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Category:Philanthropic organizations based in Azerbaijan

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:15, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Philanthropic organizations based in Azerbaijan to Category:Charities based in Azerbaijan
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one article, describing an organisation which would be called a charity in other places. I'm not sure whether charity is, or was, a legal status in Azerbaijan, but all our other Philanthropic organization categories are concerned with organisations which collect money and give it away, not those which provide any sort of service. Rathfelder (talk) 20:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep as part of tree. Tim! (talk) 07:10, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment -- There are three articles, one on a philosophical society says it is a Philanthropic organisation. The other two are Foundations and say they are charities.  WP should follow local usage and not impose foreign titles.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:09, 21 October 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Philanthropic organisations based in Namibia

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:14, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Philanthropic organisations based in Namibia to Category:Non-profit organisations based in Namibia
 * Nominator's rationale: No articles in the category. These subcats are generally put in Non-profit organisations categories, of which there is a well established heirarchy. Rathfelder (talk) 20:32, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep as part of tree. Tim! (talk) 07:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Question shouldn't we merge the philanthropic organisations tree into the charities tree? It looks as if they are very closely related. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:00, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Rename to reflect local usage. All three articles use the term "Foundation".  Hence perhaps Category:Charitable foundations based in Namibia.  "Non-profit" is an American tax-related designation.  UK uses "charity".  Other countries will have their own terms, which may need translation.  Maharastra (in India) uses "Philanthropic Foundation", so that this may be the appropriate national term there.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:05, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * As ever words vary in their connotation by time and place but charity is used very widely, even in the USA. Foundation generally seems to mean an organisation which has money and gives it away to good causes. Foundations, generally are legally charities. Philanthropic organisation seems to mean an organisation which collects money and gives it away to good causes. But the definitions, if there are any, are related to legal systems in different countries, so not very hospitable in terms of founding category trees.  I'd be in favour of merging the philanthropic organisations tree into the charities tree, or the foundation tree, as appropriate.  Many of the articles say nothing about the legal basis of the organisation, and there aren't articles explaining the law for smaller countries. Rathfelder (talk) 08:40, 22 October 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Late ancient Christianity

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:09, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Late ancient Christianity to Category:Christianity in late antiquity
 * Nominator's rationale: rename to align with main article Christianity in late antiquity. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:27, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Category:Late ancient Christianity to Category:Christianity in late antiquity – WP:C2D. Chicbyaccident (talk) 13:55, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * There reference is mainly to Category:Christianity in the Middle Ages which was recently renamed as such. The case would be even stronger with the below "late antiquity" propsal, which you don't seem to object to. Would you mind reconsidering your opposing speedy in order to facilitate the maintainance in this case? Chicbyaccident (talk) 20:41, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose. How do we explain to Chicbyaccident that C2D does indeed mean to match a head article of that name, just like it says? -- Brown Haired Girl (talk) • (contribs) 22:09, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Doesn't Christianity in late antiquity formula apply here? Chicbyaccident (talk) 22:15, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I think your oppose on this one is based on a misunderstanding because the article was moved based on an RM. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:55, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It seems that @Chicbyaccident may indavertently have made a valid C2D nomination. However their own expanded rationale above says There reference is mainly to Category:Christianity in the Middle Ages, which is not C2D.  This is  part of nearly 2-year long pattern of this editor making speedy nominations when they either don't understand the criteria or are gaming the system.  This group of renames should be considered together in a full discussion. -- Brown Haired Girl (talk) • (contribs) 18:51, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Interestingly, it seems that Chicbyaccident is permanently blocked on Swedish Wikipedia for similar reasons (I don't know more, I don't read Swedish). Place Clichy (talk) 15:42, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I have removed the speedy nominations of Category:Ancient Christianity, Category:Early Modern history of Christianity and Category:Late Modern history of Christianity as invalid and stale. Meanwhile would you withdraw your opposition to this one, or do you think the group should only go forward together? – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:42, 16 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment -- I think the common term is "late antique": hence Category:Late antique Christianity. This is a transitional period in the East between Roman and Medieval.  The equivalent in Ireland is "early Christian"; in Britain "Dark Age".  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:12, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The noun Late Antiquity also exists. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:07, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Shouldn't the nom then be changed to Category:Christianity in Late Antiquity ?Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:27, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Possibly, that is a trade-off between the capitals of Late Antiquity and the non-capitalized Christianity in late antiquity. Lowercase is often preferred, but I do not know about this particular instance. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I have no particular preference for capitalisation or not. You speak better English than I do. Chicbyaccident (talk) 13:08, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The article is actually at Late antiquity (no capitals), apologies for the confusion I unnecessarily created. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:33, 4 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Neither "late antiquity" nor "classical antiquity" need to or should be capitalised. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:09, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


