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Category:Lists of works of fiction, by geographical setting, arranged by chronological order

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting lists of works of fiction, by geographical setting, arranged by chronological order


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:Overcategorization, and clumsily named. This is already handled in part by Category:Lists of novels, Category:Lists of films by setting, Category:Lists of television series by setting, etc. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:28, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete the existing title is clumsy, and the grouping isn't a necessary one; the various "in popular culture" categories are sufficient. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 19:52, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Caucasian muhajirs

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 17. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:58, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting caucasian muhajirs


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic, in many articles the term "muhajir" is not even mentioned. Note that Muhajir (Caucasus) is a redirect to Circassian genocide but it is also not very clear how the articles in this category are related to the latter. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:25, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Daily events

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:13, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting daily events


 * Nominator's rationale: Indiscriminate and unmaintainable category. Wikipedia has literally thousands of articles about things that occur daily, but just three have been selected for this category: sunrise, sunset and a local border ceremony. The natural process of planetary orbit around a star, however, does not have a defining commonality with a ceremony just because they happen daily, but populating this out would not make it more useful: it would become an unbrowsably massive megacategory for thousands upon thousands of things that have nothing else in common with each other. Bearcat (talk) 20:21, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep the parent is which is broken down by periodicity i.e. daily, weekly, monthly, annually, biennial etc. I actually don't think there are thousands of articles about daily events, most just wouldn't warrant an article, more likely just a section of another article. Tim! (talk) 17:43, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, look at it this way: if we're defining sunrise and sunset as "events" for the purposes of this category, then breakfast, lunch, dinner, sleep, rush hour, heartbeats, and breathing are events by exactly the same standard too. Do you see how thinking about it in those terms changes how many articles this would need to contain? Bearcat (talk) 23:49, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. I have added, , and a page and a redirect for Changing of the Guard. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:29, 20 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Chronologically arranged lists of works of fiction and semi-fiction, about historical persons

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting chronologically arranged lists of works of fiction and semi-fiction, about historical persons


 * Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization, as per its sister category nominated three spots up. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:18, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Weekly events

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 17. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:29, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting weekly events


 * Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia has literally thousands of articles about things that happen weekly, but only a few things have actually been filed here at all: a subcategory for club nights, a protest, a public ceremony and a political debating process. This is not a useful or defining point of commonality between these four things, but populating it out would make it indiscriminate and unmaintainable as Wikipedia has literally thousands of articles about things that occur weekly. Bearcat (talk) 20:17, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep the parent is which is broken down by periodicity i.e. daily, weekly, monthly, annually, biennial etc. I actually don't think there are thousands of articles about weekly events, most just wouldn't warrant an article, more likely just a section of another article. Tim! (talk) 17:43, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I have re-added weekly newspapers and magazines which were removed by the nominator prior to the nomination. Tim! (talk) 17:50, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Newspapers and magazines are not "events", and have exactly zero business being in a category with the word "events" in its name. Bearcat (talk) 18:18, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep having thousands of articles in a category (and its subcategories) is certainly not a reason for deletion. Unlike the daily events category (which has issues I'm not sure are solvable - is Breakfast a daily event?), this one certainly seems reasonable to maintain. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 19:58, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT and WP:TRIVIALCAT. None of the subcategories belong here: Category:Club nights and Category:Observances by weekday do not belong here because they are not weekly (e.g. Bang Face is monthly), Category:Weekly journals‎, Category:Weekly magazines and Category:Weekly newspapers do not belong here because they are not events. Also article Church service does not belong here, there are more than enough churches where you have daily services. So that leaves three articles with virtually no commonality with each other. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's reasonable to include content closely related to weekly events in a category of this sort; it's for concepts related to weekly events, not a closed list of specific events.  That being resolved, the category becomes appropriate, even if it weren't appropriate before.  Nyttend backup (talk) 18:36, 26 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:History of Semi-Fictional Biographical Films

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting history of semi-fictional biographical films


