Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 August 16



Medieval and Early Modern Switzerland

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: merge. ℯ xplicit  00:46, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:1049 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1049 establishments in Europe and Category:11th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1064 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1064 establishments in Europe and Category:11th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1085 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1085 establishments in Europe and Category:11th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1110s establishments in Switzerland to Category:1110s establishments in Europe and Category:12th-century establishments in Switzerland


 * Propose merging Category:1130 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1130 establishments in Europe and Category:12th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1191 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1191 establishments in Europe and Category:12th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1200 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1200 establishments in Europe and Category:13th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1206 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1206 establishments in Europe and Category:13th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1231 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1231 establishments in Europe and Category:13th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1234 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1234 establishments in Europe and Category:13th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1237 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1237 establishments in Europe and Category:13th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1256 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1256 establishments in Europe and Category:13th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1259 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1259 establishments in Europe and Category:13th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1270 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1270 establishments in Europe and Category:13th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1290s establishments in Switzerland‎ to Category:13th-century establishments in Switzerland (already in Category:1291 in Europe)
 * Propose merging Category:1295 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1295 establishments in Europe and Category:13th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1309 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1309 establishments in Europe and Category:14th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1315 in Switzerland to Category:1315 in Europe and Category:14th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1336 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1336 establishments in Europe and Category:14th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1337 in Switzerland to Category:1337 in Europe and Category:14th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1339 in Switzerland to Category:1339 in Europe and Category:14th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1348 in Switzerland to Category:1348 in Europe and Category:14th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1349 in Switzerland to Category:1349 in Europe and Category:14th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1356 in Switzerland to Category:1356 in Europe and Category:14th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1383 in Switzerland to Category:1383 in Europe and Category:14th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1384 in Switzerland to Category:1384 in Europe and Category:14th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1386 in Switzerland to Category:1386 in Europe and Category:14th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1440 in Switzerland to Category:1440 in Europe and Category:15th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1446 disestablishments in Switzerland to Category:1446 disestablishments in Europe and Category:15th-century disestablishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1446 in Switzerland‎ to Category:1446 in Europe and Category:15th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1476 in Switzerland to Category:1476 in Europe and Category:15th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1501 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1501 establishments in Europe and Category:16th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1510s in Switzerland to Category:16th century in Switzerland (already in Category:1512 in Europe)
 * Propose merging Category:1520s disestablishments in Switzerland‎ to Category:1520s disestablishments in Europe and Category:16th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1523 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1523 establishments in Europe and Category:16th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1524 disestablishments in Switzerland to Category:1524 disestablishments in Europe and Category:16th-century disestablishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1525 disestablishments in Switzerland to Category:1525 disestablishments in Europe and Category:16th-century disestablishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1526 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1526 establishments in Europe and Category:16th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1529 disestablishments in Switzerland to Category:1529 disestablishments in Europe and Category:16th-century disestablishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1577 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1577 establishments in Europe and Category:16th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1602 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1602 establishments in Europe and Category:17th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1606 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1606 establishments in Europe and Category:17th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1648 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1648 establishments in Europe and Category:17th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1650 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1650 establishments in Europe and Category:17th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1660 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1660 establishments in Europe and Category:17th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1661 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1661 establishments in Europe and Category:17th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1681 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1681 establishments in Europe and Category:17th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1693 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1693 establishments in Europe and Category:17th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1735 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1735 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1738 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1738 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1742 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1742 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1748 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1748 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1762 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1762 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1775 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1775 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1777 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1777 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1780 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1780 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1780 in Switzerland‎ to Category:1780 in Europe and Category:18th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1782 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1782 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1787 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1787 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1789 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1789 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1790 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1790 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1790s in Switzerland‎ to Category:1790s in Europe and Category:18th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1792 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1792 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1795 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1795 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1797 disestablishments in Switzerland to Category:1797 disestablishments in Europe and Category:18th-century disestablishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1798 disestablishments in Switzerland to Category:1798 disestablishments in Europe and Category:18th-century disestablishments in Switzerland


 * Propose merging Category:1798 establishments in Switzerland to Category:1798 establishments in Europe and Category:18th-century establishments in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1798 in Switzerland‎ to Category:1798 in Europe and Category:18th century in Switzerland
 * Propose merging Category:1799 in Switzerland to Category:1799 in Europe, Category:Helvetic Republic and Category:18th century in Switzerland
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, mostly just a single article in every category. Note that this is not a nomination to discuss anachronism (Switzerland versus Old Swiss Confederacy), for such a discussion there should be a nomination of centuries as well. The only thing that will happen with this proposal is that Switzerland and the Old Swiss Confederacy will become consistently categorized (i.e. by century), which might be of help to set up a future anachronism discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Support Switzerland versus Old Swiss Confederacy may well need further rationalisation, but that is for another day. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:06, 18 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Urban sprawl

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Urbanization. ℯ xplicit  00:46, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Urban sprawl to Category:Peri-urbanisation
 * Nominator's rationale: We have two articles on this subject one called urban sprawl the other peri-urbanisation; the former is cited as the topic article for the category. In the introduction to that article it is noted that the term "urban sprawl" is problematic, even pejorative. ("The term urban sprawl is highly politicized, and almost always has negative connotations. It is criticized for causing environmental degradation, and intensifying segregation and undermining the vitality of existing urban areas and attacked on aesthetic grounds. Due to the pejorative meaning of the term, few openly support urban sprawl as such. The term has become a rallying cry for managing urban growth"). In light of that, I suggest we rename the category to the neutral term. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:15, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Urbanization. Only few articles in this category are related to Urban sprawl or Peri-urbanisation in particular, most articles are about other topics within the more general area of urbanization. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:54, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge per Marcocapelle: that is a good solution. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:02, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose merge – on my reading, several other member articles prominently mention "urban sprawl" as a defining aspect of their own topic. I don't remember coming across "peri-urban" before, but it is used in a few dozen Wikipedia articles, so perhaps renaming is appropriate. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:24, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * "Only few articles" or "several other articles", that may not be so far apart. Anyway, if the category is kept then move/purge the articles that are not about this topic. I do not have a strong opinion about renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:52, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯ xplicit 03:52, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Alt Merge to Category:Urbanization per Marcocapelle. "Peri-urbanisation" is pretty obscure and not everything in this cat fits neatly under that. RevelationDirect (talk) 22:50, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.