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Category:People associated with oil shale

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 * The result of the discussion was:  at 2018 NOV 6 CFD. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:08, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People associated with oil shale to Category:Oil shale researchers
 * Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content, and per WP:OCASSOC. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:40, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment. Not sure if Alexander Carnegie Kirk, Alexander Selligue and Fredrik Ljungström (not included in this category but should be) will fit in this category any more if renamed. They are engineers who developed shale oil extraction technology, not oil shale researchers. Renaming will exclude also oil shale industrialists and business persons if relevant articles would be created in the future. Beagel (talk) 17:52, 22 October 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Historic hotels in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was:  at 2018 NOV 5 CFD. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:20, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting historic hotels in the united states


 * Propose deleting Category:Historic bank buildings in the United States - added 20 October
 * Propose deleting Category:Historic department store buildings in the United States - added 20 October
 * Propose deleting Category:Historic gas stations in the United States - added 20 October
 * Propose deleting Category:Historic warehouses in the United States - added 20 October
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, the characterization of a hotel as 'historic' is subjective when the hotel is not listed as such. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:20, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment:: How does the category for historic hotels in the United States differ from the other categories of Historic bank buildings, gas stations, house museums and warehouses in the United States or from the parent category Category:Historic buildings and structures in the United States; these are all "subjectively" regarded as “historic” but do not have a NRHP or similar local or state listing? Hugo999 (talk) 10:17, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Fair point, I have added four siblings to the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:02, 20 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Strongly Oppose There is no reason to get rid of these categories, as they do not inherently have to contain historical structures that are not listed as such. To get rid of these categories would be nonsensical. SuperChris (talk) 19:02, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Then what are inclusion criteria? Marcocapelle (talk) 18:21, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


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Category:History of the Aztec civilization

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename/merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:11, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:History of the Aztec civilization to Category:History of the Aztec civilization by period
 * Propose merging Category:Years in the Aztec civilization to the above category
 * Propose renaming Category:Establishments in the Aztec civilization by year to Category:Establishments in the Aztec civilization
 * Propose renaming Category:Disestablishments in the Aztec civilization by year to Category:Disestablishments in the Aztec civilization


 * Nominator's rationale: There are no longer any Aztec history categories by year. The purpose of the first category is currently ambiguous with its parent Category:Aztec history. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:13, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Note that the relevant article titles are at History of the Aztecs and Aztec Empire, while Aztec Civilisation redirects to Aztecs, so replacing "Aztec civilization" in the category names by "Aztecs" or "Aztec Empire" could be an option as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:42, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * IIUC, the Aztec Empire (1428–1521) covers only part of Aztec history (fl. from 1300), so "Aztec Empire" would not be right for Category:14th century in the Aztec civilization. As for "Aztecs", I don't think e.g. "Category:16th-century disestablishments in the Aztecs" sounds right; if not Aztec Empire, then I suggest we need to retain the chronology category names using "Aztec civilization". – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:22, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * OK. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:04, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment The chonological element of this is a bloated tree of thin threads, which needs tidying up. I note there is a speedy rename proposal invovled: perhaps we should await its outcome.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:17, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The speedy rename of the parent category has already been implemented, it is now Category:History of the Aztecs, but that does really make a difference considering the earlier expanded argumentation of the nominator. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:39, 22 October 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Parks in Barisal