 * Nominator's rationale: Much too specific a category (and oddly titled), with a single entry. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:16, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. "Semi-fictional" is much too temptingly vague a description too. Arguably, all biopics are "semi-fictional", since they almost all use techniques like creation of composite minor characters, adding dramatic effect, glossing over the boring bits, or Hollywood "reinterpretation" of history. Note also that Wikipedia does not appear to have any articles with the word "semi-fictional" (or "semifictional") in their titles. Grutness... wha?   15:04, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


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Seasons in Canadian curling

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I propose the moving of this category to Category:Seasons in Canadian curling and replace all categories for Years in Canadian curling with Seasons in Canadian curling (like Category:1972–1973 in Canadian curling instead of Category:1972 in Canadian curling or Category:1973 in Canadian curling). Just like when we moved articles about skiing from calendar years to seasons. J 1982 (talk) 19:28, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Procedurally, because categories are tagged and only a subset are listed.
 * Substantively, because:
 * calendar years are the simplest way of grouping topics chronologically.
 * the global Category:Years in curling is organised by year
 * Contrary to the assertion by the nominator @J 1982, I don't see any sign of skiing being grouped by season. I see Category:Years in Nordic skiing, Category:Years in alpine skiing and their subcats, but not seasons. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:31, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The articles about skiing have been renamed by season, see 2010–11 in skiing. Also, check out categories like "Category:Seasons in Canadian ice hockey". J 1982 (talk) 21:34, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * weak support in principle, given that it's a seasonal (i.e., weather-dependent) sport and thus for northern hemisphere countries a typical curling "year" straddles the new year period. Something similar is done - as pointed out - for ice hockey. However, as BHG points out, all categories should be correctly tagged and listed for a legitimate cfd discussion to take place. Grutness... wha?   11:36, 21 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Donald Glover songs

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:45, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting donald glover songs


 * Nominator's rationale: This is simply a redundant category to Category:Songs written by Donald Glover with mirrored content. One of them has to go. Also, this category is inaccurate because it should be titled "Childish Gambino songs" as he doesn’t perform under his real name. Songwriting credit goes to real names. Trillfendi (talk) 18:57, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Actually there is a misconception in the nomination. Any category should be named after the name of the article, which makes both category names correct, not that I don't have sympathy with 'Childish Gambino songs.' If the namespace was at Childish Gambino, then I can assure you so would the songwriting credits, check out, for example only, Category:Songs written by Lil Pump‎. Songwriter and performer can be the same or can be different, what the nominator is suggesting is the similar cats for Prince, Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Prince should be deleted too. Richhoncho (talk)
 * Do Not Rename If Kept Categories should follow the article names, per WP:C2D. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:30, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with RevelationDirect, the discussion, if there should be a discussion, should be at the article, not the category. I also can't see any guideline, procedure, or common usages that support this nomination. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:26, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Comment Still, one has to go. Trillfendi (talk) 02:49, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? We have to delete either Category:Songs written by Prince (musician) or Category:Prince (musician) songs; Category:Elton John songs or Category:Songs with music by Elton John, ditto for John Fogerty, J J Cale, Taylor Swift, Kanye West and about 6000 other categories? FWIW, writing a song is not synonymous with performing a song. That is why both categories do and should exist. --Richhoncho (talk) 12:18, 26 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Medieval Persia

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 17. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:38, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Medieval Persia to Category:Medieval Iran
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, there was no medieval kingdom or empire called Persia. Various dynasties ruled various parts of what currently is Iran. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:59, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment -- Persia was the English name for the area. This is probably ultimately a reflection of the English having studied ancient Greek.  The country was also not called Iran at the time, so that the use of that name is anachronistic.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:32, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * With respect to the latter, Category:Middle Ages by country diffuses medieval history by current countries, so Iran is certainly acceptable. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:59, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Mostly, but not entirely. I understand how splitting would be a problem, but we also have  rather than the (more appropriately spelt) . We also have, , and  as subcategories of . I note too that  is a subcategory of , which - if we were entirely following current countries - might cause something of a political problem. I would agree, however, that unless we want to split the category into a dizzying array of Rashiduns, Umayyads, Abbasids, Paduspanids, Samanids, etc, using the modern name of Iran might be the most appropriate. So that's a support after a tl;dr. Grutness...  wha?   11:49, 21 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Support Per Name of Iran, the terms Iran and Persia describe the same geographic area. Persia is attested since the 5th century BC, and Iran since the 3rd century AD. However, "Persia" is mostly an exonym, while Iran is an endonym. Dimadick (talk) 17:30, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Interesting article. I'd always assumed - incorrectly, it seems - that the name Persia came from a Hellenisation of the word Parthian. Grutness... wha?   11:52, 21 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep, as Peterkingiron said, "Persia" is just the English term for the area. The only thing that needs to be looked at here is English usage. A quick glance at google books establishes that "Medieval Persia" is perfectly common. Nor is it outdated, being the title of a 2105 monograph published with Routledge. "Medieval Iran" is a valid synonym, but apparently a slightly less common one. There is no reason to use the deletion process to go out of our way and replace a mainstream term with a slightly less common but acceptable synonym. --dab (𒁳) 06:42, 22 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Sniper video games

