Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 August 26



Category:Commercial video games with freely available source code

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) —  Newslinger   talk   10:48, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Commercial video games with freely available source code to Category:Proprietary source-available video games
 * Nominator's rationale: Source-available is more concise than with freely available source code. Also, Proprietary is a better descriptor than Commercial, since it explicitly excludes free and open-source software. —  Newslinger  talk   21:15, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The suggested title is hard to parse. Also, not all of the source code is proprietary. Some of it is legitimately open source. The emphasis is on the games having been created or published commercially, not the license of the software. &#x27A7; datumizer   &#9742;  03:13, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * What are your thoughts on renaming the category to Category:Source-available video games? I'm not sure how an editor would discern whether a game is "commercial", since many games in the category are simply published on the developer's website under a source-available license. —  Newslinger  talk   03:37, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The "Distinction from free software and open-source software" section is troubling. Also, articles about games "simply published on the developer's website" are likely to be deleted quickly, and thus will not remain in the category very long. &#x27A7; datumizer   &#9742;  03:53, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Never mind. The next section explains how FOSS are also source-available. Still, the emphasis is supposed to be on commercial titles. (Notable ones in articles with citations from reliable sources.) &#x27A7; datumizer   &#9742;  03:57, 27 August 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Male critics of feminism

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. ℯ xplicit  05:06, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Male critics of feminism to Category:Critics of feminism
 * Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization by gender per WP:EGRS TM 20:36, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose - is the parent, Category:Men and feminism, overcategorization as well? If so, these should be discussed simultaneously, not separately.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  20:49, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above, and agree that they ought be dealt with collectively. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:29, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above. feminist (talk) 12:25, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The gender of critics of feminism is a reasonably important point of distinction. bd2412  T 16:46, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge gender's role in one's position in regards to feminism is purely a POV; should we have Category:Divorced Roman Catholics or Category:Catholic pro-choice activists type categories given the assumptions folks make on how one's identity should mold his or her stance on an issue? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:14, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment the question to be asked by each commentator is whether female criticism of feminism is inherently different from male criticism of feminism. If not, it does not represent a notable distinction.--TM 21:28, 9 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Female critics of feminism

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. ℯ xplicit  05:06, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Female critics of feminism to Category:Critics of feminism
 * Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization by gender per WP:EGRS. TM 20:36, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose - is the parent, Category:Women critics, overcategorization as well? If so, these should be discussed simultaneously, not separately.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  20:49, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * IMHO this category does not belong in Category:Women critics anyway, as that is intended for professional arts critics, not for people who criticise a movement. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:31, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Provisional oppose this category should not be deleted if the male sibling is kept (see nomination above). Marcocapelle (talk) 02:31, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge gender's role in one's position in regards to feminism is purely a POV; should we have Category:Divorced Roman Catholics or Category:Catholic pro-choice activists type categories given the assumptions folks make on how one's identity should mold his or her stance on an issue? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:15, 2 September 2018 (UTC)


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Medieval Italy, Venice, Florence, Genoa, Papal States, Naples, Sicily

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 14:32, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:1000s establishments in Italy to Category:11th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1000s establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1004 establishments in Italy to Category:11th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1004 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1015 in Italy to Category:11th century in Italy and Category:1015 in Europe


