Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 November 12



Category:Libertarian organisations

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (every users' !vote was considered only once). Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:04, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Libertarian organisations to Category:Libertarian organizations
 * Nominator's rationale: to match List of libertarian organizations Rathfelder (talk) 23:07, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose - organisations is also a valid spelling. If we are going down this path, we could easily argue "z" should be changed to "z". Leave it as it is, or organise a site-wide forum about which spelling people want to settle on. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 08:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Rename - also per parent . Oculi (talk) 23:38, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Liberal organisations to Category:Liberal organizations
 * Nominator's rationale: to match Category:Political organizations‎ Rathfelder (talk) 23:06, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Support - support 'organization' at every level above country level (following ). Oculi (talk) 09:00, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose - organisations is also a valid spelling. If we are going down this path, we could easily argue "z" should be changed to "z". Leave it as it is, or organise a site-wide forum about which spelling people want to settle on. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 08:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Anti–death penalty organisations to Category:Anti–death penalty organizations
 * Nominator's rationale: to match Human rights organizations Rathfelder (talk) 22:55, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Support - support 'organization' at every level above country level (following ). Oculi (talk) 09:01, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose - organisations is also a valid spelling. If we are going down this path, we could easily argue "z" should be changed to "z". Leave it as it is, or organise a site-wide forum about which spelling people want to settle on. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 08:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * I have combined 3 similar noms. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:04, 14 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose for the reasons I set out in 2 noms of the previous day. This nom is an act of American imperialism.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:04, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support, for consistency. Most organizations categories above country level already have a 'z', so why not all, making category names better predictable? Marcocapelle (talk) 18:28, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Peterkingiron is wrong to see the use of z an act of American imperialism. See American and British English spelling differences. I would very much like to organise a site-wide forum about which spelling people want to settle on. How is that to be done?  Rathfelder (talk) 19:35, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * as the editor who originally came up with the idea of a centraliz/sed discussion, what is your advice? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:30, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Support all. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:50, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Rename all The main article is Organization, and that's stable since 2008. These should follow that, as they are not country-related categories. Armbrust The Homunculus 02:55, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Uniform Resource Locator

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 23:58, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Uniform Resource Locator to Category:URL
 * Nominator's rationale: The main article is URL. "URL" is ambiguous (see URL (disambiguation)), but the meaning found in the article URL is overwhelmingly the primary meaning. I would suspect that many people who would know what URL means would not know what "Uniform Resource Locator" means. I believe that it makes more sense to have the article and category match than have a category name that is 100% unambiguous. Note that a subcategory uses the abbreviation: . (This was opposed at CFD speedy rename.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:45, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Category:Uniform Resource Locator to Category:URL – C2D per URL Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:38, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose "URL" is ambiguous, so this does not meet C2D.  See URL (disambiguation). -- Brown Haired Girl (talk) • (contribs) 13:02, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Note argument about "URL shortening services", however the "shortening services" gives that title context. URL by itself does not, so the current category is more informative, and better suited. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 08:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Creates un-necessary ambiguity. The abbreviation works in the sub-cat, because the extra two words give it context and remove ambiguity; but as a bare title, it is ambiguous. -- Brown Haired Girl (talk) • (contribs) 23:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It's unlikely anyone will think that "URL" in a category name refers to the "upper rostral length of a cephalopod beak" – especially when one considers the category in the context of the parent categories and subcategory. is ambiguous as well, but we don't have a problem using it because it's the overwhelming primary meaning – and it matches the main article London. The same principles can apply here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:39, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, I have struck my oppose. After checking the v low usage of the alternative names, I reckon the other terms are so obscure that I will make an exception to the general principle that category names should be unambiguous. -- Brown Haired Girl (talk) • (contribs) 18:02, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support - the risk of contamination by stray cephalopod beaks seems likely to be low. Oculi (talk) 09:07, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support Cats should match the article title in all cases. UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:05, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe not the category for Tours. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:54, 23 November 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Youth organisations in Europe

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 * The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering 12:34, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Youth organisations in Europe to Category:Youth organizations in Europe
 * Nominator's rationale: to match Category:Youth organizations by continent‎ Rathfelder (talk) 22:42, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Support - support 'organization' at every level above country level (following ). Oculi (talk) 09:02, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * NO"!!!!!!! -- The European spelling follows Latin, French, Swedish and other languages in using the S-spelling. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:06, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose - organisations is also a valid spelling. If we are going down this path, we could easily argue "z" should be changed to "z". Leave it as it is, or organise a site-wide forum about which spelling people want to settle on. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 08:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC)


