Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 September 5



Category:Films by Usama Mukwaya
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Category:Bangladeshi medical academics
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Category:Fan family

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 12:09, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fan family


 * Nominator's rationale: Indiscriminate grouping of individuals with the surname Fan, from 500BC to the present, with no familial relationship demonstrated. Most/All of them are already listed at Fan (surname). Timmyshin (talk) 21:21, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:17, 13 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Dangerous Ground (South China Sea)

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:02, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting dangerous ground (south china sea)


 * Nominator's rationale: Odd cat with single entry. Entry should be in parent categories and already is, this has no need to exist as a separate category. JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 20:09, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment: this category could easily be populated with 30 pages on islands, reefs and atolls within the area that have Wikipedia articles, as listed in the main article Dangerous Ground (South China Sea). Even though that page states that "navigational charts… do not completely agree with each other as to the boundary", it appears to me that this category could be a useful complement to the sub-cats by type within Category:Spratly Islands. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:51, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I don’t think that makes sense; I can’t remember how I came across this but in my time looking at articles on WP and news coverage of the South China Sea I have never come across it before. The islands, atolls etc. of the Sea are identified by the Sea, by the grouping (Spratly Is. etc.), and by the claims and counter claims associated with them. None are known by being "in Dangerous Grounds". It seems to be a navigation feature, i.e. of interest to ships navigating the region, but not used to categorise and identify islands etc. within it.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 12:36, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Simply delete -- The main article is very well categorised, so that we do not need to merge. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:19, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per extra clarification of nominator. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 13 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:African lions

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:52, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:African lions to Category:Lions and Category:Felids of Africa
 * Nominator's rationale: With only 22 articles in/below Category:Lions and only 19 in/below Category:Felids of Africa this subcategory is unnecessary.  This category doesn't follow the normal naming convention for such categories - e.g. see Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_December_18 and Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_August_25. DexDor(talk) 19:51, 5 September 2018 (UTC) Revised DexDor(talk) 19:28, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment: this has three other parent categories, which appear relevant. Also, the first precedent quoted above would suggest renaming to Category:Lions of Africa rather than merging. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:43, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I've adjusted the nom to also upmerge to the felids category. This category shouldn't be under a sub-saharan or vulnerable category so any placing of the articles in those categories should be done manually. DexDor(talk) 19:35, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Support- most lion subspecies/populations are located in Africa, and according to the latest revisions, there is only two or three subspecies, two of which are definitely in Africa (the possible third is the Asiatic lion). Any other subspecies are either fossils, invalid, or debatable. The three other parent categories could easily apply to article:Lion.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 15:37, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Vice presidents of Greece

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 * The result of the discussion was:  at 2018 OCT 4 CFD. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:55, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting vice presidents of greece


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT: there was ever only one person to hold this position. Constantine  ✍  18:19, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep SMALLCAT doesn't apply to well-laid out trees, which IMHO, Category:Vice presidents by country satisfies. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 02:15, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete The office was not notable, existed for only 6 month under very challengeable legal conditions. I'd say it was more of a title given to a member of the military junta than an actual position, and is not in any way on par with the rest of Category:Vice presidents by country or, say, Category:Deputy Prime Ministers of Greece. Place Clichy (talk) 16:17, 11 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:TV articles of unclear notability

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:56, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:TV articles of unclear notability to Category:Television articles with topics of unclear notability
 * Nominator's rationale: For consistency with other notability categories by topic area (e.g. Category:Film articles with topics of unclear notability). That all such categories, including this one, are broken is irrelevant as that can be fixed by a template editor or an administrator; see Template talk:Notability. – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 17:40, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment -- This is (I hope) a hidden maintenance category, appearing on the talk page. In such categories the objection to use of an abbreviation is less important than in a substantive one.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:01, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Safranin dyes

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Safranin dyes to Category:Azin dyes
 * Nominator's rationale: This category is 13 years old and has never held more than one article. It is simply unnecessary overcatorization and can be upmerged to its parent. ChemNerd (talk) 11:13, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Eurhodin dyes

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Eurhodin dyes to Category:Azin dyes
 * Nominator's rationale: This category is 13 years old and has never held more than one article. It is simply unnecessary overcatorization and can be upmerged to its parent. ChemNerd (talk) 11:12, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:02, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:People associated with the Hanseatic League

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 * The result of the discussion was:  delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:45, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting people associated with the hanseatic league


 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCASSOC and it is a hodgepodge of unrelated people, including Norwegians at war with the Hanseatic League, including people representing the three German Hanseatic Cities long after the Hanseatic League had faded away. Originally I thought purging and renaming to Category:Merchants of the Hanseatic League might be an option, but that would only leave a very small category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:56, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete some of those categorized here are hardly merchants (e.g., Johann Smidt, a pastor who's claim to notability - notoriety? - was his attempt to expel the Jews from Bremen). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 02:19, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * At least purge -- While three cities were in theory still members after 1669, in practice it never met and was effectively defunct. We might have a category for merchants, captains and councillors serving the Hanse, but better to categorise them by their cities and the cities as members of the Hanse.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:28, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Organizations in the Yishuv

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete and merge contents as described. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:47, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting organizations in the yishuv


 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT and move the one article to Category:Yishuv. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment to the nomination would remove Category:Jewish organizations in Mandatory Palestine from Category:Yishuv, which does not seem a correct outcome to me. Ah, I see that that sub-cat was recently created by yourself, and presumably you populated it from the nominated category. In effect, you seem to be replacing Category:Organizations in the Yishuv with Category:Jewish organizations in Mandatory Palestine, and have left out that one article Jewish National Fund because the JNF was founded pre-Mandate; for the record, is that right? – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:06, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes but not deliberately. I created Category:Jews and Judaism in Mandatory Palestine and Category:Jewish organizations in Mandatory Palestine for the sake of moving out non-biographical content from Category:Jews in Mandatory Palestine and then discovered, merely accidentally, that nearly all content of Category:Organizations in the Yishuv would also fit there. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:20, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:American adult animated television programs featuring anthropomorphic characters

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:49, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:American adult animated television programs featuring anthropomorphic characters to Category:American animated television programs featuring anthropomorphic characters and Category:American adult animated television series
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary and non-defining intersection of two unrelated categories. It's questionable whether the target Category:American animated television programs featuring anthropomorphic characters is even really necessary at all, but it certainly doesn't need a separate subcategory to isolate the adult animation from the rest of it. Bearcat (talk) 18:27, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯ xplicit 03:55, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:American animated television programs featuring anthropomorphic characters, and selective manual merge (e.g. by using WP:PetScan) to ensure that all the contents remain within Category:American adult animated television series or its other sub-cats. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:32, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:National Heroes of Barbados
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:44, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:National Heroes of Barbados
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:TOPTEN and WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
 * In 1998, Barbados celebrated a centenary and created a top ten list (there's literally 10) of influential figures from Barbados' history. Other than sainthood, awards given out decades after a person's death are rarely defining and this category is already listified here.RevelationDirect (talk) 00:37, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: Notified Ser Amantio di Nicolao as the category creator. – RevelationDirect (talk) 00:37, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * Keep OCAWARD has an exception for the most notable ones, particularly Nobel laureates. This is the state's selection of 10, not that of a random person.  We have been deleting national awards given to foreign dignitaries for diplomatic reasons and those given to 1000s of people, but this is different.  There is no possibility of expansion.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:40, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete, these are not even actual awards. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 03:55, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, the list at Barbadian National Heroes is sufficient. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:35, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Changed vote -- In view of others' votes, I will not oppose deletion. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:55, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


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Category:Queer
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