Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 24



Category:Events at Christmas

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (manually) to Category:December events or appropriate subcategories by year. No compelling reason was offered to group articles in this manner. Regarding the concern about pollution, the only practical solution is to try to clearly define each category's scope (e.g. here) and purge articles that do not belong. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:38, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Events at Christmas to Category:December events
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING for most entries. The contents should be selectively moved either to Category:December events (like Battle of Lake Okeechobee) or Category:Christmas (like Open Christmas Letter). Brandmeistertalk  22:55, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment from creator, I agree that the category is questionable. However I created it two years ago because I noticed quite some 'pollution' in the Christmas category tree. For example Christmas Eve 2000 Indonesia bombings was in Category:Christmas events and celebrations while it was not an event of Christmas but an event at Christmas. When this category is going to disappear, it is quite likely that the same kind of 'pollution' will again start taking place. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:22, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I hear that, some terror attacks are specifically planned for Christmas. In such cases I think Category:December events (or alongside Category:Christmas) should suffice, as we have articles on many other events on that day. Brandmeistertalk  13:53, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose if it's not retained, then it will inevitably end up polluting Christmas. It's a least-worst solution. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:43, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Most articles inside do not actually have any relation with Christmas, like EgyptAir Flight 864, 1932 Changma earthquake, Battle of Tucapel, etc, so this is largely a non-defining category, as noted above. Brandmeistertalk  08:56, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose Events occuring on a specific date. No reason to diffuse to the month. Dimadick (talk) 12:30, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete we do not group events by what day they happened. Even if we did we should have this be December 25th events.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:01, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge None of these are Christmas related even though they occurred on 12/25. Not defining. RevelationDirect (talk) 04:28, 26 January 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Aaron Yan

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 15:23, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting aaron yan


 * Nominator's rationale: Categorization of just 4 albums doesn't need the double categorization of "album by artist" AND eponymous categorization of the artist as there is no other related article besides the albums. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 22:51, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


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Category:A Haunted House (film series)

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 15:24, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting a haunted house (film series)


 * Nominator's rationale: Two films don't make a series, and certainly doesn't need its own category. Possible upmerge of articles to this category's parents. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 22:39, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment This category is empty. Did the nominator empty it before informing other editors? Dimadick (talk) 12:32, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It looks like the creator of the category emptied it along with the religious-horror-comedy film category that was nominated below. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 20:17, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians in Commerce, Texas

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 15:24, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians in commerce, texas


 * Nominator's rationale: Only 10K people reside in Commerce. Not notable. Beasting123 (talk) 21:20, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per the rationale in this CfD discussing a similarly situated category. VegaDark (talk) 09:42, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Populated places in Manitoulin Island

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Natureium (talk) 02:30, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Populated places in Manitoulin Island to Category:Populated places in Manitoulin District
 * Propose merging Category:Communities in Manitoulin Island to Category:Communities in Manitoulin District
 * Nominator's rationale: Entirely unnecessary distinction between the district and the island that comprises most (but not all) of it. These two brand-new categories exist only to isolate the 59 communities that are on Manitoulin Island itself from the one that's on Goat Island and the two that are on Cockburn Island -- but that's not a meaningful or defining distinction for the purposes of the category system, because the communities are all still in the same "county" regardless of which of the three islands they're on. And even if there were a valid reason to keep them, communities are on islands, not "in" them. Bearcat (talk) 19:47, 24 December 2018 (UTC).


