Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 June 3



Category:Gateway Ancestors to the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ℯ  xplicit  01:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting gateway ancestors to the united states


 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. Category appears to be single-sourced to an arbitrary list in a non-notable book by pop genealogist Gary Boyd Roberts. No evidence of WP:COI, but the effect is category spam: it promotes Gateway Ancestors (non-notable as book or as concept) on each bio page. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2017 (UTC) revised 20:04, 3 June 2017 (UTC), revised 13:46, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete – effectively unsourced as the list is not provided anywhere, and not mentioned in the articles. I have no idea what a Gateway ancestor might be. Oculi (talk) 00:32, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- a Gateway ancestor is a person whose ancestry is known. If a genealogy is linked to that person, it leads to the discovery of a large number of other ancestors.  A typical case is linking back to a member of the older British peerage, which leads one back to other lords and perhaps even to royal ancestors.  In some countries there will be 1000s of such people, but being one will be a NN characteristic.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:52, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete – per Oculi's logic, extremely vague and since "gateway ancestor" has no clear cut definition this category is rather unneeded. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 22:29, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland", 4th class

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ℯ  xplicit  01:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting recipients of the order "for merit to the fatherland", 4th class


 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining, 4th tier decoration for meritorious service. Fails WP:CATDEF & WP:OCAWARD. K.e.coffman (talk) 18:00, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. -- Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  14:58, 5 June 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Order for Service to the Homeland in the Armed Forces of the USSR, 3rd class

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ℯ  xplicit  01:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting recipients of the order for service to the homeland in the armed forces of the ussr, 3rd class


 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining, 3rd tier decoration for meritorious service. Fails WP:CATDEF & WP:OCAWARD. K.e.coffman (talk) 17:57, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  15:02, 5 June 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Order of the Red Star

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ℯ  xplicit  01:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting recipients of the order of the red star


 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category: none of the recipients are known for having received this decoration. Too common to be defining: over 3 million have been awarded. Fails WP:CATDEF & WP:OCAWARD. K.e.coffman (talk) 17:54, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  15:02, 5 June 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Adventure Outdoor Education

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 19:21, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting adventure outdoor education


 * Nominator's rationale: Serves no use. Created by promotional account to list his own company.  Y intan  17:46, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- spam. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:52, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Spam. Empty now that the user's promotional article had been deleted. User has been indeffed. Meters (talk) 03:15, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete as empty: presumably it formerly had an ADVERT in it. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:36, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Thinking about climbing

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 19:22, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting thinking about climbing


 * Nominator's rationale: Serves no use. Created by promotional account to list his own company.  Y intan  17:46, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- spam. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:52, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Spam. Empty now that the user's promotional article had been deleted. User has been indeffed. Meters (talk) 03:16, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete as empty: presumably it formerly had an ADVERT in it. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:37, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per above as well as the fact that the category is currently empty. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 22:30, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Public Establishment of Television

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ℯ  xplicit  01:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting public establishment of television


 * Propose deleting Category:Public Establishment of Television shows - added 11 June
 * Nominator's rationale: Recently created category with no obvious criteria for inclusion. However, it appears that the category only contains programs that have appeared on Algerian "Public establishment of television" network. Based on other TV articles, this would be better served by a navbox than a category.  Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 16:42, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete (possibly after distributing contents. As far as I can make out from the article, this is the National TV broadcasting monopoly in Algeria.  I would not object to an Algerian TV category or one for each channel, but I do not think this one will do.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:27, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment and question just one hour after starting this nomination, a subcategory has been created by User:Boumediene15. Should this subcategory also be nominated, or not? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:44, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't see the subcat. Had I done so I would have added it to the nomination. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 05:01, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You couldn't have seen it, while you were nominating it didn't exist yet. I've added it to the nomination now. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:10, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Unchanged - the same considerations apply to the subcat. Peterkingiron (talk) 20:02, 12 June 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Skop Productions contract players

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 06:00, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting skop productions contract players


 * Propose deleting skop productions added upon relisting
 * Nominator's rationale: No scheme of contract players by studio. Studio doesn't even have article. Questionable defining aspect. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 05:28, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Added parent category to the nomination. If Category:Skop Productions contract players should be deleted, the parent category becomes redundant as well. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 13:19, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete both as spam, created for promotional purposes. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:54, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete unless Skop Productions is created before closure. The "contract players" appears to be a WP:PERF category, which is not allowed.  The name is anyway inaccurate, as it should be "contract actors".  Without a main article, I have to assume that this is a NN company.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:31, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Future Railway Stations in Israel

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  ℯ  xplicit  01:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Future Railway Stations in Israel to Category:Proposed railway stations in Israel
 * Nominator's rationale: Duplicate cats Le Deluge (talk) 11:30, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Canon of Amsterdam

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ℯ  xplicit  01:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting canon of amsterdam


 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:NONDEF, also we don't even have an article about a Canon of Amsterdam. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:22, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I thought this had been nominated a few days ago, but perhaps that was the article (and maybe it was then deleted). It seemed to be an author's selection of 50 landmarks or events in the city.  The selection was a POV issue of that author.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:34, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You're right about the article, see the discussion. I guess this counts as supporting the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:13, 5 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Military equipment of the Netherlands, there being no Category:Forts in Amsterdam or related lower categories. :-) Seriously, delete; what's the point of a category for a specific topic on which we have no article?  We don't need articles for all categories, especially for categories that are merely logical subdivisions of another broader topic (e.g. "Cannons of Amsterdam" if we had tons of articles about Dutch artillery, and we needed to split them up by municipality), but as none of the topics at Canon are intimately tied to Amsterdam, we don't even have a way to know what "Canon of Amsterdam" means.  Nyttend (talk) 02:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Canon of Dutch Literature and Canon of Dutch History are probably the most related articles in terms of canon, but they don't make the impression of a high quality article either. The literature article is six years old and contains a list that is only half-finished. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Science writers of medieval Islam

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 * The result of the discussion was:  at Categories for discussion/Log/2017 June 14.  ℯ  xplicit  01:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Science writers of medieval Islam to Category:Scientists of medieval Islam
 * Nominator's rationale: Only the scientists who wrote became notable. so we don't need two categories. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:26, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Rename to "Scientific scholars of medieval Islam". As far as I see, the two articles in it are both about people who mostly wrote things; one of whom was in charge of a library. Compare them to someone like Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi, and they would fit the definition of scholars much more than scientists in and of themselves. -- Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  15:05, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Medieval Muslim writers, in agreement with Fayenatic london about merging as such, in agreement with Iazyges that scientists may not be the best category to merge to. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:02, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Companies formerly listed on the Amsterdam Stock Exchange

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 * The result of the discussion was:  at Categories for discussion/Log/2017 June 14.  ℯ  xplicit  01:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting companies formerly listed on the amsterdam stock exchange


 * Nominator's rationale: this is a very unusual category because it does not contain companies that were delisted, but instead the Amsterdam Stock Exchange itself has become a former institute as it merged into Euronext. I don't think that companies should be categorized by this. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * REname Category:Companies listed on the Amsterdam Stock Exchange before 2000. 2000 is the merger date, when ASE became part of Euronext.  2000 is thus not a random date.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:57, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Is that really a defining characteristic of these companies? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:04, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


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