Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 August 28



Category:Fred Thompson

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:37, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fred thompson


 * Nominator's rationale: With only one directly related article, this eponymous category is unnecessary per WP:OCEPON. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 21:57, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:19, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Video games with twist endings

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:38, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting video games with twist endings


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF. "If the characteristic would not be appropriate to mention in the lead portion of an article, it is probably not defining." ZXCVBNM (TALK) 19:33, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:33, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Support If it's inappropriate for films (see below), it's almost certainly appropriate enough for video games. DonIago (talk) 18:48, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Coptic Orthodox Christians

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 * The result of the discussion was: do not merge. MER-C 09:42, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Coptic Orthodox Christians to Category:Coptic Christians
 * Nominator's rationale: Categories are synonymous. Coptic Christianity is inherently Oriental Orthodox. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 19:26, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose, there is a smaller Coptic Catholic Church as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose not all Copts are Orthodox. They've copped out. :-) Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:05, 31 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Companies based in Sri Lanka

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:40, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Companies based in Sri Lanka to Category:Companies of Sri Lanka
 * Nominator's rationale: Complete overlap Rathfelder (talk) 18:29, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:21, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Small appliance manufacturers
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Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 08:39, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places by state to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places by state
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Puerto Rico to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Puerto Rico
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Alabama to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Alabama
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Alaska to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Alaska
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Arizona to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Arizona


 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Arkansas to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Arkansas
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in California to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in California
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Colorado to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Colorado
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Connecticut to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Connecticut
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Delaware to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Delaware
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Florida to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Florida
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Georgia (U.S. state)‎ to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Georgia (U.S. state)‎
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Hawaii to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Hawaii
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Idaho to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Idaho
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Illinois to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Illinois
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Indiana to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Indiana
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Iowa to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Iowa
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Kansas to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Kansas
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Kentucky to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Kentucky
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Louisiana to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Louisiana
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Maine to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Maine
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Maryland to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Maryland
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Massachusetts to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Massachusetts
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Michigan to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Michigan
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Minnesota to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Minnesota
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Mississippi to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Mississippi
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Missouri to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Montana to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Montana
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Nebraska to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Nebraska
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Nevada to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Nevada
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in New Hampshire to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in New Hampshire
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in New Jersey to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in New Jersey
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in New Mexico to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in New Mexico
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in New York (state) to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in New York (state)
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in North Carolina to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in North Carolina
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in North Dakota to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in North Dakota
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Ohio to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Ohio
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Oklahoma to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Oklahoma
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Oregon to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Oregon
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Pennsylvania to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Pennsylvania
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Rhode Island to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Rhode Island
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in South Carolina to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in South Carolina
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in South Dakota to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in South Dakota
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Tennessee to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Tennessee
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Texas to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Texas
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Utah to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Utah
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Vermont to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Vermont
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Virginia to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Virginia
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Washington (state) to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Washington (state)
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in West Virginia to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in West Virginia
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Wisconsin to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Wisconsin
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Wyoming to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Wyoming
 * Propose merging Category:Roman Catholic churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Washington, D.C. to Category:Churches on the National Register of Historic Places in Washington, D.C.


 * Nominator's rationale: merge trivial intersections, in a register of historic places the denomination of a church is not very relevant. Also, the parent categories are not diffused by any other denomination than Catholic. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:43, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Also, it is not unheard of that a church building is used sequentially or concurrently by different Christian faiths, which would probably not affect the NRHP status of the building. This makes by-faith categorization of buildings risky. Place Clichy (talk) 18:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Support While a building's nomination can be relevant, I second User:Place Clichy that many churches on the Register, including some Catholic Churches, have passed to other denominations and creates potential problems with categorizing articles. Farragutful (talk) 18:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Taiwanese idol groups
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Category:Singaporean idols

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:38, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting singaporean idols


 * Nominator's rationale: We should not have a category for a single article. The subject is already part of "Singaporean male singers" which is a much more defining category. Connor Behan (talk) 17:03, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as per rationalised by . robertsky (talk) 18:25, 1 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Korean idols

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 08:40, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting korean idols