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 * Propose merging Category:1343 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1343 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1344 disestablishments in the Republic of Florence to Category:14th-century disestablishments in the Republic of Florence and Category:1344 disestablishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1345 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1345 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1346 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1346 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1346 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1346 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1348 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1348 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1349 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1349 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1350s in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1350s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1352 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1352 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1355 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1355 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1355 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1355 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1358 in the Republic of Venice to Category:14th century in the Republic of Venice and Category:1358 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1360 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1360 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1360s establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1360s establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1360s in the Republic of Venice to Category:14th century in the Republic of Venice and Category:1360s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1361 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1361 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1362 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1362 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1362 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1362 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1363 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1363 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1364 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1364 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1364 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1364 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1366 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1366 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1368 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1368 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1370s establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1370s establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1370s in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1370s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1370s in the Papal States to Category:14th century in the Papal States and Category:1370s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1370s in the Republic of Florence to Category:14th century in the Republic of Florence and Category:1370s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1373 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1373 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1375 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1375 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1375 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1375 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1376 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1376 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1377 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1377 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1378 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1378 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1378 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1378 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1380 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1380 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1380s in the Republic of Florence to Category:14th century in the Republic of Florence and Category:1380s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1381 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1381 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1381 in the Republic of Venice to Category:14th century in the Republic of Venice and Category:1381 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1385 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1385 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1385 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1385 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1386 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1386 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1387 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1387 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1390 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1390 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1390s in the Republic of Florence to Category:14th century in the Republic of Florence and Category:1390s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1391 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1391 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1391 in Italy to Category:14th century in Italy and Category:1391 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1396 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1396 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1397 establishments in the Republic of Florence to Category:14th-century establishments in the Republic of Florence and Category:1397 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1400 establishments in Italy to Category:14th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1400 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1400s in the Republic of Florence to Category:15th century in the Republic of Florence and Category:1400s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1400s in the Republic of Venice to Category:15th century in the Republic of Venice and Category:1400s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1402 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1402 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1404 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1404 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1406 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1406 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1407 establishments in the Republic of Genoa to Category:15th-century establishments in the Republic of Genoa and Category:1407 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1409 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1409 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1410 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1410 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1410s in the Republic of Venice to Category:15th century in the Republic of Venice and Category:1410s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1411 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1411 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1413 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1413 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1416 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1416 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1416 in the Republic of Venice to Category:15th century in the Republic of Venice and Category:1416 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1419 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1419 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1420 establishments in the Republic of Venice to Category:15th-century establishments in the Republic of Venice and Category:1420 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1420s establishments in the Republic of Florence to Category:15th-century establishments in the Republic of Florence and Category:1420s establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1420s in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1420s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1420s in the Republic of Florence to Category:15th century in the Republic of Florence and Category:1420s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1422 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1422 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1423 disestablishments in the Republic of Venice to Category:15th-century disestablishments in the Republic of Venice and Category:1423 disestablishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1423 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1423 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1423 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1423 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1424 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1424 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1424 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1424 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1425 establishments in the Republic of Florence to Category:15th-century establishments in the Republic of Florence and Category:1425 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1427 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1427 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1429 in the Kingdom of Sicily to Category:15th century in the Kingdom of Sicily and Category:1429 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1430 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1430 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1430s in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1430s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1430s in the Republic of Florence to Category:15th century in the Republic of Florence and Category:1430s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1431 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1431 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1431 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1431 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1432 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1432 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1433 establishments in the Republic of Venice to Category:15th-century establishments in the Republic of Venice and Category:1433 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1434 establishments in the Kingdom of Sicily to Category:15th-century establishments in the Kingdom of Sicily and Category:1434 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1435 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1435 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1435 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1435 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1440 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1440 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1440s in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1440s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1443 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1443 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1447 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1447 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1448 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1448 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1450s in the Republic of Venice to Category:15th century in the Republic of Venice and Category:1450s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1451 in the Kingdom of Naples to Category:15th century in the Kingdom of Naples and Category:1451 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1452 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1452 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1454 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1454 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1454 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1454 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1454 in the Kingdom of Naples to Category:15th century in the Kingdom of Naples and Category:1454 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1454 in the Republic of Florence to Category:15th century in the Republic of Florence and Category:1454 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1456 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1456 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1457 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1457 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1459 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1459 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1460 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1460 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1460 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1460 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1464 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1464 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1464 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1464 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1467 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1467 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1469 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1469 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1470s establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1470s establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1470s in the Republic of Florence to Category:15th century in the Republic of Florence and Category:1470s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1471 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1471 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1471 establishments in the Republic of Genoa to Category:15th-century establishments in the Republic of Genoa and Category:1471 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1473 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1473 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1474 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1474 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1474 in the Republic of Venice to Category:15th century in the Republic of Venice and Category:1474 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1478 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1478 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1478 in the Republic of Florence to Category:15th century in the Republic of Florence and Category:1478 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1479 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1479 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1479 in the Republic of Venice to Category:15th century in the Republic of Venice and Category:1479 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1480 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1480 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1480s establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1480s establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1480s establishments in the Republic of Venice to Category:15th-century establishments in the Republic of Venice and Category:1480s establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1480s in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1480s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1480s in the Republic of Florence to Category:15th century in the Republic of Florence and Category:1480s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1481 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1481 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1482 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1482 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1483 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1483 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1483 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1483 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1484 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1484 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1484 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1484 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1485 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1485 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1486 establishments in the Republic of Venice to Category:15th-century establishments in the Republic of Venice and Category:1486 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1487 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1487 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1488 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1488 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1489 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1489 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1489 establishments in the Republic of Venice to Category:15th-century establishments in the Republic of Venice and Category:1489 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1490 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1490 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1490s establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1490s establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1490s in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1490s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1490s in the Republic of Florence to Category:15th century in the Republic of Florence and Category:1490s in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1491 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1491 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1492 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1492 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1493 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1493 establishments in Europe