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:26, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Parks in Barisal to Category:Parks in Bangladesh
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Only one article, and little prospect of significant expansion, since the head article Barisal mentions only 2 other parks. Brown Haired Girl (talk) • (contribs) 15:29, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Winter Olympic venues by year

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to ALT version specified. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:18, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Winter Olympic venues by year i.e. Category:2018 Winter Olympics venues to Category:2018 Winter Olympic venues, and back to 1924 i.e. Category:1924 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1924 Winter Olympic venues. Also all intermediate years (1928, 1932, 1936, 1948, 1952, 1956, 1960, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010; & 2014: all tagged).


 * Category:1924 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1924 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1928 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1928 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1932 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1932 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1936 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1936 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1948 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1948 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1952 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1952 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1956 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1956 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1960 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1960 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1964 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1964 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1968 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1968 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1972 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1972 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1976 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1976 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1980 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1980 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1984 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1984 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1988 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1988 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1992 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1992 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1994 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1994 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:1998 Winter Olympics venues to Category:1998 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:2002 Winter Olympics venues to Category:2002 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:2006 Winter Olympics venues to Category:2006 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:2010 Winter Olympics venues to Category:2010 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:2014 Winter Olympics venues to Category:2014 Winter Olympic venues
 * Category:2018 Winter Olympics venues to Category:2018 Winter Olympic venues


 * Category:1924 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1924 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1928 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1928 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1932 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1932 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1936 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1936 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1948 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1948 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1952 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1952 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1956 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1956 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1960 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1960 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1964 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1964 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1968 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1968 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1972 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1972 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1976 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1976 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1980 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1980 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1984 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1984 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1988 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1988 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1992 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1992 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1994 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1994 Winter Olympics
 * Category:1998 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 1998 Winter Olympics
 * Category:2002 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 2002 Winter Olympics
 * Category:2006 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 2006 Winter Olympics
 * Category:2010 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 2010 Winter Olympics
 * Category:2014 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 2014 Winter Olympics
 * Category:2018 Winter Olympics venues to Category:Venues of the 2018 Winter Olympics
 * Category:2022 Winter Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 2022 Winter Olympics


 * Category:1896 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1896 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1900 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1900 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1904 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1904 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1908 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1908 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1912 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1912 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1920 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1920 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1924 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1924 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1928 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1928 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1932 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1932 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1936 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1936 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1948 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1948 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1952 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1952 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1956 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1956 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1960 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1960 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1964 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1964 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1968 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1968 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1972 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1972 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1976 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1976 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1980 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1980 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1984 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1984 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1988 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1988 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1992 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1992 Summer Olympics
 * Category:1996 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 1996 Summer Olympics
 * Category:2000 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 2000 Summer Olympics
 * Category:2004 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 2004 Summer Olympics
 * Category:2008 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 2008 Summer Olympics
 * Category:2012 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 2012 Summer Olympics
 * Category:2016 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 2016 Summer Olympics
 * Category:2020 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 2020 Summer Olympics
 * Category:2024 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 2024 Summer Olympics
 * Category:2028 Summer Olympic venues to Category:Venues of the 2028 Summer Olympics


