Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 September 10



Category:Soccer clubs in Shreveport, Louisiana

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 * The result of the discussion was: dual upmerge (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:42, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Soccer clubs in Shreveport, Louisiana to Category:Soccer clubs in Louisiana
 * Nominator's rationale: Small category (1 article) unlikely to grow. Dual merge to Sports teams in Shreveport, Louisiana as well. TM 21:56, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete/Upmerge No need for the granularity by city. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:31, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Dual Upmerge to Category:Sports teams in Shreveport, Louisiana. One article doesn't aid navigation. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:49, 13 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Ice hockey teams in Shreveport, Louisiana

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 * The result of the discussion was: dual upmerge (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Ice hockey teams in Shreveport, Louisiana to Category:Ice hockey teams in Louisiana
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual merge to as well. Small category unlikely to grow. TM 21:49, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Dual Upmerge With no objection to recreating if it ever gets up to 5 or so articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:50, 13 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Wrestling venues in the United States by city

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete the New Orleans categories, as it is not necessary to categorize multi-purpose venues by each sport they host(ed). I am not upmerging to '[X] in Louisiana' since that would still be overcategorization of venues by event. No action on Category:Wrestling venues in the United States by city (without prejudice to renominating), since that category now contains 4 other subcategories that are not nominated. -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:52, 30 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting wrestling venues in the united states by city


 * Nominator's rationale: No need for this level of granularity--by state is enough.
 * Subcategories: Category:Wrestling venues in New Orleans and Category:Professional wrestling venues in New Orleans can be upmerged to [x] in Louisiana. ―Justin ( koa'vf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:24, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Wow. There are enough venues in both Category:Wrestling venues in New Orleans and Category:Professional wrestling venues in New Orleans to keep them. There are also other cities in the U.S. with these categories that could fit under Category:Wrestling venues in the United States by city. I added cities to have five categories under Wrestling venues by city. This doesn't include many major U.S. cities, which could be easily be added. Took about an hour to do rather than deleting. Please lets not level/destroy categories when they have enough content under them or content is available and can be easily added. Spatms (talk) 21:33, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - the usual guideline of "unlikely to grow" is a relevant one in many of the categories you've posted today, Justin. It's easy to expand the categories, which is surely more sensible than deleting them when they fit into wider schemes such as "sports by state" or "sports by city". Grutness...wha?  00:38, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Reluctant Keep/Support in Principle Categorizing multipurpose arenas that host home shows, wrestling shows, bridal shows, medical conventions and rock concerts by each booking is non-defining, and that's exactly what's going on in Category:Wrestling venues in Los Angeles, for instance. But you need to start at the bottom and work up: as long as those problematic child categories exist, this parent makes sense navigation wise. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:54, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete I just realized all the subcategories grouping anywhere that ever hosted a wrestling show were just created since this nomination, above. Delete as nominated and we can get rid of subcategories equivalent to Category:Multipurpose venues that hosted a car show in North Las Vegas later. RevelationDirect (talk) 09:07, 13 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Rename Category:Wrestling venues in New Orleans to Category:Multi-purpose stadiums in New Orleans as a subcat of Category:Multi-purpose stadiums in the United States‎, and merge Category:Professional wrestling venues in New Orleans into it. All of the articles are about multi-purpose venues, and after this rename the specific sports categories should be removed from the articles. The parent category may be renamed accordingly to Category:Multi-purpose stadiums in the United States by city but that may require a next nomination with the other cities included. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:14, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all of the arenas are multi-purpose and cross-listed elsewhere. Simply hosting a wrestling match does not mean the facility is defined by that action. Certain venues in certain cities were/are defined by hosting wrestling events but these are not.--TM 17:05, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete (or rename), unless the venues are used only for wrestling. I recall a similar case some years ago for snooker venues in UK.  Certain competitions were held in the same venue for a week or fortnight each year, but as a theatre or for other purposes form the other 50 weeks.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:06, 17 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Curling in the United States by state

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:50, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting curling in the united states by state