 * Propose merging Category:1494 disestablishments in the Republic of Florence to Category:15th-century disestablishments in the Republic of Florence and Category:1494 disestablishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1494 establishments in Italy to Category:15th-century establishments in Italy and Category:1494 establishments in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1494 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1494 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1495 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1495 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1497 in the Republic of Florence to Category:15th century in the Republic of Florence and Category:1497 in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:1498 in Italy to Category:15th century in Italy and Category:1498 in Europe
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, mostly just a single article in every category. Note that this is not a nomination to discuss anachronism (Italy versus the Italian city states), for such a discussion there should be a nomination of centuries as well. The only thing that will happen with this proposal is that both Italy and the the Italian city states will get fewer and better populated categories, and having fewer categories may be of help to set up a future anachronism discussion.
 * Note: this nomination is very similar to these two earlier nominations, both closed as merge: Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_August_12 and Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_August_16. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 29 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I have been a contributor to such categories, and honestly, do not feel strongly one way or another. I preferred to state when a building was "finished" rather than "establishment". There may be room for a category year by year "buildings completed in ...", especially after 1300.Rococo1700 (talk) 23:57, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Protostomes of French Guiana

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 15:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Protostomes of French Guiana to Category:Fauna of French Guiana
 * Nominator's rationale: Per Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_June_6 (this category wasn't in the Protostomes category tree so was missed from that CFD). DexDor(talk) 17:40, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Oculi (talk) 11:21, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:02, 28 August 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Lists of popes, primates, and patriarchs

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 * The result of the discussion was: Keep. Timrollpickering 15:33, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Lists of popes, primates, and patriarchs to Category:Lists of primates (religion)
 * Nominator's rationale: Bit tricky. Not sure about this one. I could see it remaining as preexistingly, but still see some problems worth evaluating. Correct me if I'm wrong: I identify multiple connotations of the term "primate" in a religious sense (c.f. Primate (bishop)), but notably at least one of them being arguably a collective term for leading and/or highest representing offices within religious (Christian) organisations. Except obvious cases where the official title and the denominationally neutral connotation coincide, we have Lists of Abunas (categorised in Category:Lists of patriarchs), and Presiding bishop (categorised in Category:Primates (religion)). Relatedly, we have a Category:Lists of bishops and archbishops category tree, variably containing "Lists of bishops and archebishops of X", "Lists of bishops of X", and "Lists of archbishops of X". Now, the idea would be for a Category:Lists of primates (religion) to contain all of these, including less frequent title-holders such as popes, patriarchs, abunas, presiding bishops, etc. Arguably, Category:Primates (religion) seems to confirm/mirror this solution, doesn't it? Chicbyaccident (talk) 16:14, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep This ought mainly to be a container for categories and lists. Different churches use different names for their top leader, so that having the multiple titles together is justified.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:41, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - the current name is understood by everybody and seems better than the suggested alternative, no reason to change it. Place Clichy (talk) 15:43, 29 August 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Perceived judicial activism in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 15:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting perceived judicial activism in the united states