 * As the United Kingdom is part of Europe, we should be a bit more considerate with European categories. It should probably become part of the RFC that has been announced before, by User:BrownHairedGirl. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * As Category:Organisations based in Europe currently uses "s" consistently, that tree should be considered as a whole. However, it would best be dealt with as part of a wider RFC. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:49, 22 November 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Organisations with royal patronage

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:59, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Organisations with royal patronage to Category:Organizations with royal patronage
 * Nominator's rationale: To match Category:Organizations by establishing entity. Some of the subcats are in the Commonwealth, some aren't. Rathfelder (talk) 22:35, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Support - support 'organization' at every level above country level (following ). Oculi (talk) 09:02, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose - organisations is also a valid spelling. If we are going down this path, we could easily argue "z" should be changed to "z". Leave it as it is, or organise a site-wide forum about which spelling people want to settle on. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 08:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * We have settled on organization and at the global level. Oculi (talk) 11:03, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Rename The main article is Organization, and that's stable since 2008. This should follow that, as it's not a country-related category. Armbrust The Homunculus 02:54, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


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Medical and health organizations by medical specialty

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 * The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering 12:36, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Category:Tropical medicine organisations to Category:Tropical medicine organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Transplant organisations to Category:Transplant organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Toxicology organisations to Category:Toxicology organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:53, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Sports medicine organisations to Category:Sports medicine organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:52, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Sleep medicine organisations to Category:Sleep medicine organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:51, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Rheumatology organisations to Category:Rheumatology organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:51, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Rehabilitation medicine organisations to Category:Rehabilitation medicine organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:50, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Otorhinolaryngology organisations to Category:Otorhinolaryngology organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:50, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Nuclear medicine organisations to Category:Nuclear medicine organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:49, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Intensive care organisations to Category:Intensive care organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Infectious disease organisations to Category:Infectious disease organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Emergency medicine organisations to Category:Emergency medicine organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:47, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Gerontology organisations to Category:Gerontology organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:45, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose all these organisations.  C2C not applicable unless there is a clear convention somewhere, and you don't identify one. -- Brown Haired Girl (talk) • (contribs) 19:37, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Subcats of Category:Medical and health organizations by medical specialty. Rathfelder (talk) 20:01, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support all - Rathfelder created most of these, without which there would be a clear pattern of 'z' in Category:Medical and health organizations by medical specialty. This is 'rename at the author's request'. Oculi (talk) 21:24, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose all -- Both spellings are equally VALID. stop this American Imperialism of imposing US-English on the resat of us.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:08, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose all - organisations is also a valid spelling. If we are going down this path, we could easily argue "z" should be changed to "z". Leave it as it is, or organise a site-wide forum about which spelling people want to settle on. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 08:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Master Of Ninja created Category:Emergency medicine organisations. Rathfelder created all the others. Oculi (talk) 12:11, 24 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Rename, this could have been speedied as User:Oculi correctly points out. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:32, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Rename all. These were opposed as Speedy nominations but could be approved here. IMHO it would be helpful to do so. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:43, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Rename all The main article is Organization, and that's stable since 2008. These should follow that, as they are not country-related categories. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:32, 23 November 2018 (UTC)


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State Emergency Service of Ukraine

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 * The result of the discussion was: procedural close, see Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_November_15. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:38, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Category:State Emergency Service of Ukraine to Category:Emergency services in Ukraine – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 15:47, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose speedy The main article of the category is State Emergency Service of Ukraine. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * State Emergency Service of Ukraine is the only article in the category at present, but all the other entries in the heirarchy are of the form Category:Emergency services in Foo.Rathfelder (talk) 20:13, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Close - Armbrust has thoughtfully created the target as a parent so this is moot. Oculi (talk) 21:24, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment, this category has also been listed three days later, on November 15. The cfm tag on the category page refers to that other discussion. I suppose this discussion can be closed without action. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:33, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


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Category:American Solidarity Party

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:00, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting american solidarity party


 * Nominator's rationale: I started the category in 2016 but I now believe it should be deleted. Category contains only one article that is unlikely to grow. TM 14:49, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * comment and it contains a subcategory as readers will notice Hmains (talk) 03:24, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:35, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


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Potential speedies

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:05, 3 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Rename Category:Anesthesia organisations to Category:Anesthesia organizations
 * Rename Category:Animal rights organisations to Category:Animal rights organizations
 * Rename Category:Audiology organisations to Category:Audiology organizations
 * Rename Category:Collectors organisations to Category:Collectors organizations
 * Rename Category:General practice organisations to Category:General practice organizations
 * Rename Category:Geriatrics organisations to Category:Geriatrics organizations