 * Oppose Most large islands have their own categories, and there is no reason why the largest lake island in the world should not have its own category and subcategories.  Places on an island are indeed "isolated" (in the original sense of "isolated") from places on a different island, and it would be hard to find a clearer example of a defining characteristic.--Mhockey (talk) 21:32, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Large islands have their own categories if they don't basically already have a one-to-one correspondence with an existing category for a geographic entity. For instance, we don't have categories to distinguish "in Prince Edward Island qua province" from "on Prince Edward Island qua island"; we don't have categories for "communities on the island of Great Britain", because the existing category trees for England, Scotland and Wales already completely cover that criterion off; we have categories for "populated places on [Greek island]" only when and where that island corresponds to a political region and not where it doesn't; and on and so forth. There's simply no value in using the category system to distinguish communities on the island from communities in the "county", when there are just three communities in the entire Manitoulin District that are on any island other than Manitoulin. Bearcat (talk) 23:11, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * We don't have separate articles for the island of Great Britain and the country, or for the island of Prince Edward Island and the province. But we do have separate articles for Manitoulin Island and Manitoulin District.  Your argument seems to be pointing to a merger of those two articles.  Why have separate articles but only one category?--Mhockey (talk) 22:34, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Because "what qualifies for an article" and "what warrants a category" are two different things with very different rules. Everything that has an article does not always automatically need an eponymous category to match it, so "the district and the island have separate articles" is irrelevant to whether they need separate categories or not — what needs an article and what needs a category are two completely different sets of considerations. And incidentally, yes, we do have separate articles for Great Britain, which is just an island and not a country, and the United Kingdom, which is the actual country located mostly on the island of Great Britain but also partly on the islands of Ireland, the Shetlands, the Hebrides and the Orkneys. Bearcat (talk) 20:09, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, if Goat Island and Cockburn Island would have been big enough they could have had their own category as an island. But since that is not the case, one category is enough. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Support No conceptual objection to distinction but it's not meaningful here. RevelationDirect (talk) 04:29, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose Category:Populated places in Manitoulin Island. As proposed, merging would remove all of these articles from the 'Manitoulin Island' category tree. We could consider upmerging, but surely not just a straight merge to one parent only. Upmerge (i.e. to all parents) Category:Communities in Manitoulin Island. -- Black Falcon (talk) 16:40, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Yuen Long District SA

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 15:25, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting yuen long district sa
 * Propose renaming Category:Yuen Long District SA seasons to Category:Yuen Long FC seasons
 * Nominator's rationale: Per C2D, the main article was Yuen Long FC, thus is correct. No need to have a redundant cat tree . It may have potential for the defunct Yuen Long AA which folded in the 1980s, but not "Yuen Long District SA", the former name of the current Yuen Long FC. Matthew hk (talk) 18:08, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
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Category:Religious horror comedy films

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Horror comedy films. A reminder to whomever emptied the category, please heed the discussion notice on any nominated category: "Please do not empty the category ... while the discussion is in progress." -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:28, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting religious horror comedy films


 * Nominator's rationale: Overexcessive 3-way intersection of religious-comedy-horror films. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:42, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep There are films like this that exist. There's going to be more films.RainbowSilver2ndBackup (talk) 19:12, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The word "religious" isn't even mentioned in either A Haunted House articles. I don't think anyone would categorize them as "religious films". Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 22:42, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to Category:Horror comedy films. We don't even have an article on religious horror comedy. Brandmeistertalk  22:59, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Support, the articles of this category are already in Category:Films about exorcism. We do not need another category. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:05, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Meanwhile these articles have been removed. I do not recall the names of the articles that were in here yesterday evening, but it does not really matter. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:52, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete The lack of an article on this genre shows we should not have such a category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:03, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, and we may consider deleting as well other creations of the same contributor. Oh, I see these have been nominated in Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 26. Place Clichy (talk) 04:00, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. The test that a category has to meet is not "there are films like this that exist", or that "there are going to be more" — to warrant creation of a "genre films" category, "religious horror comedy" would have to be established and critically analyzed as an externally recognized genre of film that reliable sources have already assigned the films to for us. But that hasn't been demonstrated here at all. We don't make up our own genres by triple intersecting multiple genres just because a couple of genre-hopping films exist, we follow the genres that film critics have established as being standard recognized genres. Bearcat (talk) 05:38, 20 January 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Eastern AA players

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (Talk) 15:26, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Eastern AA players to Category:Eastern Sports Club footballers
 * Nominator's rationale: C2D for using Eastern Sports Club. Since Eastern Sports Club's basketball team is also (equally?) notable, seem better to use "footballers" as suffix than "players" Matthew hk (talk) 17:30, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Black superheroes

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. While the argument about the "precedent" of Category:Fictional black people has merit, in this case there is the additional precedent of Categories for discussion/Log/2008 September 1, which resulted in the deletion of this category. -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:02, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting black superheroes


