Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 January 16



Category:Women who have been crowned king

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Women who have been crowned king to Category:Queens regnant
 * Nominator's rationale: Of the articles in this category, only Jadwiga of Poland was actually crowned as king. The other 5 were Queens regnant, and are already in Category:Queens regnant or its subcats.
 * The label used in Jadwiga's coronation is an interesting, but for all practical purposes Jadwiga was a Queen regnant, and should be categorised as such. Per WP:CAT, en.wp categories are about navigation ... and this single-item category impedes navigation.  Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:47, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Jadwiga's case is certainly an interesting one, and deserving of a note in King (which I have added). Mary, Queen of Hungary was also crowned as a king. It's hardly worth a category of two that will likely never be enlargeable though. Grutness... wha?   00:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge -- I suspect that something has been lost in translation regarding Jadwiga, but I do not know Polish. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:32, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge. The distinction between a queen regnant and a "woman who has been crowned king" hinges less on any defining difference of substance and more on a deficiency of language or translation. It's true that there may have been some sources in the past which called a woman "king" because the language or legal and constitutional conventions of their time didn't allow the concept of a queen being the monarch in her own right rather than the mere spouse or consort of a male monarch, but in actual practice the only substantive distinction between a queen regnant and a female "king" is in the word used, not in what the roles actually entail. Even Jadwiga's article explicitly states that she was given the title king in order to emphasize that she was a queen regnant rather than a queen consort, because she was engaged to be married and people might thus have mistakenly perceived her husband as the real monarch instead of her — so even she doesn't prove the existence of a distinction between queens regnant and female kings. Bearcat (talk) 15:55, 20 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:American inline hockey team stubs

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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge template and delete category (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting american inline hockey team stubs


 * Nominator's rationale: Put together, there's nearly enough articles to justify one stub category for inline hockey teams. Propose upmerging template US-inlinehockey-team-stub to .  Delete . Dawynn (talk) 13:44, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Educational leadership

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 * The result of the discussion was: purge biographies and merge the remainder to Category:Educational administration. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Educational leadership to Category:Educational administration
 * Nominator's rationale: the contents of this category are a jumble of:
 * people who had various diverse roles academic administrators or founders
 * some articles around the topic of educational leadership
 * a hall of fame
 * etc
 * I don't see a clear distinction between the concepts of educational administration, educational management and educational leadership. The choice of terminology seems more driven by changes in fashion than by any substantive difference in the activities involved.
 * So I suggest purging the biogs, and merge the rest. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:03, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * That's fine with me. ~ RichardF (talk) 12:13, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:14, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting patterson belknap webb & tyler


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Unclear what the value of the category is to the project, though possibly of value to Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler.  General Ization  Talk  05:28, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. Promotional (in fact if not in intent) category about a Wikipedia article that is a nine-word stub (which, by the way, should be AfDed). Softlavender (talk) 04:31, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Considerably more than a nine-word stub, and claiming some notable alumni and partners, but I agree about the categories. Grutness... wha?   14:10, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support by lack of content. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * DElete -- This will make an appropriate main article for the "people" category, so that we do not need an eponymous category. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:35, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete – per Peterkingiron. Oculi (talk) 20:52, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler partners

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler people. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:10, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting patterson belknap webb & tyler partners


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Unclear what the value of the category is to the project, though possibly of value to Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler.  General Ization  Talk  05:26, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. Promotional (in fact if not in intent) category about a Wikipedia article that is a nine-word stub (which, by the way, should be AfDed). Softlavender (talk) 04:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Possibly keep, it seems to be a sufficiently defining characteristic in this case. If the parent category is deleted (see below) and this category is kept, it may be parented to Category:People by company in the United States directly. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:57, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler people. One category should be ample for the firm.  If the deletion of articles on NN people empties that, it should of course be deleted.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:40, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge – per Peterkingiron. Oculi (talk) 20:52, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler associates

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler people. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:11, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting patterson belknap webb & tyler associates


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Unclear what the value of the category is to the project, though possibly of value to Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler.  General Ization  Talk  05:26, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. Promotional (in fact if not in intent) category about a Wikipedia article that is a nine-word stub (which, by the way, should be AfDed). Softlavender (talk) 04:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support, while in general we allow people by company categories, it does not seem a defining characteristic in this particular case. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler people. One category should be ample for the firm.  If the deletion of articles on NN people empties that, it should of course be deleted.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:40, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge – per Peterkingiron. Oculi (talk) 20:53, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler people
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:06, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting patterson belknap webb & tyler people


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Unclear what the value of the category is to the project, though possibly of value to Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 05:26, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. Promotional (in fact if not in intent) category about a Wikipedia article that is a nine-word stub (which, by the way, should be AfDed). Softlavender (talk) 04:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support, while in general we allow people by company categories, it does not seem a defining characteristic in this particular case. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:55, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep This and merge in the partners and associates. As long as we have articles on all of them we need a category for them.  It may well be an ADVERT, and if all the people are in fact NN, so that it has no population or only a main article, it can be deleted then.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:38, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep – per Peterkingiron, with whom I agree fully on this matter. Oculi (talk) 20:54, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


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