Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 August 25



Category:People from Love Valley, North Carolina

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:09, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Love Valley, North Carolina to Category:People from Iredell County, North Carolina
 * Nominator's rationale: Tiny one county community with just one entry. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:45, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't see any issue with merging the one person into the Category:People from Iredell County, North Carolina. There will probably not be many people from Love Valley on Wikipedia, given Love Valley's size and history.   It is mainly a one man town.  G. Moore talk  00:48, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:58, 4 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Listed buildings and structures
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Category:Sports equipment manufacturers

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 14:52, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting sports equipment manufacturers


 * Nominator's rationale: I can discern no meaningful difference between this category and Category:Sporting goods manufacturers. This category's description suggests that it should contain "companies or brands" whereas the other should contain "organisations", but that is not the case in practice. All members of this category also appear in either Category:Sporting goods manufacturers or one of its country-level subcategories, so nothing will be lost through deletion. (Pinging the category's creator, User:Raavimohantydelhi) -- Black Falcon (talk) 21:31, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Support No useful distinction between equipment and goods in this context.Rathfelder (talk) 21:44, 26 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Football manufacturers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:02, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Football manufacturers to Category:Association football equipment manufacturers
 * Nominator's rationale: I am ambivalent about categorizing sporting goods manufacturers by sport due to the fact that many manufacture goods and equipment for multiple sports. However, for now, I am only proposing to rename this category to bring it in line with the naming conventions of its parents. (Pinging the category's creator, User:Raavimohantydelhi) -- Black Falcon (talk) 21:09, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Wouldnt they be better called Ball manufacturers and linked to Category:Balls Rathfelder (talk) 12:34, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I think this would be non-defining. Are any sporting goods manufacturers defined by their production of balls as opposed to other types of sporting equipment/gear/products? For example, Adidas manufactures footballs, but it is one of countless products and hardly a defining feature of the company. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:10, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Sporting goods manufacturers, none of the manufacturers in this category really specializes in association football. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:24, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I would be supportive of this, too. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:10, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I think merging is the better option. Rathfelder (talk) 13:10, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians interested in the French Empire
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Category:Molten Corporation

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting molten corporation


 * Nominator's rationale: There is not enough content at this time to support an eponymous category. Currently, the category contains only 2 articles: the main article about the company and an article about one of its products. Both articles are already otherwise categorized, so upmerging is not required. (Pinging the category's creator, User:Le Deluge) -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:00, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:13, 27 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception
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Category:Patronal Medal winners
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Category:Yugoslav Partisan Crimes after World War II in Zagreb

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting yugoslav partisan crimes after world war ii in zagreb


 * Nominator's rationale: See Articles for deletion/List of people killed by Yugoslav Partisans after World War II in Zagreb - more or less the same arguments apply here. Only Gračani massacre actually belongs in this category, the other three entries are spurious. GregorB (talk) 10:48, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Support, too narrow topic. We already have Category:People killed by Yugoslav Partisans, with a broader scope. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:52, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:House Order of Fidelity

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. No objections after almost 2 months (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:09, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:House Order of Fidelity to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Baden
 * Propose merging Category:Military Karl-Friedrich Merit Order to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Baden
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only contains an eponymous article and a subcategory each. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:00, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

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Category:Family Order of Terengganu

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. No objections after almost 2 months (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:09, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Family Order of Terengganu to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Terengganu
 * Propose merging Category:Royal Family Order of Terengganu to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Terengganu
 * Propose merging Category:Order of Sultan Mahmud I of Terengganu to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Terengganu
 * Propose merging Category:Order of Sultan Mizan Zainal Abidin of Terengganu to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Terengganu
 * Propose merging Category:Supreme Royal Family Order of Terengganu to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Terengganu
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only contains an eponymous article and a subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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 * Comment: If merged, the subcats should probably be grouped under a mid-level container, probably Category:Recipients of orders, decorations, and medals of Malaysia. --Paul_012 (talk) 23:06, 25 August 2019 (UTC) Done. --Paul_012 (talk) 23:16, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


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Dutch awards

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. No objections after over a month (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:10, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Order of Saint John in the Netherlands to Category:Orders of chivalry of the Netherlands Category:Orders of chivalry of the Netherlands (target was renamed per Categories for discussion/Speedy)
 * Propose merging Category:Order of the Crown (Netherlands) to Category:Orders of chivalry of the Netherlands Category:Orders of chivalry of the Netherlands
 * Propose merging Category:Order of the Gold Lion of the House of Nassau‎ to Category:Orders of chivalry of the Netherlands Category:Orders of chivalry of the Netherlands, to Category:Orders of knighthood of Luxembourg and to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Imperial Germany
 * Propose merging Category:Order of the House of Orange to Category:Orders of chivalry of the Netherlands Category:Orders of chivalry of the Netherlands
 * Propose merging Category:Order of the Netherlands Lion to Category:Orders of chivalry of the Netherlands Category:Orders of chivalry of the Netherlands
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, each of the categories only contains the eponymous article and a subcategory of recipients. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