 * Subcategories: Category:Curling in California‎, Category:Curling in Florida‎, Category:Curling in Illinois‎, Category:Curling in Indiana‎, Category:Curling in Maryland‎, Category:Curling in Massachusetts‎, Category:Curling in Michigan‎, Category:Curling in Minnesota‎, Category:Curling in Nebraska‎, Category:Curling in Nevada‎, Category:Curling in New Jersey‎, Category:Curling in New York (state)‎, Category:Curling in North Dakota‎, Category:Curling in Pennsylvania‎, Category:Curling in Utah‎, Category:Curling in Washington (state), Category:Curling in Wisconsin‎
 * Nominator's rationale: /Upmerge to appropriate subcategories of Category:Curling in the United States and by-state categories (e.g. San Francisco Bay Area Curling Club is already in Category:Curling clubs in the United States and Category:Sports teams in San Francisco). There just isn't much about curling in the U.S. Outside of the Minnesota and Wisconsin subcategories, these all have a half-dozen articles or less--most are less than four. Also note that there are no sub-subcategories of this scheme. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:53, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep 13 states have curling pages. That shows that curling is in more states than just Minnesota and Wisconsin and has an impact in multiple state across the U.S. This needs to be a category for organizational purposes. Spatms (talk) 21:39, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep You don't need the entire 50 states to have categories for a scheme to be useful. Currently more than a quarter of them have categories, and there's a decent chance that that may grow. The same is true for most of this series of discussions - if there are more than two or three states grouped together in this way, I see no problem with them remaining. They fit well within the current scheme of . Grutness...wha?  00:11, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Prune States with < 5 Articles Several of these look fine and the parent category is needed but created a tree consistently with underpopulated categories isn't helpful. (I'm fine completely the set if 48 states have 5+ articles and you have a small one for Nebraska and Hawaii.) RevelationDirect (talk) 01:06, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You also planning to consider deleting the sailing and surfing categories, given that (since a lot of states have no coastline), they'll never reach 50 states? As long as there are at least a handful of states with categories, the scheme is useful. Grutness...wha?  03:10, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * No, I'm looking for 5 articles that are really about sailing or surfing in the large majority of state articles before we automatically start creating underpopulated ones to complete the set. I'm fine with 5 or 10 state level sports articles that are well populated which is why I don't favor deleting all of these categories. What concerns me here is that we have 5 well populated categories and that's justifying 14 underpopulated ones. RevelationDirect (talk) 09:12, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I see no need to delete those state categories with say two or three articles Hugo999 (talk) 08:46, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * How do you feel about the 6 subcategories that currently have 1 article? RevelationDirect (talk) 09:12, 13 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Partially keep, most particularly keep Minnesota and Wisconsin, merge the others to Sports in state and Category:Curling in the United States per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:46, 13 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Squash in the United States by state

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:50, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting squash in the united states by state


 * Subcats: Category:Squash in California, Category:Squash in Michigan, Category:Squash in Texas
 * Nominator's rationale: /Upmerge to category:Squash in the United States and individual by-state categories as appropriate. Too little content to build a scheme. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:25, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep The scheme is already built - it's called . Three states is thin, but can you guarantee that this category will not grow? You don't need the entire 50 states to have categories for a scheme to be useful. Grutness...wha?  00:12, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Agree with Grutness. Thin, but worthy of keeping. Can be expanded and squash is played in all states. Wikipedia has enough content to justify "by state" for all or almost all sports categories. Early on in Wikipedia history I could see not categorizing by state, but enough content now exists. Spatms (talk) 21:39, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete All There are four (4) articles for the United States. Breaking this into subcategories makes readers go through more categories than is needed and hinders navigation. No objection to reviewing if any any state gets up to 5 or so articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:03, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Four? There are sixty-six. And most of the categories have five articles or more. Grutness...wha?  02:55, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Prune those Under 5 Articles The articles you added all are Squash related for that state so I'm happy to re-evaluate the categories. As I write this, 6 of 10 have less than 5 articles but the ones that are populated should be kept. Thanks for your work here. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:48, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Eight of ten, unless you're counting a subcategory as an article. Grutness...wha?  10:50, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Oops, I mistakenly took some subcategories as articles in my last comment; sorry about that mistake.RevelationDirect (talk) 02:09, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Easy mistake to make :) Grutness...wha?  07:23, 16 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep I see no need to delete those state categories with say two or three articles Hugo999 (talk) 08:47, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Partially keep, most particularly keep Pennsylvania, merge the others to Sports in state and Category:Squash in the United States per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:59, 17 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Cross country running in the United States by state

