Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 July 28



Category:Canadian border cities

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 * The result of the discussion was:  at Categories for discussion/Log/2017 September 3.  ℯ  xplicit  04:33, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Canadian border cities to Category:Canadian border communities
 * Nominator's rationale: This results from some duplication cleanup; some of the places filed here were sitting in both this and simultaneously, while some others were sitting in only one category or the other -- and the city vs. town distinction is not what was making the difference, as some towns were sitting in this category and some cities were not. To the extent that this actually constitutes a WP:DEFINING characteristic for the purposes of categorization at all, however, all Canadian communities that fit the criteria of being located on the border should be filed together, not just a random partial subset of them. That said, there is some arbitrariness being applied here, in that not every place that was sitting in either category is actually located on the border (some are located within what's described as "walking distance" from the border, with "walking distance" extending up to 30 km in some instances), and even some of the ones that are located on the border are not defined by the fact as there's no border crossing facility located there. So some purging may also be necessary here — but at the very least, there's no defining reason to segregate "cities" from "towns" in this context, especially given that a city vs. town segregation isn't even the way the categories were actually being used. Bearcat (talk) 23:24, 28 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment I think I would have a preference for Category:Canadian border settlements; but as I live across the pond I may be misunderstanding the term community. Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:59, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * "Settlements" would be fine too, if that's what consensus would prefer — there's no Canadian-specific reason why it has to be "communities" per se, it's just that I had to pick a word that encompassed both towns and cities and that happens to be the first one that came to mind. Bearcat (talk) 15:57, 29 July 2017 (UTC)


 * comment The standard term used in WP for local population centers is 'populated places' which could/should be used here also. Hmains (talk) 16:09, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT as pointed out by nominator. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:10, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Populated places along the border of Canada. Populated places is the generally used term in Wikipedia, we avoid settlements because of various political connotations of the word.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:08, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Space theorists

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Insofar applicable I have added articles of this category to the tree of Category:Astrophysicists‎. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting space theorists


 * Nominator's rationale: Does not follow general conventions - words and phrases does not exist in reliable sources/no such thing as a "Space theorists". Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 16:52, 28 July 2017 (UTC)


 * delete What is a space theorist? Mangoe (talk) 02:10, 31 July 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Songs mastered by Shadab Rayeen

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted, see here (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 11:21, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting songs mastered by shadab rayeen


 * Nominator's rationale: Doesn't fit with existing cat scheme of artists/producers, and doesn't seem likely to attract any more members. — swpb T 16:26, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Creator's rationale: Shadab Rayeen is a mixing and mastering engineer, mixes and masters a major junk of Bollywood music after Eric Pillai, Category will is likely to attract many users in future Anoptimistix   Let's Talk  02:01, 29 July 2017 (UTC)


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Category:People from the Brong Ahafo Region

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy merge WP:C2D. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:31, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from the Brong Ahafo Region to Category:People from Brong-Ahafo Region
 * Nominator's rationale: Unintended duplicate of an already existing page. Cross Temple   Jay  14:45, 28 July 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Adobe Churches of New Mexico

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting adobe churches of new mexico


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT - unclear that there are, or will be in the future, any other articles for this category. — swpb T 14:44, 28 July 2017 (UTC)


 * impossible to discuss No articles currently reside in this category. Hmains (talk) 22:57, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: the original member page added by the category creator was San José de Gracia Church, which was removed by the nominator. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:10, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * keep, populate, rename? A look into Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in New Mexico shows that maybe half of the membership consists of adobe buildings. It might be a good idea to model this on the corresponding California categories, but there's no justification for outright deletion. Mangoe (talk) 02:21, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I've populated this category; it has ~10 members. Mangoe (talk) 20:54, 31 July 2017 (UTC)


 * keep part of category of adobe buildings which needs to be expanded. Hmains (talk) 03:02, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Military Order of William

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Participants agree that the article should be renamed first in order for this category to follow through.  ℯ  xplicit  04:33, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Military William Order to Category:Military Order of William
 * Nominator's rationale: Official name in English, the whole tree should probably be renamed. See this Ministry of Defense article as reference. effeietsanders 14:05, 28 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment, it is better to have the article Military William Order renamed first, and afterwards have the category speedily renamed per WP:C2D. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:22, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Wrong Venue Agree with Marcocapelle, above. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:57, 26 August 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Information Services

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting information services


 * Nominator's rationale: Unclear scope or necessity, and only one member, which is currently PROD'ed. — swpb T 14:07, 28 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. There were three members. I moved Financial Services Information Sharing and Analysis Center to Category:Financial services organizations since that is more specific in concept and well-populated with similar organizations, and removed Hiri (email client) from it because it is not an "information service". And I PRODed Minimum Security Requirements for Federal Information and Information Systems, as nom mentioned. That leaves...no members and no clear scope. DMacks (talk) 21:53, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


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Category:7th millennium BC in Greece

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ℯ  xplicit  04:33, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting 7th millennium bc in greece


 * Propose deleting 6th millennium bc in greece


 * Propose deleting 5th millennium bc in greece


 * Propose deleting 4th millennium bc in greece


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, their only content is Category:Neolithic Greece which hasn't been diffused by millennium. In addition we don't have millennium categories as early as this for any other countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:30, 28 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - grossly anachronistic. There was no Hellenic Republic back then and not even the Kingdom of Greece or anything close to it.GreyShark (dibra) 14:17, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Cat-redirect to Category:Neolithic Greece, except 4th mill. which should be a dab-category for Category:Neolithic Greece and Category:Bronze Age Greece. Though there was (probably) no political unity and the northern boundary may be debatable, the geographic concept of Greece is well-known. I frequently support the removal of anachronistic categories, but we cannot do better than "Greece" here.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:44, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirecting to Neolithic Greece and Bronze Age Greece is a good idea.GreyShark (dibra) 12:10, 17 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete without redirecting, and then delete parents Category:7th millennium BC by country to Category:4th millennium BC by country as empty. There are no other country categories before 3rd millennium, see Category:Millennia by country. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Agree that redirecting is useless in this case. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 31 July 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Agreements of the European Union with third countries

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge and delete as nominated.  ℯ  xplicit  04:33, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Agreements of the European Union with third countries to Category:Agreements and Category:Treaties and declarations of the European Union Category:Treaties entered into by the European Union
 * Propose deleting Category:Agreements concluded by intergovernmental organizations
 * Propose deleting Category:Agreements by organization
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, there is no need to have three category layers for two articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:04, 28 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge the first to Category:Treaties entered into by the European Union which appears to be much the same thing. As is becoming apparent over UK's Brexit, EU behaves like a sovereign state on behalf of its members and associates collectively negotiates external trade agreements, the rest of which are in my target.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:55, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that is an even better merge target indeed. I have adapted the nomination accordingly. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:22, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


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