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:POV and indiscriminate. Perceived by whom? No meaningful threshold is possible, and "judicial activism" is ever more frequently a rhetorical attack on decisions that reach results contrary to someone's political preferences. postdlf (talk) 14:23, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete too much POV involved in choosing articles. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:34, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete for being pure POV. SMP0328. (talk) 01:30, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Virtually any decision by any court could be characterized as "judicial activism" by someone. bd2412  T 16:49, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete POV and subjective. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:15, 2 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Lists of Roman Catholic popes

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Lists of Catholic popes. ℯ xplicit  05:06, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Lists of Roman Catholic popes to Category:Lists of popes
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:C2D: List of popes. Chicbyaccident (talk) 13:24, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose because the Coptic Church also uses the word, so we have the page List of Coptic Orthodox Popes of Alexandria. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:33, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose - List of popes gives 3 other types of pope in addition to the one in the Vatican, so the term is ambiguous and will not do for a category. Oculi (talk) 00:07, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Alternative: Category:Lists of Catholic popes, dropping Roman per article Catholic Church but keeping Catholic for disambiguation. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Support alternative per above as secondary best. Chicbyaccident (talk) 07:13, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Rename per Category:Popes. There is no ambiguity that content is relevant to Catholic popes, and also includes non-official popes in sub Category:Antipopes. Place Clichy (talk) 15:43, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Refine opinion: I also oppose alternative renaming as Category:List of Catholic popes. Main articles List of popes and mother Category:Popes are not confusing (otherwise, do nominate these for renaming). Therefore, renaming this daughter category as Category:Lists of popes should be a no-brainer under WP:C2C and WP:C2D. Place Clichy (talk) 16:44, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Support alternative Laurel Lodged (talk) 22:14, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose/keep Pope is not exclusively Roman Catholic. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:16, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * ,, Does that mean that you will support "Lists of Catholic popes"? Since "Roman Catholic", if anything, seems to risk confusing it with Latin Church, at least in the current state of affairs? Chicbyaccident (talk) 22:19, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Support alt rename to — JFG talk 01:18, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * No objection to the alternative renaming. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:37, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose There are more popes than just the Roman Catholic ones. Another attempt to get things confused. The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 10:16, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Generally speaking, why would anyone here wish to confuse things? In particular, how would the above proposal make things more confusing? Until you sort that out, let's consider your comment confusing. Chicbyaccident (talk) 14:25, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose. This is just renaming for the sake of renaming. It does not bring additional clarity, and, as has been pointed out already, it will lead to confusion with popes of other confessions or denominations. --Vicedomino (talk) 07:57, 22 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Lists of Roman Catholic bishops and archbishops in X
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Category:Lists of Roman Catholics
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Category:Rivers of the Gippsland
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 15:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Rivers of the Gippsland to Category:Rivers of Gippsland
 * Nominator's rationale: Correction. Shyamsunder (talk) 12:44, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Towns in the Gippsland
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 15:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Towns in the Gippsland to Category:Towns in Gippsland
 * Nominator's rationale: Correction. Shyamsunder (talk) 12:43, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


