Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 March 23



Category:Community-based organizations

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at Categories for discussion/Log/2018 April 10. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:21, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Community-based organizations to Category:Neighborhood organizations Category:Neighborhood associations
 * Nominator's rationale: Substantial overlap. Hard to see any meaningful distinction.  I'm agnostic about which should be kept. Rathfelder (talk) 21:32, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - the difference is that the vast majority of Category:Community-based organizations are not Category:Neighborhood organizations (whenever the community concerned is not confined to a neighbourhood), as can be seen by inspecting the 2 categories. Oculi (talk) 08:50, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Community organizations, to align with article title Community organization. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:10, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Happy with that proposal.Rathfelder (talk) 10:31, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I too would support a rename to Category:Community organizations (not a merge). Oculi (talk) 12:01, 25 March 2018 (UTC)


 * that sounds fine. --Sm8900 (talk) 17:10, 25 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Sorry, but "Community" is NOT necessarily synonomous or equivalent to "neighborhood," at all. saying that they are is often a Western-based, or middle-class based assumption for this usage.


 * Note: I am okay with the proposal above to rename, if others want that.--Sm8900 (talk) 17:08, 25 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Note: the target for merging has just been speedily renamed to Category:Neighborhood associations. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:48, 30 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Barons de Brus

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at Categories for discussion/Log/2018 April 10. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:52, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting barons de brus


 * Nominator's rationale: This category is unsourced and dubious. Although the Bruces were of Norman-French origin, the details are disputed, and it is unlikely that they held a French title several generations after settling in Scotland.  An alternative would be to rename it to "Lords of Annandale", a title they did hold. PatGallacher (talk) 17:56, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Rename (do not delete). The succession box is headed House of Bruce, which someone has inaccurately renamed to Clan Bruce.  The Bruces were a noble lowland family, not a highland clan.  Possibly Category:Bruce lords of Annandale.  I too am dubious about the idea that they remained French nobles after settling in Scotland, but that is an issue of parenting the category, not of its existence.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:37, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * We could be dealing with several issues at once here. I am not aware that there was ever a Barony of Bruce in the Scottish nobility or feudal structure, at the very least this idea is completely unsourced.  A category "Bruce Lords of Annandale" is not necessarily illegitimate, but we do not normally create sub-cats of holders of a title from a specific family.  "House of Bruce" v. "Clan Bruce" is a legitimate debate, but a separate issue. PatGallacher (talk) 18:47, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Possibly rename to Category:Lords of Annandale without mentioning of the family. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:38, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment This will require a change in scope. Per the article Lord of Annandale, the various holders of the title came from 6 different families: Brus, Comyn, Randolph, Dunbar, Douglas, and Stewart. The last holder of the title was John Stewart, Duke of Albany (d. 1536). Dimadick (talk) 16:26, 26 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Strigeidida

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_April_10. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:32, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting strigeidida


 * Nominator's rationale: Strigeidida has been synonymised to Diplostomida. Yours Truly, HNdlROdU. Signed, 16:38, 23 March 2018 (UTC).


 * shouldn't the category be merged somewhere, instead of deleted? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:54, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * If it needs to be merged, User:Marcocapelle, than it can be merged to Category:Diplostomida. Yours Truly, HNdlROdU. Signed, 21:42, 1 April 2018 (UTC).


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Category:S.League

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:19, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:S.League to Category:Singapore Premier League
 * Propose renaming Category:S.League football club squad templates to Category:Singapore Premier League football club squad templates
 * Propose renaming Category:S.League table templates to Category:Singapore Premier League table templates
 * Propose renaming Category:S.League venues to Category:Singapore Premier League venues
 * Propose renaming Category:S.League players to Category:Singapore Premier League players
 * Propose renaming Category:S.League head coaches to Category:Singapore Premier League head coaches
 * Propose renaming Category:S.League seasons to Category:Singapore Premier League seasons
 * Propose renaming Category:S.League clubs to Category:Singapore Premier League clubs
 * Nominator's rationale: League renamed, see: and main article was moved again by today, but opposed speedy by  in WP:CFDS, thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 11:15, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Support League has been renamed. Number   5  7  11:35, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Support league has been renamed - the S.League official site now states 'Singapore Premier League' as well. GiantSnowman 12:16, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment -- Even if it had not been renamed, we would need to make the change and S.League is highly obscure. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:38, 24 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Videographies of YouTubers

