Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 November 17



Category:Clergy by war

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at Categories for discussion/Log/2018 January 9. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:32, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting clergy by war


 * Propose merging Category:Clergy in World War II to Category:20th-century clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Clergy in the American Revolution to Category:18th-century clergy
 * Nominator's rationale: Following on to the discussions at Clergy in World War I and Clergy in the American Civil War, this leaves Category:Clergy by war half-depopulated and an unnecessary container category. These propose a cleanup of the remainder of its contents. The last of these may require additional upmerge targets, possibly. The Bushranger One ping only 23:55, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Support. For all American clergy serving during the American Revolution and for all European clergy serving during WWII, the respective wars almost inevitably must have played a role in their life and in their profession, so the wars are not a good characteristic to subdivide clerics. Note: it may be advisable to merge manually, since a number of the articles in these categories are already in a subcategory of Category:20th-century clergy or Category:18th-century clergy. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:41, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose -- The WWII category has a sub-cat with 200 chaplains in it. That needs to be split, probably by combatant.  American Revolution one is well-populated, so that I do not see why we need to do anything with it.  Clergy by war is a container.  Whehter we need it depends on what other categories we have.  I note there is a military chaplains by war, with a lot of sub-cats: could we downmerge some of the rest (probably manually)?  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:28, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Do not disperse the chaplain sub-cat of World War II cat That category only has 191 entries. Dispersing it at present would lead to way too many small categories. It works well as a unified category at present.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:12, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Dispersing the chaplain subcat is not part of the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:29, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


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Category:International film festivals

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at Categories for discussion/Log/2018 January 9. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:50, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:International film festivals to Category:?
 * Nominator's rationale: Category that's routinely misused because its actual purpose is misunderstood. As I noted in the subcategory batch below, the vast majority of film festivals that exist at all are "international" in the sense of exhibiting films from multiple countries rather than restricting themselves exclusively to just one country's cinema -- so the festivals aren't defined by the fact of doing exactly what most film festivals do. What this category was meant for, rather, was the small number of film festivals that are staged internationally, such as by moving around to different countries every year or by being held in two or more countries simultaneously (e.g. in two adjacent border cities). So the category needs to be either renamed to make its purpose less ambiguous and purged of entries that are "international" in the wrong sense of the term, or just deleted as too much trouble. Bearcat (talk) 22:55, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Leaning towards delete, as a not sufficiently defining characteristic. If renamed it should become something like Category:Film festivals held in multiple countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:57, 19 November 2017 (UTC)


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Category:International film festivals by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: Selectively merge. Pinging to do the selective merge. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:58, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting international film festivals by country


 * Propose deleting international film festivals in canada


 * Propose deleting international film festivals in the czech republic


 * Propose deleting international film festivals in france


 * Propose deleting international film festivals in germany


 * Propose deleting international film festivals in india


 * Propose deleting international film festivals in italy


 * Propose deleting international film festivals in japan


 * Propose deleting international film festivals in poland


 * Propose deleting international film festivals in russia


 * Propose deleting international film festivals in slovakia


 * Propose deleting international film festivals in the united states


 * Nominator's rationale: Category tree that misconstrues the intentions of the parent . The vast majority of all film festivals that exist at all are "international" in the sense of exhibiting films from multiple countries rather than just one -- although film festivals that focus exclusively on one country's national cinema do exist, they're the minority rather than the norm -- so film festivals aren't defined by the fact of doing exactly what most film festivals do. What the category was meant to contain was the relatively small number of film festivals that couldn't be categorized by nationality because they're held in more than one country -- e.g. by moving around to a different country every year, or by being jointly staged in two or more different countries simultaneously. That is, the category was supposed to be for the internationalness of the festival's location, not the internationalness of a single-location festival's programming. Parent category also needs to be purged, but that will be listed for discussion separately. Bearcat (talk) 22:32, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment What about upmerging them into their parent category? For example, Category:International film festivals in France merged to Category:Film festivals in France?  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 09:25, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Many of them are already there (or in a subcategory at the state or province level in the case of Canada and the US), so this wouldn't need to be done comprehensively, but there would certainly need to be some caution taken to ensure that any festival that isn't in any "Film festivals in (Location)" category was readded to one. Bearcat (talk) 15:20, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Selectively merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:59, 19 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Film festivals in Canada, etc. I believe branding them as "international" is merely to give them a higher profile.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:31, 19 November 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Crimes against men

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete in its current form. This closure is without prejudice against the re-creation of this category with a well-defined and narrow focus, keeping in mind what has been said below. If it is recreated and that cannot be maintained, we may well end up here in the future. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:06, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting crimes against men


 * Nominator's rationale: Whoa. What is this? It's just a random collection of men who have had something happen to them and things like war. This either needs to be deleted or have some very narrow scope and focus... ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:30, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, this category is just to complete the matching categories for Category:Crimes against Women, Category:Violence against women, and Category:Violence against men.