 * These global categories were all created by the prolific using UK English; see UKian. A switch to Oxford English  - see British English Oxford spelling - would harmonise these with American usage. Each is an isolated instance with no ‘by country’ subcats or subcats using ‘organisation’ and renaming will introduce no inconsistencies anywhere. Each contains some American entities.   'Anesthesia organisations' is particularly awkward. Oculi (talk) 10:59, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes to all these. I have submitted myself to re-education. Rathfelder (talk) 11:01, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Callooh callay. Oculi (talk) 11:12, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Isn't "anaesthesia" the Oxford spelling of the first category? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:11, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Fortunately "Anesthesia" is not a term used very much in the categorization system. Rathfelder (talk) 18:44, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It's a subcat of . Happy to concede that it's a US 'z' in this case. Oculi (talk) 21:28, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * We dont care where the z comes from. Rathfelder (talk) 22:23, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose all and stop this American imperialist tendency to impose a spelling not found in Latin, English (except American English), French, Swedish, etc on the rest of the world. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:10, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support consistency for global categories. DexDor(talk) 19:31, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose all - organisations is also a valid spelling. If we are going down this path, we could easily argue "z" should be changed to "z". Leave it as it is, or organise a site-wide forum about which spelling people want to settle on. If want global consistency we should organise a poll to work out which spelling we want, or more happily let's just go with the flow. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 08:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The use of two different spellings for Organization in categories is a time wasting nuisance. Please read American and British English spelling differences before claiming that this is American imperialism.Rathfelder (talk) 19:40, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I suspect you wanted to reply to Peterkingiron. I claim nothing about imperialism. I just think if we do this, there is technically nothing stopping other users doing the opposite change (z to s). To do this properly, and prevent future edit wars on the topic of z vs s, my feeling is that there should be a policy at a higher level that we agree to use "s" or "z", not just on this topic but similar words that have alternate z/s spellings in the future. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 19:48, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The point is that the 'ize' of Shakespeare, the King James Bible and Samuel Johnson is acceptable globally whereas 'ise' is not. Accordingly global categories should follow . Oculi (talk) 16:33, 16 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Support, in organizations categories above country level the 'z' already dominates. Let's make it consistent. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:07, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support all. I would support harmonising of all national categories to use "z" as well, which would require a centralised discussion. However, these can go ahead if agreed here. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:45, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Rename all The main article is Organization, and that's stable since 2008. These should follow that, as they are not country-related categories. Armbrust The Homunculus 02:53, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


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Categories:2007 in long track to 2010 in long track

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:58, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:2007 in long track to Category:2007 in long track motorcycle racing
 * Category:2008 in long track to Category:2008 in long track motorcycle racing
 * Category:2009 in long track to Category:2009 in long track motorcycle racing
 * Category:2010 in long track to Category:2010 in long track motorcycle racing


 * Nominator's rationale: It is proposed to rename these years to the longer but more descriptive title used for the 2011 year: Category:2011 in long track motorcycle racing Hugo999 (talk) 09:49, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support - I proposed this to the relevant project back in 2016 but got no reply. Still makes sense though.Le Deluge (talk) 13:33, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Redlands Bulldogs basketball

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:57, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Redlands Bulldogs basketball to Category:Redlands Bulldogs men's basketball
 * Category:Redlands Bulldogs basketball players to Category:Redlands Bulldogs men's basketball players
 * Nominator's rationale: Needed to differentiate men’s from women’s teams - more clear and leaves room for future creation of women’s category. Would meet consensus for college sport categories. Rikster2 (talk) 02:05, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Support move. Jweiss11 (talk) 05:20, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support move. This is per consensus.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:11, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Divisiones regionales de fútbol

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:50, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Divisiones regionales de fútbol to Category:Divisiones Regionales de Fútbol
 * Category:Divisiones regionales de fútbol players to Category:Divisiones Regionales de Fútbol players
 * Category:Divisiones Regionales navigational boxes to Category:Divisiones Regionales de Fútbol navigational boxes
 * Category:Divisiones regionales de fútbol clubs to Category:Divisiones Regionales de Fútbol clubs
 * Nominator's rationale: Matching the article name (Divisiones Regionales de Fútbol). MYS <i style="color: red;">77</i> <sup style="color: orange;">✉  19:06, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 19:21, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Support to match parent article name. GiantSnowman 19:23, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support to match parent article. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 21:58, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Rikster2 (talk) 12:58, 22 November 2018 (UTC)


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