Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 April 3



Category:Transit authorities with hybrid buses

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete as no longer defining. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:37, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting transit authorities with hybrid buses


 * Nominator's rationale: Useless category. Hybrid buses are extremely common, and running them is not a notable characteristic of any given transit agency. (Compare, for example, to trolleybuses, which are a less common and more notable vehicle type due to the infrastructure and publicity they come with.) This category was created in 2008 when hybrid buses were uncommon; in 2018 it's no longer useful. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:27, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete not defining for the transit agencies, as these properties will come and go. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:09, 9 April 2018 (UTC)


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Croix de Guerre (France)

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. ℯ xplicit  02:16, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming
 * Category:Recipients of the Croix de guerre (France) to Category:Recipients of the Croix de Guerre (France)
 * Category:Female recipients of the Croix de guerre (France)‎ to Category:Female recipients of the Croix de Guerre (France)‎
 * Category:Recipients of the Croix de guerre 1914–1918 (France)‎ to Category:Recipients of the Croix de Guerre 1914–1918 (France)‎
 * Category:Recipients of the Croix de guerre 1939–1945 (France) to Category:Recipients of the Croix de Guerre 1939–1945 (France)


 * Nominator's rationale: capitalise per head article Croix de Guerre, with the dab "(France)" to distinguish from it the Belgian decoration known as the Croix de guerre or Oorlogskruis: War Cross (Belgium).
 * NGrams show a preference for lowercase in recent French but capitalisation predominant in English. (thanks to @Fayenatic for the research and the page move to the capitalised form, but since it was moved without discussion the categories are ineligible for a speedy rename). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:18, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

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 * Category:Female recipients of the Croix de Guerre to Category:Female recipients of the Croix de Guerre (France) – C2C: per parent Category:Recipients of the Croix de guerre (France). Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:53, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * @BrownHairedGirl: Any objection to Category:Female recipients of the Croix de guerre (France) (lowercase "g"), per the parent? -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:53, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I hadn't spotted that discrepancy. I was about to say yes, lc per parent, but I went to look for the head articles: Recipients of the Croix de Guerre (France) and Croix de Guerre. I dunno which capitalisation is best, but think we should follow the articles. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:26, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I rather think the articles are misnamed and "guerre" should not be capitalized—it certainly wouldn't be in French. I'll do a bit of digging on this. -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:57, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * pending the outcome of your research on head article titles, are you OK for me to proceed with a move to Category:Female recipients of the Croix de guerre (France)? I think it's impt to at least add the disambiguator. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:53, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I suggest another RM on the main article. There was one in 2015 but it was very sparsely attended. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:48, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I have processed this using the lowercase option. However, I've belatedly checked NGrams which show a preference for lowercase in recent French but capitalisation predominant in English. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:20, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 April 3. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:32, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 April 3. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:32, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Support. The remaining sub-category, Category:Recipients of the Croix de guerre des théâtres d'opérations extérieures, should remain unchanged, as it uses the longhand French name which is lowercase. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:40, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Flagship Program

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at Categories for discussion/Log/2018 April 19. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:29, 19 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Flagship Program to Category:Large Strategic Science Missions
 * Nominator's rationale: "Flagship Program" is a misnomer, and no such NASA program actually exists. For this reason, I also recently moved the page Flagship Program to Large Strategic Science Missions. NilsTycho (talk) 16:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment, correct me if I'm wrong but based on the main article and on the articles in the category it seems like this is subjective classification, suitable for an article but not suitable for a category. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Film schools in Quebec

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 11:43, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Film schools in Quebec to Category:Film schools in Canada
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT which does not meet the conditions required to qualify for an exemption to WP:OCLOCATION: the parent is not large enough to require subcategorization by province, and the location is not itself a WP:DEFINING characteristic. Being located in Quebec does not change the notability context of a film school, compared to being located in Ontario or British Columbia -- note, for example, that one of the three institutions here has two campuses, one of which is in Ontario. And it's not a question of language, either, because only one of the three institutions filed here is francophone. So there's simply no need for Quebec to have its own dedicated subcategory here, when no other Canadian province does. Bearcat (talk) 13:46, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 01:00, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose as nominated. No reason given for merging to only one of the 3 parents of  Category:Film schools in Quebec. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * All three articles are already elsewhere in the tree of Category:Schools in Quebec and directly in Category:Cinema of Quebec, so no need to merge to the other two parents. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:39, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:16, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge (changing my !vote now that my objection has been resolve). WP:SMALLCAT. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:21, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


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Category:GMTV presenters and reporters

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep without prejudice a fresh nomination in which the issues for opposing are resolved. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:10, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting gmtv presenters and reporters


 * Propose deleting itv breakfast presenters and reporters


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:PERFCAT -- wooden superman  11:46, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose as nominated:
 * No reason is given for deletion, rather than merger to the parent Category:British television presenters.
 * There are 8 by-broadcaster subcats of Category:British television presenters. No reason is given for removing only 2 of the 8. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:58, 4 April 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Tang dynasty generals related to Baekje

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:09, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Tang dynasty generals related to Baekje to Category:Tang dynasty generals at war against Baekje
 * Propose renaming Category:Tang dynasty generals related to Goguryeo‎ to Category:Tang dynasty generals at war against Goguryeo
 * Propose renaming Category:Tang dynasty generals related to Göktürks‎ to Category:Tang dynasty generals at war against the Göktürks
 * Propose renaming Category:Tang dynasty generals related to Tibet‎ to Category:Tang dynasty generals at war against Tibet
 * Propose renaming Category:Tang dynasty generals related to Xueyantuo to Category:Tang dynasty generals at war against Xueyantuo
 * Nominator's rationale: rename to clarify what this is about. Initially I thought it was about generals who had Baekje relatives. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:42, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. -- Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  12:51, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Big Sky football team navigational boxes

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:53, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting big sky football team navigational boxes


 * Nominator's rationale: These navboxes are already grouped at Category:NCAA Division I FCS team navigational boxes There's no need to further subdivide them by conference. Jweiss11 (talk) 04:58, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment I'm not an FCS editor, but isn't this just an administrative category like a lot of existing ones at Category:American college sports navigational boxes by conference?—Bagumba (talk) 11:58, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * well, it's an administrative category, but not like those other ones. The sub-categories of Category:American college sports navigational boxes by conference contain navboxes whose subject is a conference or a conference-wide element of a conference.  The nominated category contains navboxes that are team-specific.  To my knowledge the nominee is the only category of its type. Jweiss11 (talk) 23:16, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Neutral Understood. I don't see it as problematic for this category to exist to group teams from the same conference, and think it might be a good idea to do the same categorization for all conferences.  However, I can also understand the desire to delete this if this is the exception and will never be applied to other conferences.—Bagumba (talk) 12:56, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Again, it's an outlier, one-of-kind category created by editor who didn't appear to be working for consistency across the category tree. Do Category:NCAA Division I FCS team navigational boxes and like need to be subdivided by conference?  I think that's unnecessary and would introduce more administrative overhead as teams change conferences—which happen more often than teams change divisional classification. It also would create confusion, as we had above, between categories for templates about a conference and categories for templates about members of a conference. Jweiss11 (talk) 22:33, 5 April 2018 (UTC)


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