 * There are also articles for Violence against women and Violence against men.


 * Propose keeping the category to match the respective women's and men's articles, and other categories.


 * Thanks! Best, PolarYukon (talk) 22:37, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Every gender category that exists for a topic that's specific to women does not necessarily have to be balanced directly against an equivalent for men. Violence against women is a thing that happens to women because they're women, and does not include every incident that happens to have some female victims — for example, the bombing of a city in war is not "violence against women" just because some of the casualties happened to be women, but would only be "violence against women" if the fact that they were women was itself the reason for the bombing. For this to be justified, similarly, what would need to be demonstrated is not that there have been violent incidents with male victims, but that there have been violent incidents against men specifically because they were men — and there are very few things that could actually demonstrate that at all. Bearcat (talk) 00:24, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments, but I must respectfully disagree. There are many published legal decisions and studies of crimes against men. There are valid cases of both "crimes against women" and "crimes against men". When you have some time, please take a look at these articles as a starting point: SCUM Manifesto, Valerie Solanas, Forced circumcision and Violence against men.
 * Please consider also the following examples: if the majority of rape victims are women, is rape a "crime against women"? If the majority of war crimes victims are men, are "war crimes" also "crimes against men"?
 * Also in the discussion of examples, since "crimes against men" are under-reported, or mis-portrayed with respect to their gender-violence aspect, there is limited awareness off this in certain cultures or social groups. A Wikipedia article says: In 2012, a UNHCR report stated that "SGBV (sexual and gender based violence) against men and boys has generally been mentioned as a footnote in reports". Violence against men - sexual violence. Also in the UNHCR link,  "Rape is not limited to traditional notions, it is not limited to gender . . . we must recognize rape as torture, rape as rape.". "There are no detailed statistics on the number of male victims of SGBV but, the phenomenon is increasingly being recognized as a protection concern in conflict and forced displacement situations. "
 * While there are various viewpoints on prevalence and social bias, neither sex is immune from gender-based or gender-influenced crime. If you have any reliable documentation to the contrary, I would be happy to read it. We could certainly delete both the "crimes against women" and "crimes against men" categories. In any case, our final agreement here should be gender-neutral.
 * Best, PolarYukon (talk) 14:23, 18 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. This category is absurd: someone saw there was a "crimes against women" category and decided to create a "crimes against men" category without even so much as looking what was in the women one. The women category mainly contains broad pages about crimes (rather than than individual acts of crimes), apart from a couple of famous murders that are arguably miscategorised. The author of this category has then gone and randomly started mass-adding male murder victims to this category, including every male politician who was ever assassinated as a "crime against men". The implication that JFK was killed because he was male is one of the craziest things I've ever read on Wikipedia. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 11:59, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Biographies, which make up most of the category, are not articles about crimes. Move the articles to the relevant subcategories of Category:Crime victims. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 16:08, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, this is a hodgepodge of crimes for all kinds of reasons. There are some articles in the category about men-related crimes in this category, e.g. crimes with male gay victims and articles about circumcision, but these should be and are specifically categorized as such (see Category:Circumcision and Category:Victims of anti-LGBT hate crimes). Marcocapelle (talk) 15:07, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Specific categories are, generally, subcategories of more general categories. Apokrif (talk) 21:35, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * In this case I foresee that a more general category will be lacking a sufficient amount of content. But I'm prepared to wait and see what heavily purging (as proposed below) will bring us. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:44, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Heavily purge/split -- We have a hotchpotch of murdered men; crimes that can only be committed against men (because of their sexual nature); and notorious criminals guilty of such crimes. Assassinated presidents probably have a more specific category already.  Mixing criminals and their crimes is not good CAT-practice.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:37, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete or heavily purge and add text explaining criteria for pages to be in the category. These categories (including the violence and women categories) should not contain articles about specific crimes/people as these are already well categorized (by type, year etc) and such categorization could lead to the articles being placed in categories such as crimes-against-English-speaking-people, crimes-against-college-graduates, crimes-against-married-people etc.  No article should be in both a crimes-against-men category and a crimes-against-women category (if the article isn't specifically about men/women then it shouldn't be placed in a gendered category). DexDor(talk) 10:16, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - This is an absurd category. There is no reason to organize crimes by the gender of the victim. Next we'll have Crimes against Asians, Crimes against teenagers, and Crimes against LGBT playwrites from New Jersey. Kaldari (talk) 03:15, 5 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Purge and Keep - There are crimes which fit into this category. As DexDor said, These categories (including the violence and women categories) should not contain articles about specific crimes/people as these are already well categorized. But there are many articles which would fit into both categories. AG 47   Talk 14:30, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Bethany Hamilton