 * Nominator's rationale: It was previously agreed upon to not sort heroes by ethnicity and just by nationality. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 16:23, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It would be beneficial if you can link to that agreement. Also, if that it the case, shouldn't Category:Superheroes by ethnicity or nationality changed to Category:Superheroes by nationality. Thanks. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:45, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * See this CfD from 2007 concerning "Category:Black people" and the one linked from that. – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 17:55, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * We do have Category:Fictional black people, so there seems to be a precedent. Brandmeistertalk  23:01, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose Per precedent mentioned by Brandmeister. Though I am far from certain if "black people" counts as an ethnicity. Human skin color is based on gene variations, not on a specific heritage. Dimadick (talk) 12:36, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment, it may make sense to nominate Category:Fictional black people and several of its subcategories together in one fresh nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:12, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete We categorize by ethnicity, not by race. Having a parent category that horribly violates this rule does not mean we should keep this category as well.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:04, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as "black" is not an ethnicity. I also notice that Category:Egyptian superheroes is a grand-daughter category, through Category:African superheroes, which shows the absurdity of it all. Place Clichy (talk) 04:04, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The blackness or non-blackness of Egyptians is an issue that gets outright fighting from some, and not taking the position held by some will get you labled racist.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:52, 6 February 2019 (UTC)


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Roman Catholic churches by city and Churches by city (miscellaneous countries)

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge/Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 17:47, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Aachen to Category:Roman Catholic churches in North Rhine-Westphalia and Category:Buildings and structures in Aachen
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Abu Dhabi to Category:Roman Catholic churches in the United Arab Emirates and Category:Places of worship in Abu Dhabi
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Abu Ghosh to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Israel and Category:Buildings and structures in Abu Ghosh
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Acre, Israel to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Israel and Category:Buildings and structures in Acre, Israel
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Algiers to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Algeria and Category:Buildings and structures in Algiers
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Cuenca, Ecuador to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Ecuador and Category:Cuenca, Ecuador
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Dili to Category:Roman Catholic churches in East Timor and Category:Buildings and structures in Dili


 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Eisenstadt to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Austria and Category:Buildings and structures in Eisenstadt
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Guelph to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Ontario and Category:Buildings and structures in Guelph
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Innsbruck to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Austria and Category:Places of worship in Innsbruck
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Irkutsk to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Russia and Category:Buildings and structures in Irkutsk
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Kafr Kanna to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Israel and Category:Kafr Kanna
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in La Paz to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Bolivia and Category:Buildings and structures in La Paz
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Lamego to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Portugal and Category:Buildings and structures in Lamego and Category:Churches in Viseu District
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Mangualde to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Portugal and Category:Buildings and structures in Mangualde and Category:Churches in Viseu District
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Ningbo to Category:Roman Catholic churches in China and Category:Buildings and structures in Ningbo
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Maracaibo to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Venezuela and Category:Buildings and structures in Maracaibo‎
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Novo Hamburgo to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Brazil and Category:Places of worship in Novo Hamburgo
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Porto Alegre to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Brazil and Category:Buildings and structures in Porto Alegre
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Vitebsk to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Belarus and Category:Buildings and structures in Vitebsk
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches in Wiener Neustadt to Category:Roman Catholic churches in Austria and Category:Buildings and structures in Wiener Neustadt


 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Aachen
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Abu Dhabi
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Abu Ghosh
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Acre, Israel
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Algiers
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Cuenca, Ecuador
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Dili


 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Eisenstadt
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Guelph
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Innsbruck
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Irkutsk
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Kafr Kanna
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in La Paz
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Lamego
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Mangualde
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Maracaibo
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Ningbo
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Novo Hamburgo
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Porto Alegre
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Vitebsk
 * Propose deleting Category:Churches in Wiener Neustadt