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Category:People associated with Archaeological Survey of India
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 15:31, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People associated with Archaeological Survey of India to Category:Archaeological Survey of India people
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, to align the format with subcategories of Category:People by company. The people in this category were working for the Archaeological Survey of India. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Plants described in the 1750s
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 13:06, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1750s
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1760s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1770s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1780s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1790s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1800s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1810s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1820s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1830s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1840s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1850s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1860s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1870s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1880s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1890s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1900s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1910s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1920s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1930s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1940s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1950s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1960s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1970s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1980s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 1990s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 2000s‎
 * Propose deleting Category:Plants described in the 2010s‎
 * Nominator's rationale: Follow-up removal of empty plant decadal categories, per WP:TREE RFC @ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  00:50, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 *  WT:TREE & WT:PLANTS notified.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  01:05, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment - I don't see anything specific in the linked discussion about 'decade' categories. In contrast the listed categories might well have all been empty for some time so it's surprising that they have not been deleted automatically. Category:Plants described in the 20th century looks fine as it is, but then Category:Species described in the 1940s‎ has animals, bacteria and fungi in plain view but not plants. Oculi (talk) 11:52, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * , search for "decade". Also, I'm doing this separately for each wikiproject, since there might be islands of resistance at a per-wikiproject level, but the removal of decadal 'middlemen' categories is generally favored in the RFC.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  14:50, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't have an opinion about this specific case, but in general I have seen instances when diffusion by year is leading to many near-empty categories while diffusion by century leads to quite crowded categories and in these cases diffusion by decade is a nice in-between solution. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:55, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, in general I can see that being a concern, but for these taxonomy cases the century cats would have at most 100 subcats, which can all be shown on the same page, which project members agree is better than separating them into groups of 10.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  19:20, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks, a search does reveal indeed remarks about decades, for which there is no great support. So I will support the nom. Oculi (talk) 17:29, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment -- I think what has happened is that the decade categories have been emptied out of process. Category:Plants described in 1800‎ is well populated and is the last item in Category:Plants described in the 18th century‎.  The proposal is to eliminate decades as unnecessary, which I am happy to support.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:46, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete – Categorization by single year is enough. — JFG talk 01:13, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment – Is there a reason that closing this has been delayed? Almost 19 days old; 10 days since last comment; 2 WikiProjects notified; RFC to back it up; 3 supports/deletes above; no opposes.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  13:42, 13 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Fashion journalism
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 * The result of the discussion was: Keep. Timrollpickering 15:31, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Fashion journalism to Category:Fashion criticism
 * Propose renaming Category:Fashion journalists to Category:Fashion critics
 * Propose renaming Category:American fashion journalists to Category:American fashion critics
 * Propose renaming Category:Australian fashion journalists to Category:Australian fashion critics
 * Propose renaming Category:British fashion journalists to Category:British fashion critics
 * Propose renaming Category:English fashion journalists to Category:English fashion critics
 * Propose renaming Category:French fashion journalists to Category:French fashion critics
 * Nominator's rationale: The category currently is inaccurate. Fashion publications and writers mainly feature bloggers or columnists. Calling many of the people in this category "journalists" is misleading because they mostly publish opinion pieces (such as style trends, fashion show analysis, etc.) which is inherently biased. None of these people exclusively write factual information as a typical journalist would. Category:Fashion journalists is very different from Category:Business and financial journalists or Category:Crime journalists. I propose renaming to Category:Fashion criticism, like the categories for writers on similar topics like music, theatre, and art. Woebegone (talk) 21:42, 11 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose -- These are (or should be) about people writing for newspapers and magazines about fashion. As such they are entitled to be called journalists.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:25, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Music critics and film critics also write for newspapers and magazines, but they are called critics because they analyze music and film. Most of the people in those categories do not report on music, film, theatre, artworks, and other types of art, which is why those categories are not called journalists. Can you explain why fashion critics/journalists are different? Woebegone (talk) 02:20, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Because the function of fashion magazines, columns, etc is to report on fashion not to criticise it. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:52, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * Tend to oppose, I have sampled Category:Fashion journalists and the word "fashion critic" did not appear in any of the biographies that I saw. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose as per above rationales. Not inaccurate at all. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 21:58, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose Journalist is a synonym of critic? Well that is how we are going to make it look like if these name changes really happened. Accesscrawl (talk) 18:15, 1 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Teachers colleges
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit  05:06, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Teachers colleges to Category:Education schools