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:46, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting videographies of youtubers


 * Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia has zero videographies of YouTubers. The current pages in this category should be moved to Category:Lists of web series episodes. w umbolo   ^^^  10:25, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - clearly not required at this stage. Störm   (talk)  14:54, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * shouldn't the category also be merged to somewhere in the YouTube tree? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:58, 31 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:YouTubers by genre

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:37, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting youtubers by genre


 * Propose deleting comedy youtubers


 * Propose deleting beauty and makeup youtubers


 * Propose deleting gaming youtubers


 * Nominator's rationale: YouTubers by genre is unnecessary, in one YouTube channel there can more than one YouTubers so how can we call a YouTube channel 'YouTuber' when you don't know who is behind it. Take Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell's example, we don't know how many YouTubers are behind it but we all know it as a YouTube channel that is why it would be appropriate to categorize topic/genre by YouTube channel and nationality by YouTubers. We don't need these categories. Störm   (talk)  06:43, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * This is a confusing nomination. These categories contain biographies rather than channels and consequently Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell is not in any of the four nominated categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:16, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I was talking in broader context to better relate or if needed rename this and other newly created categories. Sorry for the confusion. Störm   (talk)  14:11, 24 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Agree on the nationality part. Although we do know the country of origin of YouTube channels. Since YouTube is based in the U.S., I would make categories like German YouTube channels for all countries except the U.S., because many foreign YouTube channels put the U.S. in their "About" tab. Next, I would categorize YouTubers under YouTube channels because we categorize Television talk show hosts under Television talk shows. If this is done, your proposed deletions can be proced and YouTube channels by topic can be nicely categorized under YouTube channels so we can categorize comedy YouTubers under Comedy YouTube channels. w umbolo   ^^^  09:55, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Just seems like a simple renaming or expansion should be done. Instead of deleting Comedy YouTubers, just create the category of "Comedy YouTube channels", and make the "Comedy YouTubers" cat a subcat of that. Or alternatively, just rename the category to "Comedy YouTube channels". Either way, there should be no deletion of these categories, imo. Soulbust (talk) 14:21, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with Soulbust's opinion to rename above from YouTubers to YouTube channels. What are your thoughts?  Störm   (talk)  14:06, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Rename and recategorize. But delete the Gaming cat. w umbolo   ^^^  14:11, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose renaming. These categories contain biographies rather than channels. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:08, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * We'll remove bios from such classification, this is only for channels. Bios should go into internet personalities or Youtubers by nationality cats. Störm   (talk)  09:48, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Emptying these categories by removing biographies requires a rationale. What is wrong with YouTubers categories with biographies? And why do you not nominate the entire tree of Category:YouTubers? After all this tree is almost completely populated with biographies. Aren't you mixing this up with Category:YouTube channels? Marcocapelle (talk) 19:38, 26 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:SESAC

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted, see here. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting sesac


 * sesac members


 * Nominator's rationale: Too little content and there is no scheme of Category:Rights holders by industry trade group. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:52, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Songs about Libanon

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy deleted as an empty category. There's no need for seven days of debate about a straightforward spelling error that the creator caught and corrected themself, when it can just be speedy deleted under at least two criteria (empty category and/or "Author requests deletion"). Bearcat (talk) 15:29, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * * Propose deleting Category:Songs about Libanon
 * Nominator's rationale:: Spelling mistake. Already corrected with the article Songs about Lebanon, so this misspelled category can be instantly deleted. - User:Kjell Knudde 12:46 23 March 2018 (UTC).


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