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:50, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cross country running in the united states by state


 * Subcategories: Category:Cross country running in Illinois, Category:Cross country running courses in Illinois
 * Nominator's rationale: /Upmerge to Category:Cross country running in the United States as appropriate. There is no scheme for this--just two courses in Illinois. If someone can make the structure of a whole scheme, no prejudice to re-creation but it's just not necessary or helpful for navigation at the moment. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:04, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep There is also enough content under Cross Country running per state to justify keeping this category. Cross country takes places in all 50 states. Do not delete as content is available now and should be added. Spatms (talk) 21:33, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've made a start on expanding the by-state categorisation of cross country, and it's clear there's enough scope for this category to be useful. The same is almost certainly true of all the other by-state sports categories nominated. Grutness...wha?  00:25, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Having a n single article in multiple states isn't a good basis for creating dozens of categories. I'm not seeing the navigational benefit when the whole tree is anemic. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:08, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The "whole tree" has only just been started as an indication of what is possible - there are more articles that can be categorised. And not one of those articles is in multiple state categories. Grutness...wha?  02:12, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I clarified my comment that I'm concerned when the tree consists mostly of 1 article categories, not that a single category is in multiple states. (My wording was definitely unclear.) I have nothing against this sport, but this level of subcategorization that breaks up articles instead of grouping them seems to me would hinder reader navigation for right now. As the article count for Cross Country or other sports grow, this is worth revisiting. Thanks for considering my viewpoint.RevelationDirect (talk) 09:20, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * In that case, I'd tend to agree. One-article categories are overkill, so it's fine to delete them - but with no prejudice against them being re-created if and when there are more articles. But there is definite growth potential in all these categories. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  10:56, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm also in favor of recreating any of the categories on this page if and when the article count grows.RevelationDirect (talk) 02:10, 16 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Weak delete, I'm open to the possibility of further populating these categories, however they are meanwhile half a year old, so there has been plenty of opportunity to add more content already - if more content exists. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:26, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * With the recent expansion of the category tree my previous comment is no longer clear or no longer applicable. With the limited amount of content in the Illinois categories I would suggest a merge of Category:Cross country running in Illinois to Category:Cross country running in the United States, and Category:Cross country running courses in Illinois to Category:Cross country running courses in the United States; and merge both to Category:Sports in Illinois as a second merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:10, 16 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Cricket in the United States by state
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:50, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cricket in the united states by state