 * Nominator's rationale: Two names for the same thing. Education schools is better populated. Rathfelder (talk) 20:48, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * Merge both to Category:Colleges of Education. This needs a headnote explaining that it is about Category:Teacher training colleges, another potential name: all schools provide education (or should do).  These are about teaching the teachers, which is slightly different.  In UK, most of the teacher training colleges were amalgamated into Polytechnics, which have since been rebranded as universities.  In parallel with this, most universities had a School of Education where graduates could do a fourth year to achieve a post-graduate certificate of education.  The American usage of calling tertiary colleges "schools" is misleading in British English.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:38, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I think Peterkingiron's proposal is too heavily influenced by British usage. Rathfelder (talk) 17:52, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * And Education Schools is too heavily influenced by American usage. If you do not like my suggestion, please find something  you consider more NPOV between British and American usage.  I have already offered Category:Teacher training colleges as an alternative.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:11, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
 * We agree there should be a merger, buut I'd like a wider discussion as to the most appropriate name for the merged category.Rathfelder (talk) 20:53, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * Merge as nominated, since there is a well-developed tree for Category:Education schools by country. Perhaps at another occasion a rename can be considered taking the whole tree into consideration. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:14, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose as with Peterkingiron. The use of a worse solution at lower levels is not a reason to use it at higher levels. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 22:00, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * If the discussion is closed as 'no consensus' there should be a follow up nomination with an option A and an option B for the whole tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:25, 28 August 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians who consider themselves participants in all wikiprojects
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit  05:06, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Wikipedians who consider themselves participants in all wikiprojects to Category:Wikipedians who participate in all WikiProjects or Category:Wikipedians who reject WikiProject membership, or delete
 * Nominator's rationale: This is not truly a WikiProject participation category but rather a quasi-wiki-philosophy category based on the rejection of WikiProject membership. I propose, at a minimum, moving it to a name that is shorter (Category:Wikipedians who participate in all WikiProjects) or, better yet, more descriptive (Category:Wikipedians who reject WikiProject membership). However, unlike most wiki-philosophy user categories, there is no established wiki-philosophy for rejecting WikiProject membership, and so my first preference is to delete the category and simply let users express this opinion via the userbox, without generating an opinion-based category grouping. -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:37, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * Don't rename to ".... participate in all wikiprojects" (as that changes the meaning). Delete unless someone provides a reasonable explanation of how the category could be useful. DexDor(talk) 18:01, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * That's a good point, I've struck that portion of my proposal. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:11, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I would also expect that a userbox is sufficient and a category is not needed, but let's check this also out with User:SMcCandlish who created the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:48, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I usually ping the category creator in the nomination, but forgot to do so this time. -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:32, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It is a rather recent wiki-philosophical/wiki-political, userbox-related category, like many others we have (in particular, it's a pro-WP:CONLEVEL, anti-WP:OWNership one, and serves the specific purpose of deflating "your view doesn't count since you're not a member of this project" bullshit). So, Keep.  No actual  rationale has been provided; the above is a combination of WP:IDONTKNOWIT / WP:IDONTLIKEIT stuff (don't understand what it is, not interested in it, ergo it must be bad).  There is also no particular reason that such an internal category must have a short name; it has nothing to do with readers and article categorization, and it's name was chosen very carefully (including use of the word "participants" vs. "members" in paticular, persuant to a CfD years ago that moved a bunch of then-extant "WikiProject Foo members" categories to use the word "participants", shortly after the community nuked WP:Esperanza on the basis that everything on WP is open to everyone and there are no no membership organizations, no special clubs, no walled-garden cliques. Neither of the suggested renames get the entire point across: "who participate in" isn't true, unless you literally go project by project and participate in every single one of them. "who reject WikiProject membership" is confusingly misleading (implying refusal to participate in them, to most people who read it), and missing half of the point: it's not just rejection of membership, but of the notion that prior involvement is a requirement or confers privilege.  There's an important difference between considering oneself a de facto participant in every project, vs. actively working in all of them, or refusing to work in any of them.  Finally, WP:CONCISE applies to articles and by extension to article titles; it isn't really an argument for excessive shortening of project categories, particularly when doing so results in ambiguity or loss of context.  "Concise" doesn't just means "short", but short while conveying the same message.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  12:37, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * While I might put the userbox on my user page (agreeing with the philosophy), I can't imagine how it can be useful to know who else has this userbox on their user page. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:17, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for providing that clarification, and I agree with most everything you stated. On the matter of the category's name, a shorter name is not a must but, all else being equal, is generally preferred. However, based on your explanation above (and assuming the category is kept), I am content with Category:Wikipedians who consider themselves participants in all WikiProjects (fixing capitalization) or perhaps the slightly shorter Category:Wikipedians who claim participation in all WikiProjects. On the matter of the deletion rationale, it is essentially that the category appears to serve no useful function, i.e. I understand the userbox but do not see the value added by a category that groups users who use the userbox. As DexDor stated above, what's unclear is "how the category [itself] could be useful", distinguishing the function of a category (to group related pages) from a userbox (to express a view/sentiment). -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:32, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * Keep userbox, delete category per above discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:39, 1 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Songs written by Greeeen
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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 15:32, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting songs written by greeeen