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 11:29, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting bethany hamilton


 * Nominator's rationale: Does not merit her own category Rathfelder (talk) 20:40, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Can link relevant articles with other methods. PolarYukon (talk) 12:44, 18 November 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Treatment of sleep disorders

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:57, 13 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Treatment of sleep disorders to Category:Sleep medicine‎
 * Nominator's rationale: An unhelpful subcategory Rathfelder (talk) 20:01, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Oppose IMHO a subcategory devoted to treatments is useful: Category:Sleep medicine is very general category (about journals, organizations, disorders...) in which there are already subcategories. Apokrif (talk) 21:57, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose, I can't see that there is anything wrong with this category, it is a proper subcat of Category:Medical treatments. The only question that I have is whether article California v. Murray belongs in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:52, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose -- Sleep medicine has a sub-article (linked by a main template) Sleep disorders. It may be that the subject needs to be renamed (or, since it exists, merged) to Category:Sleep disorders.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:43, 19 November 2017 (UTC)


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Category:LGBT theatre in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:50, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:LGBT theatre in the United States to Category:LGBT theater in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: While I've noticed that many U.S. stage theater groups use British English in their names (is it because they are trying to imitate Britain?), just as many use American English. I think it should be renamed to reflect the ties to the U.S. and the tendency of American categories to receive more American attention. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 07:19, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep – it is the intersection of Category:Theatre in the United States with Category:LGBT theatre and it would be perverse to depart from both spellings. Oculi (talk) 10:24, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose, see discussion further down this page. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:27, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Theatre festivals in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:50, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Theatre festivals in the United States to Category:Theater festivals in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: While many members of this category are unusually fond of British English, it is usually explainable (Acting Irish International Theatre Festival rotates locations between the US and Canada, and since they invite Irish theater companies and all nations' companies perform Irish theater; Indianapolis Theatre Fringe Festival was inspired by the Edinburgh original), though I admit some others are less clear. However, just as many use American English. Furthermore, since many readers that will click on these kinds of categories will be more familiar with American English, and since the categories have ties to the U.S., I ask that it be renamed. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 07:17, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep – per Category:Theatre in the United States and Category:Theatre festivals in North America. Moreover 10 of the articles use 'theatre' and 9 use 'theater' so there is no evidence that 'theatre' is unfamiliar to Americans. Oculi (talk) 10:21, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose, see discussion further down this page. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:27, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


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Organisations based in South Korea

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:34, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming: Category:Organisations based in South Korea to Category:Organizations based in South Korea


 * Propose renaming: Category:Organisations based in South Korea by city to Category:Organizations based in South Korea by city
 * Propose renaming: Category:Organisations based in Busan to Category:Organizations based in Busan
 * Propose renaming: Category:Organisations based in Daegu‎ to Category:Organizations based in Daegu‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Organisations based in Daejeon‎ to Category:Organizations based in Daejeon‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Organisations based in Gwangju‎‎ to Category:Organizations based in Gwangju‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Organisations based in Incheon‎ to Category:Organizations based in Incheon
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Organisations based in Seoul‎ to Category:Organizations based in Seoul‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Organisations based in Suwon‎ to Category:Organizations based in Suwon‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Organisations based in Ulsan‎ to Category:Organizations based in Ulsan‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Organisations based in South Korea by province‎ to Category:Organizations based in South Korea by province
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Organisations based in Gyeonggi Province‎ to Category:Organizations based in Gyeonggi Province‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Organisations based in North Gyeongsang Province‎‎ to Category:Organizations based in North Gyeongsang Province‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Organisations based in South Chungcheong Province‎‎ to Category:Organizations based in South Chungcheong Province‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Organisations based in South Gyeongsang Province‎‎ to Category:Organizations based in South Gyeongsang Province‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Organisations based in South Korea by subject‎ to Category:Organizations based in South Korea by subject
 * Propose renaming: Category:Animal welfare organisations based in South Korea‎‎ to Category:Animal welfare organizations based in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Business organisations based in South Korea‎‎ to Category:Business organizations based in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Cultural organisations in South Korea‎‎ to Category:Cultural organizations in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Film organisations in South Korea‎ to Category:Film organizations in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Disability organisations baseed in South Korea‎ to Category:Disability organizations based in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Environmental organisations based in South Korea‎‎ to Category:Environmental organizations based in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Human rights organisations based in South Korea‎ to Category:Human rights organizations based in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎International organisations based in South Korea‎ to Category:International organizations based in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Legal organisations based in South Korea‎ to Category:Legal organizations based in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:LGBT organisations in South Korea‎ to Category:LGBT organizations in South Korea
 * Propose renaming: Category:Non-profit organisations based in South Korea‎‎ to Category:Non-profit organizations based in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Political organisations in South Korea‎ to Category:Political organizations in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Religious organisations based in South Korea‎‎ to Category:Religious organizations based in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Scientific organisations in South Korea‎ to Category:Scientific organizations in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Sports organisations of South Korea‎‎ to Category:Sports organizations of South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Football organisations in South Korea‎‎ to Category:Football organizations in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Student organisations in South Korea‎ to Category:Student organizations in South Korea
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Women's organisations based in South Korea‎ to Category:Women's organizations based in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Youth organisations based in South Korea‎‎ to Category:Youth organizations based in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Lists of organisations based in South Korea‎ to Category:Lists of organizations based in South Korea
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Defunct organisations based in South Korea to Category:Defunct organizations based in South Korea
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Transport organisations based in South Korea to Category:Transport organizations based in South Korea
 * Propose renaming: Category:‎Aviation organisations based in South Korea‎ to Category:Aviation organizations based in South Korea‎
 * Propose renaming: Category:Wikipedia categories named after organisations based in South Korea‎ to Category:Wikipedia categories named after organizations based in South Korea