 * Nominator's rationale: merge/delete per WP:SMALLCAT, the Roman Catholic churches categories contain only 2 articles, while the parent Churches categories do not contain any article at all, apart from the Roman Catholic subcat. So this is a double merge nomination, for the Churches and the Roman Catholic churches simultaneously. This is a continuation of this earlier nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:03, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Support. I agree with the nominator's rationale. A really paranoid android (talk) 15:34, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose The nominator seems to have decided that per city categories are to be eliminated from Wikipedia (see additional nomination below). I disagree with this point of view. Debresser (talk) 19:53, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * That is definitely a misunderstanding. The only point here is that cities should have enough content to justify a category. Many cities do have enough content so they will not be nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:28, 25 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Support all religion by city should be the exception, not the norm. Few cities will have sufficient articles to warrant such categories. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:01, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Rename all article with Roman Catholic to just Catholic to agree with our article Catholic Church.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:05, 5 January 2019 (UTC)


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Jews and Judaism in country by city

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge as proposed with the expectation that 's concerns will be addressed through the merge process, considering other categories as needed. ~ Rob 13 Talk 10:08, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Jews and Judaism in Egypt by city to Category:Jews and Judaism in Egypt and Category:Jews and Judaism in Africa by city
 * Propose merging Category:Jews and Judaism in South Africa by city to Category:Jews and Judaism in South Africa and Category:Jews and Judaism in Africa by city
 * Propose merging Category:Jews and Judaism in China by city to Category:Jews and Judaism in China and Category:Jews and Judaism in Asia by city
 * Propose merging Category:Jews and Judaism in India by city to Category:Jews and Judaism in India and Category:Jews and Judaism in Asia by city
 * Propose merging Category:Jews and Judaism in Belgium by city to Category:Jews and Judaism in Belgium and Category:Jews and Judaism in Europe by city
 * Propose merging Category:Jews and Judaism in Germany by city to Category:Jews and Judaism in Germany and Category:Jews and Judaism in Europe by city
 * Propose merging Category:Jews and Judaism in Greece by city to Category:Jews and Judaism in Greece and Category:Jews and Judaism in Europe by city
 * Propose merging Category:Jews and Judaism in Poland by city to Category:Jews and Judaism in Poland and Category:Jews and Judaism in Europe by city
 * Propose merging Category:Jews and Judaism in Russia by city to Category:Jews and Judaism in Russia and Category:Jews and Judaism in Europe by city
 * Propose merging Category:Jews and Judaism in Ukraine by city to Category:Jews and Judaism in Ukraine and Category:Jews and Judaism in Europe by city
 * Propose merging Category:Jews and Judaism in Australia by city to Category:Jews and Judaism in Australia and Category:Jews and Judaism in Oceania by city
 * Nominator's rationale: merge as a redundant category layer, these categories contain only 2 or 3 subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:59, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Support. I agree with the nominator's rationale. A really paranoid android (talk) 15:36, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose Having a per country category is a logical layer, and while in some cases there will not be many articles,although there will be many in others, that is not a reason to delete a category, especially one that is part of a tree. Claim of redundancy is not substantiated. Debresser (talk) 19:52, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * This is a misunderstanding. It is not about the number of articles, but about the number of cities. For example Category:Jews and Judaism in Egypt by city only contains Cairo and Alexandria subcategories, these can more easily directly be accessed in Category:Jews and Judaism in Egypt. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:30, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for informing me that this is a misunderstanding. :) However, I don't see the difference, and remain opposed. Debresser (talk) 18:34, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Then why do you oppose this time? If we merge, the parent category will get one more subcategory. Is that a problem? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:08, 30 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Support all Religion by city should be the exception, not the norm. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:03, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Support All This middle layer is not aiding navigation in this case. RevelationDirect (talk) 04:32, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Support We do not need lots of cateogries that consist solely of one or two sub-cats.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:54, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose as proposed, and consider on a case-by-case basis. Merging as proposed would inappropriately clutter the country-level categories and break links to a number of parent categories. For example, categories for Berlin and Hamburg would be out of place directly in Category:Jews and Judaism in Germany, which contains ~20 high-level topic categories (not just geographic subdivisions). Another example: upmerging Category:Jews and Judaism in China by city as proposed would break the connections to Category:Ethnic groups in China by city. While I agree with User:Marcocapelle that there are too many categories involved, I think this is a larger issue with the by-city categorization structure overall. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:53, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I will take care of these details when/if the categories are listed on WP:CFDWM. That is something I always do in case a manual dual or triple merge is needed, because issues like these are actually very common. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:35, 22 February 2019 (UTC)


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