Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 February 26



Category:MARCA

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:03, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting marca


 * Nominator's rationale: Eponymous overcategorization for just one newspaper and its associated television station. This is not enough spinoff content to warrant a category for them -- it would be fine if there were a lot of spinoff content here, but for just two articles that already crosslink each other anyway it's just a navigationally unnecessary WP:SMALLCAT. Bearcat (talk) 21:37, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Principality of Samos

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:History of Samos. There was other content here besides the eponym itself that needed to be moved. Bearcat (talk) 00:01, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting principality of samos


 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, only contains the eponymous article and a subcategory. No need to merge, I have already added the article to Category:History of Samos. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:01, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:History of Samos. Category now has several articles, but there is nothing that would not fit well in that. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:30, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Principality of Pereyaslavl

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:45, 13 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting Category:Principality of Pereyaslavl
 * Propose deleting Category:Principality of Novgorod-Seversk‎
 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, the categories only contain the eponymous article and a subcategory. No need to merge, I have already added the articles to Category:Subdivisions of Kievan Rus'. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:31, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * 'Question: and what's proposed to be done with the Category:Princes of Pereyaslavl and Category:Princes of Novgorod-Seversk‎ subcategories? Bearcat (talk) 00:06, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * They are in Category:Princes in Rus' and are perfectly fine there. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:25, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Ukrainian medical doctors

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:49, 13 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Ukrainian medical doctors to Category:Ukrainian physicians
 * Nominator's rationale: To align with the subcategories Category:Ukrainian women physicians, Category:Ukrainian physicians by century and Category:20th-century Ukrainian physicians (and Wikipedia Commons). While "medical doctors" is the term used in many English-speaking and British or ex-British countries, this does not apply to the Ukraine. Hugo999 (talk) 00:35, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The vast majority of Category:Physicians by nationality are physicians. We should be consistent unless there is good reason not to be, otherwise we are giving the impression that physicians and medical doctors are in some way to be distinguished from each other. Rathfelder (talk) 14:13, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Category:Ukrainian medical doctors to Category:Ukrainian physicians per C2C, to align with the categories Category:Ukrainian women physicians, Category:Ukrainian physicians by century and Category:20th-century Ukrainian physicians (and Wikipedia Commons) Hugo999 (talk) 08:21, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Recently we had a lot of discussion at CfD about medical doctors versus physicians. I think this requires a full discussion with two options, either rename all Ukrainian categories to physicians or rename all Ukrainian categories to medical doctors. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:34, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The vast majority of Category:Physicians by nationality are physicians. We should be consistent unless there is good reason not to be, otherwise we are giving the impression that physicians and medical doctors are in some way to be distinguished from each other. Rathfelder (talk) 14:13, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose – this was a cfd decision as Hugo999 might recall, so it needs a cfd. Oculi (talk) 22:39, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Will move to full discussion; as I recall the earlier "medical doctors" versus "physicians" was about retaining "medical doctors" categories for British and ex-British countries but that hardly applies to the Ukraine. Hugo999 (talk) 23:54, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted from CFD 2018 February 18 to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Oppose. "Medical doctors" is more known term in post-Soviet states than "physicians". 91.124.81.152 (talk) 16:18, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * [citation needed]. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:18, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose -- This is applying an American definition of "physician" to other parts of the world, where Physician is a hospital speciality, not a general practitioner. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:41, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Physician is a much older term than medical doctor, and we have built an enormous category tree on it. We cant use the term doctor because it is ambiguous.  Neither "Medical doctors" nor "physician" is a Ukrainian word. Rathfelder (talk) 19:30, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. "Physicians" is the parent category. A number of countries use "Medical Doctor" rather than "Physician" as the local usage (as previously decided) but none in continental Europe apart from Gibraltar or in ex-Soviet Central Asia (the "stans"). Neighbours of Ukraine all use "Physician"; Belarus, Hungary, Moldova, Poland, Romania & Russia. PS: A few countries not ex-British use Medical Doctors not Physicians: the Dominican Republic, Iceland, Panama and Saudi Arabia. Hugo999 (talk) 21:50, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Support, Physician is the main article and I have seen no evidence so far that former Soviet states clearly prefer British English over American English. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:01, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Support to match Category:Physicians, per Marcocapelle. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:18, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

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Category:Weather beacons

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:44, 12 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting weather beacons


 * Nominator's rationale: The articles in this category (apart from the eponymous article* which may need to be upmerged) are articles about corporations, buildings, TV channels etc for which having a weather beacon (for a period) is non-defining - the articles (e.g. Näsinneula) don't generally mention the weather beacon in the lede. Note: the article contains a list. DexDor(talk) 12:14, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * and Weather Machine. DexDor(talk) 20:35, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete – I was sure I had modified my comment in the recent discussion to agree with Dexdor on this but I seem not to have saved it. Indeed none of the articles is about a weather beacon. A better name would be 'buildings with weather-related features'. Oculi (talk) 15:47, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * REname -- Category:Buildings with weather beacons or Category:Buildings with a weather beacon to reflect actual content. Weather beacon can still remain as the main article.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:31, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Many of the articles in the category aren't about buildings. DexDor(talk) 20:35, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted from CFD 2018 February 18 to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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Years and decades in Castile