 * Nominator's rationale: These categories relating to South Korea are using British English spelling, but the country is dominated by American English due to the influence the United States had for its involvement in the Korean War . I live in South Korea, and can attest that American English spelling, date format, and pronunciation is not only preferred, but also demanded from English teachers even from countries where non-American English is used (like Australia, Ireland, South Africa, etc). The categories should naturally follow that standard. (Category:‎Disability organisations baseed in South Korea‎ also happens to contain a spelling error as a result of a previous CFD which needs correcting.) ℯ  xplicit  07:16, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Is there a standard US / UK spelling agreed for the country article on South Korea? Thanks! PolarYukon (talk) 14:38, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The article on South Korea uses American English. ℯ  xplicit  01:07, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note that British Oxford English also uses the spelling "organization" even if "organisation" is more common in the UK. Greenshed (talk) 03:09, 23 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Support renaming to American English in Korea. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:16, 30 November 2017 (UTC)


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Category:American theatre people

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:50, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:American theatre people to Category:American theater people
 * Nominator's rationale: The United States tends to spell the word associated with a stage performance: "theater". &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 07:09, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep – per Category:Theatre in the United States and all but one of its subcats. Oculi (talk) 10:07, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose, see discussion below. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:26, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Theatre in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:50, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Theatre in the United States to Category:Theater in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: This category must be renamed to match how "theater" would be spelled in the United States. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 06:42, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Oppose – this has been at cfd many times (to which the nom should refer, rather than using 'must'). The most recent one was in Dec 2016. Oculi (talk) 10:04, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose, there should be one nomination with all subcats included, not a few scattered nominations. This is important especially because the outcome of the discussion is far from obvious (= based on all previous discussions). If the discussions are separated there is a good chance that they will be closed with different outcomes - which would be the worst possible result. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:25, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose – This has been discussed before, and that should have been mentioned in the nomination. As for usage, the spelling of almost all theatres in the US gives a clue. It's simple: the craft & the profession is called "theater", the genre and most buildings are called "theatre". -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 23:35, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I've just noticed that the distinction was expressed the opposite way at Talk:Theater of the United States, where I have just raised a Requested Move. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:54, 13 December 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Artworks depicting Old Testament figures

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at Categories for discussion/Log/2018 January 9. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:18, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Artworks depicting Old Testament figures to Category:Art depicting Old Testament figures - Note: the target is in speedy rename process to Category:Art depicting Old Testament people
 * Propose merging Category:Artworks depicting New Testament figures to Category:Art depicting New Testament figures - Note: the target is in speedy rename process to Category:Art depicting New Testament people
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge as a redudant container category layer with only two subcategories. A merge to the other parent Category:Biblical art by medium is unneeded, the content is in there already, in another subcat of it. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:29, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Rename to e.g. Category:Works based on the New Testament, which would then encompass Category:Films based on the New Testament and more from the hierarchy Category:Works based on the Bible, e.g. musicals & novels. Renaming rather than deleting means that the contents can be easily found within e.g. Category:New Testament, not only being buried deep within Category:New Testament people. But thank you for the nomination – something needed to be done here. – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:12, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Nice suggestion! Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 20 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Rename per Fayenatic london's suggestion. Wider scope and chances for expansion. Dimadick (talk) 08:20, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge in some way. The main point is there is no definable difference in these two categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:15, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Johnpacklambert please explain why you oppose my alternative, as it was supported by all other participants. Category:Works based on the Old Testament and Category:Works based on the New Testament clearly have a wider scope than Category:Art depicting Old Testament people etc. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:40, 13 December 2017 (UTC)


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