Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 October 13



Category:Ierissos

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ierissos


 * Nominator's rationale: Category for a small town, containing only the one page about the town.  DGG ( talk ) 18:28, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete -- no need to merge as article is already in the parent. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:12, 15 October 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Knights Templar in modern culture

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted, see here. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:37, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Knights Templar in modern culture to Category:Cultural depictions of the Knights Templar
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename, and move Category:Self-styled orders from being a sub-category up into Category:Knights Templar. The proposed name would fit well within Category:Cultural depictions of people. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:40, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Support as there is no official KT now. RevelationDirect (talk) 23:12, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Split -- I removed an article about a historical person Ralph de Sudeley who happened appear in a novel. The rest are a mixture of mixture of Freemasony, a few novels about KT, and one or two articles for other Category:Self-styled orders, which need to be down-moved to that.  Peterkingiron (talk) 22:59, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Alt. rename to Category:Knights Templar in popular culture per the main article (Knights Templar in popular culture), or to Category:Knights Templar in fiction (and make a subcategory of Category:Organizations in fiction). -- Black Falcon (talk) 21:56, 21 October 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Church music schools in Germany

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge and delete as nominated.  ℯ  xplicit  06:12, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * propose merging Category:Church music schools in Germany to Category:Church music in Germany, Category:Music schools in Germany, and Category:Christian schools in Germany
 * propose deleting Category:Church music schools
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, only two articles across the world. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:21, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The first target, Category:Church music in Germany, has been nominated for renaming in the discussion right below. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:24, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 *  Full Upmerge for German items. Not enough content.  I suspect that if we looked we might find a few more schools of Church music worldwide.  Populate Category:Church music schools: Royal School of Church Music ought to appear and I suspect there will be a few more worldwide.  Peterkingiron (talk) 23:09, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Royal School of Church Music does not appear to be a school, but rather an organisation promoting church music through publications, training courses and an award scheme. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:32, 16 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Upmerge Category:Church music schools in Germany and delete Category:Church music schools, per nom. I located a few other articles about educational institutions that offer church music degrees as one of many degree programs, and therefore probably could not be appropriately characterized as "church music schools": Ersta Sköndal Bräcke University College, Norwegian Academy of Music, Piedmont University, Portland Bible College, University of Greifswald, University of the Arts Bremen and University of the Arts Helsinki. -- Black Falcon (talk) 21:52, 21 October 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Church music in Germany

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 * The result of the discussion was:  at Categories for discussion/Log/2017 November 2.  ℯ  xplicit  06:12, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Church music in Germany to Category:Church music from Germany
 * Propose renaming Category:Church music in the United Kingdom to Category:Church music from the United Kingdom
 * Propose renaming Category:Church music in the United States to Category:Church music from the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: rename to clarify the scope of the categories. While the music in these categories comes from a certain country, it may well be performed in other countries, so it doesn't need to stay in the original country. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:32, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Oppose currently matches the lead topic Church music in Germany and is a natural naming convention for a topic category. Tim! (talk) 09:08, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose The present names are a better reflection of content than what is proposed. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:23, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Tim!. The current name (and lead subject title) is more reflecting of the topic and has many precedents; in fact, so many I can't even count them. ToThAc (talk) 17:53, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Alt. rename to [X]ian church music per Category names, and to align with Category:German music, Category:British music and Category:American music. We should not be too concerned with the name of the head article, since an overriding standard applies to music categories (e.g. Music of Germany is in Category:German music). -- Black Falcon (talk) 21:41, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * (as nom) Support this alternative. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 28 October 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Organ scholars

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:11, 21 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting organ scholars


 * Nominator's rationale: This is a category I created over 10 years ago. However, noticing it again recently, I think I was wrong to do so. These organists are not notable for being organ scholars, they are notable for what they did after being organ scholars (in most cases, professional organists / composers etc, although ex-British Prime Minister Edward Heath gets in there, as does the actor/comedian Dudley Moore). We don't have categories for "apprentices" more generally, after all. BencherliteTalk 15:10, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:34, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I've tagged for speedy deletion per G7. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 19:12, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I removed the speedy tag, because I think someone needs to officially close this, and then Cydebot can go thru and depopulate the category prior to deletion. Right?  If I'm confused, someone ping me, but somebody has to remove that category from 74 articles, and that sounds like work for a bot.  What you really need, I think, is someone who is familiar with CFD to speedy close this discussion. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:27, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * So if deleted via speedy, no bot would remove the category from the pages that have it? Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 23:06, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * That is my understanding, yes. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:16, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * It's both being done by a bot, but the convention is that once a category has been nominated here, it is no longer eligible for speedy deletion via a different route. On the other hand the discussion here can be speedily closed by an admin if there is a speedy criterion involved. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:30, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, here's an AFD where G7 was applied to a page whose deletion discussion was in progress and it got speedy deleted successfully, but maybe it's different for CFD. I don't know. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 04:56, 21 October 2017 (UTC)


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