 * Nominator's rationale: We do not do songwriters by band name - which is the marketing term used to sell records. Members of a band can change, but the songwriting credits do not. Richhoncho (talk) 15:50, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * PS Here is a sample previous discussion which also refers to other discussions. Discussion here --Richhoncho (talk) 08:57, 12 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Should Category:Songs written by The Warren Brothers be likewise split, even though there is no single song written by just one of the two, nor has there ever been a membership change? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:34, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * . I always thought they were a songwriting duo, and as such, although I am not in favour of conjoined songwriters in any event, decided others might disagree with me. Happy to leave the Warren Bros to your more specialist knowledge.I do think Peach Pickers (and others) should be demerged for the very reasons you state. (Why should a songwriter have 2 entries in the same cat?). --Richhoncho (talk) 09:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * Support per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:18, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Support per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:04, 28 August 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Jewish mathematicians who died in the Holocaust
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit  05:06, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting jewish mathematicians who died in the holocaust


 * Nominator's rationale: Having both Category:Mathematicians who died in the Holocaust and Category:Jewish mathematicians who died in the Holocaust seems redundant, seeing as nearly all members off the former would also be in the latter. Kyuko (talk) 01:45, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * Question why do we subcategorize people who died in the Holocaust by occupation at all? It seems quite unrelated. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * A fair question. That hierarchy is currently quite well developed, see Category:People who died in the Holocaust by occupation. For that matter, Category:Jewish people who died in the Holocaust by occupation has several sub-categories, so why is this one singled out for deletion? – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:50, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Very true. The issue has been discussed before, in 2011 where consensus was lacking (also) because of an incomplete nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: all the current member pages are currently also in Category:Mathematicians who died in the Holocaust and in one of the sub-cats of Category:Jewish people who died in the Holocaust by nationality, so if there is consensus to delete this then there will be no need to merge it. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:55, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep but I would prefer to see it as a child (not grandchild) of Category:Jewish people who died in the Holocaust by occupation as Mathematics is sibling subject to science, not a science to which scientific methods (of experiment, etc) are applicable. Having 9 articles, it is big enough to be kept.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:47, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment is this an overlap that's necessary (indeed, the query applies to all the occupations). As I understand the Holocaust, the Jewish victims were not generally selected/targeted by occupation. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:12, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * Procedural keep awaiting a broader nomination with all relevant occupations included. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:42, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge. Per WP:OCEGRS, the Jewish/occupational intersections seem very far-fetched. As Carlossuarez46 put it, Jewish victims were not selected by occupation. In my humble opinion, Category:Jewish people who died in the Holocaust by occupation and all subcats may be deleted/upmerged, keeping maybe Category:Rabbis who died in the Holocaust. In the latter at least some kind of connection can be seen, unlike, say, Category:Jewish chess players who died in the Holocaust. Place Clichy (talk) 15:36, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete / Upmerge to – Needless duplication. — JFG talk 01:08, 4 September 2018 (UTC)


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