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete per nominator. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:39, 19 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Example
 * Propose merging Category:1127 in Castile to Category:1127 in Europe and Category:12th century in Castile
 * Propose merging Category:1158 in Castile to Category:1158 in Europe and Category:12th century in Castile
 * Propose merging Category:1170 in Castile to Category:1170 in Europe and Category:12th century in Castile
 * Propose merging Category:1179 in Castile to Category:1179 in Europe and Category:12th century in Castile
 * Propose merging Category:1244 in Castile to Category:1244 in Europe and Category:13th century in Castile
 * The full list of nominated categories can be found in this section.
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, mostly just one article per category. This is follow-up on a previous nomination that was supported in principle but considered to be too broad so that country specific details could not be discussed. So here is a first separate country nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:19, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Support but limited to Castile, but at this stage merge to decade in Iberia (covering Portugal, Castile, Aragon and a few other states) and see what that looks like, rather than straight to a Europe category. We can then see what that looks like before merging further.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:37, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Presumably you are then okay with merging to years in Europe? Creating an entirely new category tree for decades in Iberia is quite a different issue. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:20, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted from CFD 2018 February 18 to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Quibble withdrawn -- Sampling suggests that in the medieval period years in Europe (and even an unsplit "years" category) are unlikely to get overpopulated. HoweverI still wonder whether there should not be a third upmerge target: Category:1120s in Iberia (defined as what is now Spain and Portugal).  If this proposed tree proves to have a lot of underpopulated members, we can then delete it.  Peterkingiron (talk) 21:24, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I would be opposed to the creation of Category:1120s in Iberia. Geographic land forms ought not to have a "by year" tree structure. The same goes for the Italian peninsula and the islands of Great Britain, Guinea and Timor. A "by century" structure which mainly draws on the categories of the various political entities within that geographic land form should be adequate. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:40, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose "years in Iberia" - per Laurel Lodged.GreyShark (dibra) 14:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Support all as proposed by nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:12, 30 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Final Fantasy locations

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:06, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Final Fantasy locations to Category:Video game locations
 * Nominator's rationale: Seems like it will be a WP:SMALLCAT for the foreseeable future, category is unnecessary. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:12, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge - Category was bigger many years ago, but is unlikely to ever expand beyond 2 articles anytime in the forseeable future. -- Pres N  13:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Both articles are in categories related to Final Fantasy, so just the one merge seems fine. --Izno (talk) 16:11, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Works about knees

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 09:10, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting works about knees


 * Nominator's rationale: This is a silly category, containing only one sub-cat and a single article, which really doesn't belong in the category, IMO. Just because the word "knee" is in the name of the movie doesn't mean it's "about knees", ferkrisake. Anomalous+0 (talk) 14:11, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:NONDEF. Frankly it seems impossible for a work to be "about knees" unless it's some kind of educational documentary, and I doubt any of those are notable.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:15, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ah, memories of WP:BJAODN... Grutness... wha?   22:42, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete There's no kneed for this category.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 09:15, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Too-shay! :) Anomalous+0 (talk) 04:48, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:DiMuro family (MLB)

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:16, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:DiMuro family (MLB) to Category:Major League Baseball umpires
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, category contains only 3 articles. TM 13:41, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Atomic bombings

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 09:19, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting atomic bombings


 * Nominator's rationale: This is a superfluous and completely unnecessary category. (It is comprised entirely of one subcategory, .) In the event that there is ever another atomic bombing -- perish the thought -- it can be resurrected at that time. (Assuming, of course, that we don't need resurrecting, ourselves... ) Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:04, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete God help us if this category ever becomes something other than a WP:SMALLCAT.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:16, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete nothing in here that can't be adequately covered by the H&N category (thankfully) and/or . Grutness... wha?   00:53, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Great Florida Birding Trail

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Bearcat (talk) 00:07, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting great florida birding trail


 * Nominator's rationale: Being on this trail is non-defining for many/most/all of the places in the category (e.g. Bahia Honda Key and Lemon Bay).  Siesta Beach doesn't mention the trail and Key West Tropical Forest & Botanical Garden doesn't mention birds. Note: Great Florida Birding Trail and List of sites in the South section of the Great Florida Birding Trail may need to be upmerged.
 * For info: Many places-on-trail categories have previously been deleted - e.g. CFD from January. DexDor(talk) 07:17, 26 February 2018 (UTC) (Adjusted DexDor(talk) 08:34, 3 March 2018 (UTC))


 * Delete - There are loads of precedents for deleting categories for places on a road, path or trail. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:26, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Bay Area Rapid Transit stations with ticket exchange windows

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 09:22, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting bay area rapid transit stations with ticket exchange windows