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Imperial German awards

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. MER-C 14:55, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Order of Parfaite Amitié to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Imperial Germany
 * Propose merging Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Lippe to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Imperial Germany
 * Propose merging Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Reuss to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Imperial Germany
 * Propose merging Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Weimar to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Imperial Germany and Category:Grand Duchy of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, each of the categories at most contains the eponymous article and a subcategory of recipients. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

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 * Comment -- ~These appear to be awards of German states, not of Imperial Germany itself. I would suggest Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of German States.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:00, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

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 * Comment, I am neutral about the beforementioned suggestion to rename the target Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Imperial Germany, but please bear in mind that this category has not been nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:40, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Montreal Screwjob
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 14:52, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting montreal screwjob


 * Nominator's rationale: Too little content--five of these are just redirects to the main article. Just include a see also section and Upmerge to parents as appropriate. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:55, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * Support, apart from the eponymous article, Hitman Hart: Wrestling with Shadows is the only article that really belongs here. That is too little to keep the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:58, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Interest user templates
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 14:49, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Interest user templates to Category:Userboxes
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge into Category:Userboxes, as separation is unnecessary. I will move subcategories shortly, the userboxes will be moved as part of WikiProject Userboxes "Diffuse" task. —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * Can you provide additional context for why you think the separation is unnecessary? Also, please do not depopulate the category while the discussion is open, as it makes it much harder to evaluate the claim that "separation is unnecessary". For example, what did Category:Userboxes look like before you moved the subcategories? Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:20, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * An easy example to answer both questions would be Category:Location user templates. It was never part of Category:Interest user templates. I posit that it would be much easier for a user to find in Category:Canada user templates, than in Category:Interest user templates. Even though there is Category:Regional interest user templates*, which was part of Category:Interest user templates. Trying to keep "interest" user templates categories organised will only lead to unnecessary duplication of every topic category from  Category:Userboxes in tree under Category:Interest user templates. The end goal is to have user templates category tree to just roughly mimic tree of Category:Wikipedia templates by topic, without having an "interest" category for every "plain" category. *Footnote: there is a plan to greatly simplify the location userboxes category tree by improving tree of Category:User templates by country‎.
 * Full answer to your second question: before depopulation of Category:Interest user templates, it contained following user templates categories: comedy, fantasy, fashion, food, regional activity, regional interest, international organization, fandom, sports, computer-related, media, occupation, transport, travel, weapons, history, horticulture, philosophy, scouting, political.
 * Just to clarify: this upmerge discussion is part of an effort by WikiProject Userboxes to better organize categories of user templates. —⁠andrybak (talk) 08:21, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for providing this information and the links. Looking at the list, I agree that "interest" is being applied too broadly, but I am not sure if it is entirely without use. As I do not, unfortunately, have the time right now to delve into this more deeply, I will defer to you and others who are able to give it more consideration. -- Black Falcon (talk) 02:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose, moving subcategories from Category:Interest user templates to Category:Life user templates, as happened here, is not solving any problem. This category is about interest and "life" is too general to be a reasonable substitute. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:38, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * just to clarify: not all categories were moved to Category:Life user templates. For example, Category:Comedy user templates was moved to Category:Arts user templates, and for Category:Transport user templates it was just left with Category:Technology user templates. —⁠andrybak (talk) 14:33, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I see. Still I think that interest is a fine sibling category of location, humor and a few other things that are unrelated to interest. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:22, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Support I have never liked Category:Interest user templates, it would make better sense to upmerge to Category:Userboxes.Catfurball (talk) 19:22, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

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Category:Power companies by continent
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:10, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Power companies by continent to Category:Electric power companies by continent
 * Propose renaming Category:Power companies of Africa to Category:Electric power companies of Africa
 * Propose renaming Category:Power companies of Asia to Category:Electric power companies of Asia
 * Propose renaming Category:Power companies of Europe to Category:Electric power companies of Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Power companies of North America to Category:Electric power companies of North America
 * Propose renaming Category:Power companies of Oceania to Category:Electric power companies of Oceania
 * Propose renaming Category:Power companies of South America to Category:Electric power companies of South America
 * Nominator's rationale: Makes the scope clearer, and in particular the distinction between these and Category:Energy companies. Rathfelder (talk) 07:32, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Support - this would be a speedy following the cfd of 2006 (one of the slower speedies, 13 years on). Oculi (talk) 09:20, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename per the cfd of 2006. Speedy rename also all relevant subcategories and sub-subcategories. Beagel (talk) 12:07, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * support this seems reasonable and helpful for readers Hmains (talk) 03:04, 31 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Power companies by country
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:10, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Power companies by country to Category:Electric power companies by country
 * Nominator's rationale: Makes the scope clearer, and in particular the distinction between these and Category:Energy companies. If this is accepted all the subcategories would need to be speedily changed to match, and articles moved to the proper category. Rathfelder (talk) 07:32, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Support  per above. Oculi (talk) 09:24, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename per the cfd of 2006. Beagel (talk) 12:08, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * support this seems reasonable and helpful for readers Hmains (talk) 03:04, 31 August 2019 (UTC)


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