Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 January 27



Category:Transport industry associations

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:12, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Transport industry associations to Category:Transport organisations
 * Nominator's rationale: Undefined. 4 articles, all of which are better listed in other subcategories of Transport organisations Rathfelder (talk) 21:45, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep, associations is a valid subcategory of organisations and with the alternative merge below the category size will be acceptable. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:00, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Would you like to provide a definitions showing how these associations are different from organisations? Rathfelder (talk) 00:04, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * See Trade association. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:24, 29 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Transport associations by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Transport associations by country to Category:Transport industry associations; keep the rest. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:09, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Transport associations by country to Category:Transport organisations by country
 * Propose merging Category:Transportation associations in the United States to Category:Transportation organizations in the United States‎
 * Propose merging Category:Transport associations in Germany to Category:Transport organisations based in Germany‎
 * Propose merging Category:Transport associations in Canada to Category:Transport organizations based in Canada
 * Nominator's rationale: Overlapping and undefined. The "Transport organisations" tree is much better established; Transport organisations has 119 subcategories, this has 3. Rathfelder (talk) 21:42, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Alternative: merge Category:Transport associations by country to Category:Transport industry associations, in order to remove a redundant container category, but keep associations as a valid subcategory of organisations. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:03, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Happy with that suggestion. Rathfelder (talk) 19:33, 2 February 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Expatriate sportspeople of Iranian descent

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename both. 's suggestion of deletion can be raised in a separate nomination, if he wants to. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:05, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Expatriate sportspeople of Iranian descent to Category:Sportspeople of Iranian descent
 * Propose renaming Category:Expatriate footballers of Iranian descent to Category:Footballers of Iranian descent
 * Nominator's rationale: There are already Category:Iranian expatriate sportspeople and Category:Iranian expatriate footballers; the definition of expatriate seems to be used incorrectly here for descent instead of nationality - these should be renamed and recategorised similar to Category:Sportspeople of Chinese descent. Peter James (talk) 21:22, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Support rename per nom, thank you for the correction.--Bijanii (talk) 21:26, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Categories can be speedily renamed to prevent vandalism with respective articles.--Bijanii (talk) 06:14, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Support renaming per above. Sro23 (talk) 03:39, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:32, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete both - too specific, the categories in is not divided by occupation, nor should it be. GiantSnowman 20:28, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * They should be renamed, similar to Category:Sportspeople of Chinese descent, as stated per nom.--Bijanii (talk) 02:33, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. It is clearly not standard for this category tree. GiantSnowman 10:44, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * By that logic, should ‘Category:English footballers’ and all associated categories also be deleted? Come on now...--Bijanii (talk) 18:02, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support move Per above. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:46, 29 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:English MPs 1571–1572

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:07, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:English MPs 1571–1572 to Category:English MPs 1571
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, the parliament of 1571 was dissolved within the same year. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:04, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * happy to see it merged. Rathfelder (talk) 20:26, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Transportation in Haiti

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge both. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:42, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Transportation in Haiti to Category:Transport in Haiti and
 * Propose merging Category:Transportation disasters in Haiti to Category:Transport disasters in Haiti


 * Nominator's rationale: duplicate category; transport existed before transportation. Suggest keeping alternative spelling as redirect whichever name is chosen. Tim! (talk) 13:27, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:21, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge per nominator. "Transport" is the usual form for nearly all subcategories of, except for a few outliers which are at "transportation" instead — but either way, we never need both "transport" and "transportation" to both exist for the same country. Bearcat (talk) 19:44, 29 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Knollwood Cemetery

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:45, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting knollwood cemetery


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALL. Only has two entries, the article on the cemetery and a subcategory for burials there. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:14, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Mid-Atlantic Christian University

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:40, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting mid-atlantic christian university


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Only has two entries and a subcategory. One entry is the article on the university itself. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:44, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Years and decades by continent (Early Middle Ages)