 * Subcatgories: Category:Cricket in California (sub-categories of that: Category:Cricket teams in California and Category:Cricket teams in Los Angeles), Category:Cricket in Florida, Category:Cricket in New Jersey, Category:Cricket in Pennsylvania
 * Nominator's rationale: /Upmerge all to Category:Cricket in the United States also, upmerge some content to appropriate by state parent categories (e.g. Category:Sports in California): there is too little content on cricket in the United States to justify splitting by state--all of these are one-page categories (Florida has two). ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:43, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep 7 states have pages related to cricket after a nonexhaustive search. New York, Indiana, Texas, Illinois, Maryland, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Florida, California. Shows there is enough content in the United States to justify splitting by state. This needs to be a category for organizational purposes. Spatms (talk) 21:39, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep all state categories per Spatms. May be worth upmerging the teams in LA category t the teams in California category, but that would require a separate nomination. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  00:04, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Spatms.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 06:51, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete All 7 categories for 10 articles. Good grief. No conceptual problem with these categories but, in practice, this is just breaking up a small group of articles into too many subcategories and hindering navigation. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:11, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: A quick search of US sports categories, and it's now expanded to 12 categories and 55 articles. It could probably expand further with a bit more search. I don't see this as hindering navigation, but rather helping it. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  02:40, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Minute Maid Park is the home field of the Houston Astros baseball team. For just one day in 2015, they hosted a cricket match so now that stadium article is in two (2) cricket categories? That feels like WP:PERFCAT to me. RevelationDirect (talk) 09:29, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Fair enough - that one probably is overkill. WP:OCVENUE's probably a better criticism though. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  07:33, 16 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Full upmerge -- I cannot believe that enough cricket is played in US to merit a "by state" split. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:08, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You might be surprised, . There are nearly 40,000 registered players in the US, and there are cricket clubs registered in over 40 US states. The country is currently rated as the 24th best team in the world (out of over 100 that play the sport) - by way of comparison, that's higher than the US's ranking in soccer. The US hosted the first ever cricket international, and completed an international series against Canada just last week. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  02:06, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Not the amount of players but the amount of articles should be decisive. As long as we don't have several hundreds of articles about cricket in the US it doesn't make sense to split by state (e.g. 250 articles in total divided by 50 states is 5 articles per state on average). Marcocapelle (talk) 18:52, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * at a quick count up of the category, we have more than 250 articles on American cricket, and there is quite a bit of state-specific undercategorising. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  01:39, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I am surprised. The question is however whether enough of the clubs and players are notable to merit a split. I suspect not.  Peterkingiron (talk) 22:24, 18 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Update: now has over 30 articles,  has 25, and  has 16.  has nine. Is that sufficient? Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  01:42, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Wikimania
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikimania


 * Nominator's rationale: Single-article category; the main article is already appropriately categorized in the various parent categories. (Category creator not notified: inactive) -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:16, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete/Upmerge Even if one or two gatherings were notable, those could be put in a more generic category up the tree. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:05, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Users who claim to be WikiFallen
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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete (C1: empty category). This was a single-user category, and the sole user (also category creator) removed the category from their user page in May 2017. -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:52, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting users who claim to be wikifallen


 * Nominator's rationale: empty Rathfelder (talk) 16:37, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Could you please indicate why you think it's necessary to discuss it here? (i.e. for what reason did you decide not to tag it as an empty category?) Marcocapelle (talk) 16:52, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


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Up to the year 1000 in Germany, India, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Maya civilization, Mexico, Norway, the Papal states, Portugal, Scotland, Spain, Switzerland, the Republic of Venice, Vietnam
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated, including the full list on the talk page. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:42, 7 October 2017 (UTC)


 * The following is an example, the full list of categories to be merged/deleted are on the talk page.
 * Propose merging Category:525 disestablishments in India‎ to Category:525 disestablishments in Asia and Category:6th-century disestablishments in India‎
 * Propose deleting Category:525 in India‎
 * Propose deleting Category:520s disestablishments in India‎
 * Propose deleting Category:520s in India‎
 * Nominator's rationale: merge to century level in each of the respective countries, per WP:SMALLCAT, mostly only one article per category. This is a follow-up on this earlier nomination which dealt with the four better populated countries (China, England, France, Japan). This new nomination now concludes with the 'smaller' countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:26, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Support the principle -- per precedent. I have not checked the detail.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:45, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support the principle -- per Peterkingiron Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:34, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support the principle the extremely rare larger cat can always be kept or recreated -- Agathoclea (talk) 19:52, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose to merge to century level; would probably support merger on decade level.GreyShark (dibra) 05:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep for those countries which still exist; extinct countries can be merged to decade. Tim! (talk) 17:10, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: see related nomination now relisted at October 3. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:58, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment It rather misses the point of the nomination to say, "those countries which still exist"; nobody denies that they currently exist, rather the question is if they existed at that remote time period. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:01, 3 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Upmerge Per Nom I clicked through each of the cats and they all have one item. I'm fine with creating a few small subcategories to complete a set but only if the whole tree isn't anemic. I don't share the standards above with treating current countries or decades differently, for me it's all about the article count. RevelationDirect (talk) 09:10, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


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Category:210s disestablishments by continent
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting 210s disestablishments by continent