 * Nominator's rationale: Trivial category. Wikipedia is not a travel guide; the presence of a ticket exchange window at a station is not significant enough to justify a separate category. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:15, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. As nominator. Mackensen (talk) 12:07, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:34, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. these stations are NOT different enough, though it is good info for the article, as what can you say in it?2602:304:CFD0:6350:18F2:543C:D101:A0BB (talk) 04:30, 2 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Albums recorded in a home studio
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 * The result of the discussion was: relisting on current date for further discussion. Bearcat (talk) 00:13, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting albums recorded in a home studio


 * Nominator's rationale: This is a really trivial category and its inclusion in indie music seems pretty ropy at best... ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:30, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep – per WP:CATDEF
 * it is a defining characteristic, for the same reason we have a Studio parameter on Template: Infobox album.
 * outside of Home recording, there at least two genres (Lo-fi music and Bedroom pop) explicitly devoted to the process of home-recorded music (Hypnagogic pop also factors in significantly).
 * when an album by a major artist is recorded at home (or any place that is not a commercial studio), the fact is usually (if not should be) mentioned in the lead.
 * it should be noted that this category is preceded by similar cats for more specific locations (i.e. Category:Albums recorded at Abbey Road Studios) --Ilovetopaint (talk) 08:36, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per Ilovetopaint; the parent Category:Indie music has been replaced with Category:DIY culture. —Bruce1eetalk 13:55, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete – it is not defining. I have never seen a policy suggesting that presence in an infobox amounts to 'defining'. Oculi (talk) 18:25, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - in the sample of articles I looked at it was clearly non-defining e.g. not mentioned prominently in the lead. In some cases the songs on the album were recorded in a variety of places and/or (e.g. OK Computer) the definition of "home studio" appears to have been interpreted loosely. Restrict and purge might be an alternative to deletion. DexDor(talk) 06:44, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Restricting to albums primarily recorded in a home studio is reasonable, but I don't see how a manor doesn't count (so long as somebody actually uses it as a home).--Ilovetopaint (talk) 21:28, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Boxers from Kavajë
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge both. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:31, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging:
 * Category:Boxers from Kavajë to Category:Sportspeople from Kavajë
 * Category:Cyclists from Kavajë to Category:Sportspeople from Kavajë (added 17:20, 26 February 2018 (UTC))
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. The one article Andrea Derjaj is already in Category:Albanian male boxers, so no need for dual upmerge. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:02, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * adding Category:Cyclists from Kavajë whose 3 articles are already in Category:Albanian male cyclists. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:20, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:30, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Would you consider nominating (3 articles) as well?--TM 16:48, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * good idea; done. Would you consider adding a !vote? -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:22, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge both per nom.--TM 17:36, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedia:Gender
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Renaming the target would require a further nomination. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:38, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Wikipedia:Men to Category:Wikipedia gender
 * Category:Wikipedia:Women to Category:Wikipedia gender
 * Nominator's rationale: Category:Wikipedia gender is an administration category for pages related to gender on Wikipedia. It is not helpful to further segment it by gender, especially when all three categories are rather lightly populated at the moment. ( @Apokrif: pinging the category creator) -- Black Falcon (talk) 02:42, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep both. Category:Wikipedia:Women is well-populated, and has much room for expansion. The systemic bias against women in en.wp is the focus of a lot of work, and Category:Wikipedia:Women is where it should all be tied together.  I dunno if Category:Wikipedia:Men is capable of so much expansion, but best to keep it for balance. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:31, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree that there is room for expansion, but what is gained by separating pages about systemic bias against women from the broader category for gender on Wikipedia, especially when there are comparatively so few pages related to men. I can see how a split would be helpful if the parent category grows too large, but right now it seems too early to start splitting the category. If kept, the categories should be renamed to Category:Wikipedia men and Category:Wikipedia women, per Category names. Cheers, -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Support per nom, the three categories together have a very limited number of pages, not making it worthwhile to diffuse. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:52, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Support merge within the project structure, there isn't sufficient content or cause to make this division. Gender rules for real content don't apply to project trees. Also, the parent category surely should be Category:Wikipedia:Gender, no? SFB 02:37, 18 April 2018 (UTC)


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Category:American mixed martial artists of Italian descent
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:American sportspeople of Italian descent. Bearcat (talk) 00:20, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:American mixed martial artists of Italian descent to Category:American sportspeople of Italian descent and.
 * Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization by ethnicity. Nothing unique about American MMA artists of Italian descent. TM 01:08, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Question why do you not propose to merge it to Category:American mixed martial artists as well? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:26, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * That was an oversight on my part. I forgot to add the dual merge to the nomination. Thanks for catching it. I've added it to the proposal.--TM 13:39, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge only to Category:American sportspeople of Italian descent. all pages in Category:American mixed martial artists of Italian descent are already in either Category:American male mixed martial artists or Category:American female mixed martial artists (see this Petscan), so no need for dual upmerge to Category:American mixed martial artists. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:32, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


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