:1997 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:1998 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:1998 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:1999 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:1999 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2000 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2000 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2001 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2001 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2002 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2002 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2003 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2003 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2004 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2004 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2005 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2005 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2006 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2006 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2007 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2007 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2008 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2008 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2009 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2009 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2010 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2010 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2011 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2011 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2012 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2012 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2013 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2013 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2014 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2014 video games
 * Propose merging  Category:2015 MMORPGs to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games and Category:2015 video games
 * Nominator's rationale: Per the June 2016 CfD for role-playing video games by period, the January 2017 CfD for visual novels by period, and the WikiProject Video games discussion, the current consensus is that "video games by genre by year" is overcategorization.--IDVtalk 15:20, 26 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge to Categories by genre and decade; and do that as well with the categories already deleted (RPGs and visual novels). If I understand it right, those categories were deleted because there's not much difference between a game which came out in 1995 or 1996; however, there is a large difference between games that came out in 1996 and 2016. A cross-categorization by decade would allow us to find games in the same genre from the same period, with similar technological and gameplay styles. Grouping by decade (or maybe even every 5 years) would allow us to provide structure and handle the growth of the insanely large Category:Role-playing video games Diego (talk) 16:15, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge as nominated per precedent. This appears to be the last breakdown of overcategorized game genres by year. czar  18:41, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Listen: "by year" is the most important wikipedia category for video games. It's only reason I come here.I'm kind of a big deal and you should listen to me! Thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:646:8780:1E94:D4E3:291C:E1DF:2869 (talk) 11:26, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge as nominated - The basic principle here has already been thoroughly discussed in the above mentioned CfDs, but categories which combine multiple unrelated characteristics results in articles falling into an excessive number of categories, multiplies the amount of category upkeep required, and makes the category system many times more complicated without in any way adding to its usefulness.--Martin IIIa (talk) 14:30, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge as nominated per arguments raised at similar CFD. --The1337gamer (talk) 19:27, 3 February 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Pornographic music videos

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 07:48, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting pornographic music videos


 * Nominator's rationale: Not WP:DEFINING. — swpb T 14:58, 26 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete as there's only 2 entries, Regardless of that tho it's still a pointless category. – Davey 2010 Talk 16:30, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Too ambiguous a category. The term "pornographic" is subjective enough that whether or not certain articles fall into this category would inevitably result in edit wars which can never be definitively resolved. "Pornographic" is also a derogative term to 99.9% of the population, which means that editors who like an article's subject are unlikely to allow it to remain under this category.--Martin IIIa (talk) 14:43, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Aside from the above sound arguments, these appear to be porn videos with musical segments, not what are generally termed music videos. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.   (talk) 00:14, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ambiguous — the two entries here are 80-100 minute films which mix porn and music, not five-minute music videos per se — and subjective — should this also include "Justify My Love"? "Dis-moi, dis-moi"? That new Jonathan Roy video in which you actually see the singer's bare butt? Bearcat (talk) 16:51, 2 February 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Jek Grom

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 * The result of the discussion was: administrative close. Category has already been deleted per WP:G2. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:02, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting jek grom


 * Nominator's rationale: Useless to the encyclopedia. — swpb T 14:20, 26 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete as useless. K.e.coffman (talk) 16:58, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP: G3.--Martin IIIa (talk) 14:47, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


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Category:1570 establishments in Great Britain

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:16, 5 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting 1570 establishments in great britain


 * Nominator's rationale: Overlap with Category:1570 establishments in England — swpb T 14:19, 26 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Support, the kingdom of Great Britain didn't exist yet in 1570. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:49, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Support -- There was no polity of GB in 1570; certainly not before the union of the Crowns in 1603 and by WP convention, not before Parliamentary Union in 1707. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:18, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Law firms established in 1570

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feel free to open a new nomination for a wider merge, without delay. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:22, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: No action. There is consensus for a general upmerge of law firms established before 1800, but no action can be taken here because the other categories involved have been neither listed nor tagged.


 * Propose deleting law firms established in 1570


 * Nominator's rationale: Overly-specific; will never become populated. — swpb T 14:16, 26 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Oppose. There is a whole scheme of Law firms by year of establishment. This one should not be singled out separately. --Richhoncho (talk) 18:01, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment. While I agree with the procedural oppose, I think the whole tree is overly specific. After 1800, decade categories should be sufficient, and before 1800 we can have one category . Marcocapelle (talk) 09:52, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Move/merge to Category:Law firms established before 1800. The current category is overly specific and is unlikely to have more than one entry that's there currently. K.e.coffman (talk) 17:00, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Support Category:Law firms established before 1800. There are about 6 more to merge in, all 18th century.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:22, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


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