 * Nominator's rationale: empty Rathfelder (talk) 14:09, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Converts from Islam to agnosticism or atheism
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting converts from islam to agnosticism or atheism


 * Nominator's rationale: Same reasons as DVdm (talk) 09:23, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. --Grabado (talk) 09:32, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - there is no formal process of "converting" to agnosticism or atheism (as they are not organized religions) making this category pretty irrelevant. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 15:12, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


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Catholic universities and colleges by location
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.  ℯ  xplicit  05:31, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges by continent to Category:Catholic universities and colleges by continent
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Africa‎ to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Africa‎
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Asia‎ to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Asia
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Europe‎ to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in North America‎ to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in North America
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in South America‎ to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in South America
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Oceania to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Oceania
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Albania to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Albania
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Argentina to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Argentina


 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Austria to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Austria
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Australia to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Australia
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Belgium to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Belgium
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Brazil to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Brazil
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Canada to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Canada
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Chile to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Chile
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in China to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in China
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Colombia to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Colombia
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Cuba to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Cuba
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in England to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in England
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Ecuador to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Ecuador
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in France to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in France
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Germany to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Germany
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Ghana to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Ghana
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Hungary to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Hungary
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Hong Kong to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Hong Kong
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in India to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in India
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Indonesia to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Indonesia
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Ireland to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Ireland
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in the Republic of Ireland to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in the Republic of Ireland
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Northern Ireland to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Northern Ireland
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Italy to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Italy
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Japan to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Japan
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Lebanon to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Lebanon
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Mexico to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Mexico
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Mozambique to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Mozambique
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in the Netherlands to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in the Netherlands
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in New Zealand to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in New Zealand
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Nigeria to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Nigeria
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Pakistan to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Pakistan
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Peru to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Peru
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in the Philippines to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in the Philippines
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Poland to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Poland
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Puerto Rico to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Puerto Rico
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in South Korea to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in South Korea
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Spain to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Spain
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Scotland to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Scotland
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in South Sudan to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in South Sudan
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Taiwan to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Taiwan
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in the United Arab Emirates to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in the United Arab Emirates
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Uruguay to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Uruguay
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Ukraine to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Ukraine
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in the United Kingdom to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in the United Kingdom
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in the United States to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in the United States
 * Propose renaming Category:Former Roman Catholic universities and colleges in the United States to Category:Former Catholic universities and colleges in the United States
 * Propose renaming Category:Defunct Roman Catholic universities and colleges in the United States to Category:Defunct Catholic universities and colleges in the United States
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Alabama to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Alabama
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in California to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in California
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Colorado to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Colorado
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Delaware to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Delaware
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Florida to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Florida
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Georgia (U.S. state) to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Georgia (U.S. state)
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Hawaii to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Hawaii
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Illinois to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Illinois
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Indiana to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Indiana
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Iowa to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Iowa
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Kansas to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Kansas
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Kentucky to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Kentucky
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Louisiana to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Louisiana
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Maine to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Maine
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Maryland to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Maryland
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Missouri to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Missouri
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Montana to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Montana
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in New Hampshire to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in New Hampshire
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in New Jersey to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in New Jersey
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in New York (state) to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in New York (state)
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in North Carolina to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in North Carolina
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in North Dakota to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in North Dakota
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Ohio to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Ohio
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Oklahoma to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Oklahoma
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Oregon to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Oregon
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Rhode Island to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Rhode Island
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in South Dakota to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in South Dakota
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Tennessee to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Tennessee
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Texas to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Texas
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Utah to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Utah
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Virginia to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Virginia
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Washington (state) to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Washington (state)
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in West Virginia to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in West Virginia
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Wisconsin to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Wisconsin
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Wyoming to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Wyoming
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic Universities and colleges in Washington, D.C. to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Washington, D.C.
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Venezuela to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Venezuela
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Wales to Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Wales


