Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 July 25



FC Luch-Energiya Vladivostok

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: Renamed though three of the four categories have already been moved by User:Bufo bovem constuprabat and fourth was reverted when a lot of contents were left in a redirect. Please can editors not pre-empt ongoing discussions by moving categories but instead wait for the outcome. Timrollpickering 11:46, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:FC Luch-Energiya Vladivostok to Category:FC Luch Vladivostok
 * Propose renaming Category:FC Luch-Energiya Vladivostok players to Category:FC Luch Vladivostok players
 * Propose renaming Category:FC Luch-Energiya Vladivostok managers to Category:FC Luch Vladivostok managers
 * Propose renaming Category:FC Luch-Energiya Vladivostok templates to Category:FC Luch Vladivostok templates
 * Nominator's rationale: The club was renamed: http://fc-luch.com/glavnaya-komanda-primorya-vernula-sebe-istoricheskoe-imya.html. Geregen2 (talk) 15:16, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Kolozsvár Ghetto

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete per CSD G5 —Bagumba (talk) 16:25, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting kolozsvár ghetto


 * Nominator's rationale: Sole subcat just deleted, creation of banned editor Oculi (talk) 13:47, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Kolozsvár Ghetto inmates

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Expediting considering this qualifies for CSD G5 also. —Bagumba (talk) 13:35, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting kolozsvár ghetto inmates


 * Nominator's rationale: Fewer than 5 pages in category, little prospect for expansion Catrìona (talk) 12:06, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Assassination attempts

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 * The result of the discussion was:  at Categories for discussion/Log/2018 August 9. ℯ xplicit  00:58, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Assassination attempts to Category:Failed assassination attempts
 * Nominator's rationale: This category's page says that te attempt failed, but an "attempt" includes successful assassinations, too. The new name will thus provide clarity as to the scope of the category. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 08:15, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment alternatively, you could just parent the Category:Assassinations with this category. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:05, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Either Carlos' solution, or the nominator can create and populate Category:Failed assassination attempts as a subcategory of Category:Assassination attempts. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:34, 27 July 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Community organizing

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. ℯ xplicit  00:58, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Community organizing to Category:Community building
 * Nominator's rationale: There is way too much overlap in their category trees, and the semantic difference between the two are minimal if not non-existent. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 17:23, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment if I understand the article Community organizing correctly, the concept is closer related to Activism than to Community building. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:09, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯ xplicit 06:08, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Marcocapelle. Catrìona (talk) 12:07, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Perhaps an alternative rename to Category:Grassroots. what do you think about that? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose I'm not sure that is a worldwide term, and thus could contribute to the (U.S.? Canada–U.S.? Anglosphere? Anglophone?) systemic bias. But my biggest concern is its connotations. "Grassroots" is a political buzzword used to promote movements as of pure intentions and reflecting genuine popular support. See also: Of the people, by the people, for the people. In fact, there is even a term for dressing-up fake grassroots movements: Astroturfing. My point is such a category would encourage promotional categorization.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 07:43, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose as per Mr. Guy. Grassroots is not a neutral term. Catrìona (talk) 12:31, 27 July 2018 (UTC)


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Cooperative banking by country

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 * The result of the discussion was:  at Categories for discussion/Log/2018 August 9. ℯ xplicit  00:58, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Cooperative banking by country to Category:Cooperative banks by country (over redirect)
 * Propose merging Category:Cooperative banking in Australia to Category:Cooperative banking in Oceania and Category:Cooperatives in Australia‎
 * Propose merging Category:Cooperative banking in Canada to Category:Cooperative banking in North America, removing the broader page History of cooperatives in Canada
 * Propose merging Category:Cooperative banking in Norway to Category:Cooperative banking in Europe, removing the article Norwegian Savings Banks Association
 * Propose renaming Category:Cooperative banking in the United States to Category:Cooperative banks in the United States


 * Nominator's rationale: these categories have hardly any general content about the topic of cooperative banking, but only articles on banks. The sub-cat Category:Credit unions by country is well-populated, and Category:Mutual savings banks by country has three sub-cats, but those national sub-categories do not need a "Cooperative banking in Foo" layer above them. Some other countries already have categories "Cooperative banks in Foo" and there was a Speedy-page proposal to rename them to "banking", but this was opposed on the grounds that these categories work well as sub-cats of "Banks in Foo". It will be more useful to do away with those that are a redundant layer, and rename others from "banking" to "banks". As for the two articles that I have suggested for removal, I have added "See also" links to these on the sub-category pages. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:31, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That seems a very sensible proposal. Rathfelder (talk) 17:39, 11 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Prefer targets relating to whether they are "mutual savings banks" or "credit unions". Note UK building societies are mutual, but not coops.  They are not the same.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:45, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The mutual savings banks and credit unions categories will be kept as child categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:43, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 06:08, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Irregular military in Lebanon
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 09:16, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Irregular military in Lebanon to Category:Paramilitary organizations based in Lebanon
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, not a clear distinction between this category and its parent. Note that the category has quite recently been nominated for renaming, see this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Support - This category has no reason to exist. Charles Essie (talk) 15:47, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


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