 * Nominator's rationale: Category contains a single page which is already part of the "South Korean idols" category. Connor Behan (talk) 17:01, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, since the "Korean idol" is very much specific to modern day South Korea. PC78 (talk) 00:26, 14 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Films with twist endings

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:39, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting films with twist endings


 * Nominator's rationale: Subjective category, with similar variations of it already deleted previously (one, two).  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 14:15, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as too subjective. Serves better as a list. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 14:18, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete While whether there is a twist ending or not is nor actually subjective (there are numerous tropes used in such endings), I fail to see an actual purpose for this category. Twist endings are common to the mystery and horror genres in particular, where surprise endings may reveal secrets concerning the characters' identities or motivations. Twist endings are also frequent in stories with unreliable narrators, with conclusions which reveal that the narrator was either hallucinating the events depicted, or intentionally deceiving his/her audience. Dimadick (talk) 15:40, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, maybe Listify I've seen this category being applied to articles that have no discussion to support the categorization, perhaps based on the editor's own feelings regarding the ending. Listification may resolve this issue by more explicitly requiring sourcing, but I'm equally and perhaps more okay with outright deletion. DonIago (talk) 16:05, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete subjective, already disagreement  - note listification already deleted at Articles for deletion/List of films with a twist ending. Ribbet32 (talk) 02:22, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep it, but make it a list. Here is why:
 * It is fundamentally useful as it allows would-be viewers to find new interesting movies to watch.
 * Yes, technically all movies have unexpected events or endings to the extent that the story aims to remain interesting. But there are certainly movies, such as the 'six sense', that introduce a radical change in the direction of the plot rather than simply introducing new facts to the plot on a continuing basis to remain interesting.
 * Of course there is subjectivity, but that is the case for other film lists too. For example: Why is 'the sound of music' in the list List of musical films by year and not Lists of comedy films or List of biographical films? Clearly this involves subjectivity yet these categories still deserve lists.
 * Inclusion could be based on the definition of plot twist. Therefore, we could listify it: Films with major plot twists. Films must of course first have their content checked to ensure the mention of a plot twist with suitable ref.
 * But consider: no matter which source is referenced, it is likely to be subjective too. At what point does a movie contain enough humor or satire to be considered a comedy? The latest 'Star Wars' films are the most humorous in the franchise; so for arguments sake: say this trend continued – who would be best qualified to decide upon the threshold of comedy? Clearly there is a range of subjectivity in ANY type of classification, so please lets not use that as the sole reason for deletion. Taking the earlier example further: in the mind of many of the original Star Wars generation the latest films are already a comedic abomination. Fittingly, the new films could also be considered for inclusion in 'list of films with plot twists' given the substantial increase in such plot devices versus earlier films.
 * As with any other list of films, deletion should be considered on a case-by-case basis in regards to the films listed, not the entire list.
 * I kindly request that evidence be presented to the contrary of the above – that is, evidence that this list is less subjective than other film lists, before deletion is further considered. I thank you for taking the time to consider my arguments. 122.151.249.156 (talk) 02:05, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, as even the list article was not kept, there should certainly not be a category. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:59, 2 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Diethynylbenzene dianions

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:38, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting diethynylbenzene dianions


 * Nominator's rationale: Three of the four articles in this cat were merged into the fourth, so there is only one actual page here—the "main" article for it—along with three redirects to it. Unlikely there will be others anytime soon. Propose nuking. DMacks (talk) 13:31, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:25, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Canada portals by province and territory

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:41, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Canada portals by province and territory to Category:Canadian portals
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. After a wave of recent deletions of Canadian portals (mostly nominated by their creator), this cat now contains only one item: Portal:Ontario.
 * The target Category:Canadian portals is lightly populated.  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 12:35, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:26, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, this category was previously useful but now is not. <b style="color: #329604">B</b><b style="color: #FD8F42">L</b><b style="color: #0096FF">A</b>IXX 11:17, 30 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Donkey Kong Country (series)
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 09:41, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Donkey Kong Country (series) to Category:Donkey Kong Country
 * Nominator's rationale: Per name of main series article, Donkey Kong Country. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:45, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename. You probably could have sent it to WP:CFD/S per WP:C2D.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 19:31, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Picross (video game series)
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