 * Nominator's rationale: While only the 2022 category (Category:2022 Winter Olympic venues) uses "Olympic" rather than "Olympics"; all the Summer Olympics use "Olympic". Hence it seems preferable to change (e.g. to Category:2018 Winter Olympic venues etc.) so as to have the same format as for the Summer Olympics (see e.g. Category:2016 Summer Olympic venues). Hugo999 (talk) 10:57, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Support per nom.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 11:14, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose For me, the word "Olympics" should stand as a plural. I think for example "2018 Winter Olympic venues" looks wrong as it contains the familiar name "2018 Winter Olympics" but with the 's' missing, so it just looks unfinished. "2018 Winter Olympics venues" seems correct as it describes venues of the "2018 Winter Olympics". Personally I'd prefer to see all the summer categories changed to "???? Summer Olympics venues". I can see that the singular version matches the idea of an "olympic venue" in which the word 'olympic' is an adjective describing the venue, but I think it's more important to retain the familiar plural word "Olympics" in this case. An alternative suggestion would be renaming to "Olympic venues of the 2018 Winter Olympics" but this might seem too wordy. Rodney Baggins (talk) 10:22, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Further comment While the possessive "Olympics" applies to events so Category:2018 Winter Olympics events as the events are part of the Olympics; the Olympic venues do not belong to the Olympics, but are associated with a particular Olympics; hence the category Category:2016 Summer Olympic venues (with "Olympic" not "Olympics") for venues associated with that Olympics. Hugo999 (talk) 02:05, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * In which case why not just call it "Category:2016 Olympic venues" or "Category:Venues of the 2016 Summer Olympics" Rodney Baggins (talk) 05:43, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Good Ol’factory (talk) 12:05, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support ALT rename to, etc. 185.146.122.95 (talk) 11:24, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Rename all per nom, to match the format used in Category:Summer Olympic venues by year. Whatever the merits of either option, inconsistency helps nobody. -- Brown Haired Girl (talk) • (contribs) 06:20, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * changing my !vote Support ALT rename to, , etc. That also creates consistency, but also preserves the "YYYY Summer Olympics"/"YYYY Winter Olympics" format used in nearly all by-year Olympics categories, which has allowed me to build a set of category header templates at Category:Winter Olympics category header templates. The singular form "olympic" would break this. (I came back here after creating Template:YYYY Winter Olympics venues category, which currently hiccups at the inconsistency, and would break if the singular form was used.  please would you consider switching your support to the ALT version, to retain that consistency of plural which allows navigation Template:Winter Olympics by year category navigation? -- Brown Haired Girl (talk) • (contribs) 21:59, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds fine to me - support that.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:11, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Adding venues of the Summer Olympics, and 2022, for ALT proposal
 * alt rename "Venues of the xx Olympics" - seems like an acceptable compromise for both sides. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 13:57, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:27, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support ALT rename for consistency. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:05, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support ALT rename per Fayenatic london. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:39, 4 November 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Workhouses in Scotland
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:24, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Workhouses in Scotland to Category:Scottish poorhouses
 * Nominator's rationale: Terminology was different in Scotland Rathfelder (talk) 09:23, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment - the nom's case would be greatly improved by the mention of the article Scottish poorhouse. Oculi (talk) 09:41, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Poor law unions in Dorset
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:23, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Poor law unions in Dorset to Category:Poor law unions in England‎
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one entry. No other categories for counties. Not likely to expand much. Rathfelder (talk) 09:21, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedia categories named after English composers
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to both Category:Wikipedia categories named after British composers and Category:Wikipedia categories named after English musicians. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 15:40, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Wikipedia categories named after English composers to Category:Wikipedia categories named after British composers
 * Nominator's rationale: Diffusing from British to English for this scheme for eponymously-named categories seems unnecessary right now. These are only created to give a parent to such categories and until there are hundreds in 'British composers', I see no need for such diffusion. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 05:02, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Upmerge - also to other parent Category:Wikipedia categories named after English musicians. Agree fully with nom. Besides, I doubt if Handel considered himself English. Oculi (talk) 13:05, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Double merge per Oculi. Nominator, please consider all parent categories in future, and avoid making nominations for a one-sided merge without justification. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:29, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Geez, I agree with Oculi, too. Forgive me for failing to include both parents. This is why we have these discussions. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 21:13, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Agree; Handel was a naturalised British subject (1727), although it could be argued that Thomas Tallis (16th century) was too early to be regarded as British (18th century on) Hugo999 (talk) 10:29, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support -- This will make a category of 11 items, which is OK. Great Britain existed before it was politically united, so that I see no problem regarding Tallis.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:20, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support There is no reason to needlessly shrink and separate sections like this when a larger category will serve effectively the same purpose. SuperChris (talk) 19:00, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


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