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:Consistency with parent category Category:Catholic universities and colleges by country (recently renamed after CFR), as well as with Catholic Church, Category:Catholic Church, Category:Catholic Church by country, Talk:Catholic Church in Armenia, etc. Moreover, "Roman" is not used as a disambiguator in this case, as stated here. --Grabado (talk) 07:33, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Support per nominator, and also in WP: Consistency per Talk:Catholic education. Chicbyaccident (talk) 07:58, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support for the reasons given. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  09:45, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support Ample precedent in recent CFD decisions. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:28, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support Agathoclea (talk) 19:53, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Senegalese expatriate footballers in Germany
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. All articles already in parent categories.  ℯ  xplicit  05:31, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting senegalese expatriate footballers in germany


 * Nominator's rationale: /Upmerge to appropriate parents. No need for intersection of nationality, immigration status, job, sport, and location. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:48, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Support Enormous potential for explosion of categories that would have to follow the career path of every footballer. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:32, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Republic of Ireland expatriate association footballers in Scotland
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to parent categories.  ℯ  xplicit  05:31, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting republic of ireland expatriate association footballers in scotland


 * Nominator's rationale: /Upmerge to parents. No need for an intersection of nationality, location, immigration status, job, and sport. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:41, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Support Enormous potential for explosion of categories that would have to follow the career path of every footballer. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:32, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:American expatriate soccer players in Finland
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to parent categories.  ℯ  xplicit  05:31, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting american expatriate soccer players in finland


 * Nominator's rationale: /Upmerge to parents. Unnecessary intersection of nationality, immigration status, job, sport, and location. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:35, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Support Enormous potential for explosion of categories that would have to follow the career path of every footballer. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:32, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Republic of Ireland expatriate association footballers in England
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to parent categories.  ℯ  xplicit  05:31, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting republic of ireland expatriate association footballers in england


 * Nominator's rationale: /Upmerge to parent cats. Unnecessary intersection of job, sport, location, immigration status, and nationality. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:33, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Support Enormous potential for explosion of categories that would have to follow the career path of every footballer. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:32, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:American expatriate women's soccer players in Germany
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to parent categories.  ℯ  xplicit  05:31, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting american expatriate women's soccer players in germany


 * Nominator's rationale: /Upmerge to both parents. Unnecessary intersection of sex, sport, immigration status, location, and nationality. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:35, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep as non-diffusing subcategory. I added a related template to the category page. Hmlarson (talk) 06:30, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Why would you do this? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:53, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you explain a bit more why you want to make this change? Hmlarson (talk) 03:59, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Because--as pointed out elsewhere--this is a wildly impossible amount of categories to maintain which will have only the narrowest niche members and is a quintuple intersection. Do you know of any other categories with that many intersecting properties? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:50, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't see it that way. The majority of my work is on articles related to women's soccer / football. This structure has been in place for awhile. I think the category is relevant to this topic... as noted below: If someone wants learn which American women soccer players played in Germany, this category serves that purpose. It's a non-diffusing category per WP:DUPCAT. works quite a bit in this realm - perhaps they'd be willing to provide additional input. Hmlarson (talk) 05:02, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You don't see it as a category intersection? But it clearly is. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:41, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * - Can you provide a link to the guideline you are following? Hmlarson (talk) 01:49, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:NARROWCAT and specifically Overcategorization/Intersection of location and occupation. See also Category intersection. See also Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality and Category names for examples. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:20, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Overcategorization/Intersection of location and occupation is an essay while WP:DUPCAT is a guideline and includes link to Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality. I think this particular category structure ***in this case*** is useful for this topic. Category intersection is a feature request, "the details of which may still be in development or under discussion". Hmlarson (talk) 02:28, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * - If I want to learn which American women soccer players played in Germany, this category serves that purpose. It's a non-diffusing category per WP:DUPCAT. Hmlarson (talk) 04:28, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support Enormous potential for explosion of categories that would have to follow the career path of every footballer. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:32, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Upmerge - per nom. Too trivial and over specific. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 14:44, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Expatriate association football players in the Americas
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ℯ  xplicit  05:31, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting expatriate association football players in the americas


 * Nominator's rationale: Not really necessary to break apart by continental landmass, nor is there a similar scheme for Eurasia. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:24, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Support Enormous potential for explosion of categories that would have to follow the career path of every footballer. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:33, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


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