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 * The result of the discussion was: Relisted at Categories for discussion/Log/2018 February 7. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:40, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Example
 * Propose merging Category:502 in Europe to Category:502
 * Propose merging Category:506 in Europe to Category:506
 * Propose merging Category:507 in Europe to Category:507
 * Propose merging Category:502 establishments in Europe‎ to Category:502 establishments
 * Propose merging Category:506 establishments in Europe‎ to Category:506 establishments
 * Propose merging Category:507 establishments in Europe‎ to Category:507 establishments
 * Propose merging Category:500s in Europe to Category:500s
 * Propose merging Category:500s establishments in Europe to Category:500s establishments
 * Propose merging Category:502 in Asia to Category:502
 * Propose merging Category:503 in Asia to Category:503
 * Propose merging Category:506 in Asia to Category:506
 * Propose merging Category:502 establishments in Asia to Category:502 establishments
 * Propose merging Category:502 disestablishments in Asia to Category:502 disestablishments
 * Propose merging Category:500s in Asia to Category:500s
 * Propose merging Category:500s establishments in Asia to Category:500s establishments
 * The complete list of nominated categories is listed on the talk page
 * Nominator's rationale: merge. First of all, the distinction between Europe and Asia is arbitrary and anachronistic in the Middle Ages. If one would like to make a distinction based on foreign relations in the Middle Ages, the continents would probably look like: 1) Europe, North Africa, West and Central Asia; 2) South Asia; 3) East Asia. Second, we currently only have two continents left with year categories in the Middle Ages, Europe and Asia, which makes the continent layer completely redundant. Third, after merging, the year categories will still be of very modest size.
 * This nomination goes until the year 962, which is the starting year of the years by country tree (see Category:10th-century years by country), which overlaps strongly with the continental trees. This adds another complexity, so the High and Late Middle Ages will be left for a next nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:26, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep misinterpretation of smallcat as these form part of a larger series of establishments by year which extends to the current time period. Using 962 as a cut-off seems extremely arbitrary and it is likely categories will get recreated. Tim! (talk) 13:30, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support all per nom. The distinction between Europe and Asia at that time is indeed arbitrary and anachronistic. The starting year of the years by country tree is a good starting point. Starts to bulk up from then onwards. Laurel Lodged (talk) 19:31, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Keeping Europe and Asia as separate categories would be clearly redundant. Ceosad (talk) 10:29, 29 January 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Regions of Asia by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep, without prejudice to renominating as part of a wider nomination that considers the category tree as a whole. -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:49, 11 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting regions of asia by country


 * Nominator's rationale: Possibly out of scope, orphan category and originally created by a blocked user. 2A02:C7F:9659:4500:D827:7C8E:6CB7:A731 (talk) 09:12, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose plain deletion, if there is no need for continent categories then they should be merged to Category:Regions by country if that would only exist. Siblings should be nominated as well, e.g. Category:Regions of Africa by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:18, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete . Superfluous to Category:Country subdivisions in Asia. All the 1st-level sub-cats of Category:Regions of Asia by country are in the by-country subcats of Category:Country subdivisions in Asia. See Petscan check. (6 were missing, but I just added them). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:16, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Country subdivisions in Asia looks pretty messy. By the way, regarding this edit, Egypt hasn't become part of Asia, has it? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:40, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I refer the honourable gentleman to the Sinai Peninsula. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:02, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * It looks a bit odd to put a whole country in a category while some 95% of its area doesn't belong there. But I notice a similar thing happens with Turkey, equally odd. Probably many discussions have taken place about this issue already, so never mind for now. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:58, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Agree with Marcocapelle: Egypt should be generalized as Africa. Agree with Marco also on the the discussion scope, hence keep for now. gidonb (talk) 00:06, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The nominated category is not superfluous to Category:Country subdivisions in Asia per se, instead it may well become a subcategory of the latter. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:58, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


 * (changing my !vote) Keep for now per 's argument that this is part of a by-continent series whose fate should be considered as a whole. If there is a broader discussion, I think I would probably favour deleting all the "Regions of FooContinent by country" categories per WP:SHAREDNAME. The "regions" here are an assortment of first-level administrative subdivisions, second-level administrative subdivisions, and informal subdivisions; they don't share any common characteristic other than name. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:13, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment -- This should not exist, as the content should be in the Category:Country subdivisions in Asia tree. However this needs to be emptied manually, by finding a new home for all the content in that tree, country by country.  Peterkingiron (talk) 20:25, 9 February 2018 (UTC)


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