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Most of the discussion here focused on whether this is what the nominator appropriately called a genre established in sources. Many sources were cited, but no consensus was formed on whether those should be considered reliable sources for this purpose. (Evaluation might have been more through if Phediuk had explicitly labelled the sources rather than just linking quotes). Less attention was paid to the first plank of the nomination, viz whether this is a WP:Defining characteristic of these games, and there seems to have been testing of this category against WP:OVERLAPCAT and WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. I could have relisted the discussion again, but the first relisting generated only three more comments in 8 days and has now been stalled for another 3 days, so I don't hold out much hope of more contributions. As with any no consensus closure, a new discussion in a few months time (with more research by all involved) might produce a consensus one way or he other. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:03, 26 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting sniper video games


 * Nominator's rationale: Not a "defining" characteristic or a genre established in sources. Only connection between these articles is sometimes sharing a thematic element of looking down sniper sights. There are plenty of established, alternative subcategories under Category:Shooter video games for categorizing video games that involve "video games based on and/or inspired by the art of marksmanship and sniping." czar  21:12, 1 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 05:49, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete not a genre.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:40, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:USEFUL: ""There are some pages within Wikipedia that are supposed to be useful navigation tools and nothing more—disambiguation pages, categories, and redirects, for instance—so usefulness is the basis of their inclusion; for these types of pages, usefulness is a valid argument." Categorizing games by subject matter is useful; it is useful to be able to see all sniper-themed games on a single page, as WP offers no other way of doing so. Hence, I vote to keep. A cursory search on Google also turns up multiple articles on sniper games, clearly treating sniping as a defining characteristic. Phediuk (talk) 00:41, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * This is not the kind of usefulness that the guideline essay speaks of. The articles in this category are not Wikipedia navigation tools like disambiguation pages, categories and redirects. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:24, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It most certainly is the same type of usefulness that the guideline speaks of. Per WP:USEFUL again: "An argument based on usefulness can be valid if put in context. For example, 'This list brings together related topics in X and is useful for navigating that subject.'" Given that the entire purpose of categories is to be useful for navigation, and this category groups together games defined by subject matter in a way that is already demonstrably supported by RSes (cf. the "best sniper video games" linked above), I vote to keep. Phediuk (talk) 14:37, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * This typically belongs to the type of usefulness arguments to avoid, as is exactly the topic of the essay. Everyone trying to prevent that something is going to be deleted will say that it is useful, so it does not say anything. The question is whether the characteristic is defining or not. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:20, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * And here are a spate of RS articles treating sniping as a defining characteristic. Keep in mind that all sources I have linked are from separate publications, so that's 17 different RSes that demonstrably recognize the "sniper game" as a genre:
 * "The finest sniping videogames"
 * "The best sniper games on PC"
 * "While the sniper genre might not be as popular as Call of Duty or Battlefield, it provides a unique flavour of first-person shooting."
 * "Furthermore, he wants the latest title to become a new standard in the sniping genre."
 * "Although the sniper genre is intrinsically limited, it's a good match for Rebellion, who can put all their efforts into a polished experience."
 * "Silent Scope 3 takes the sniper genre to a whole new level"
 * "Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2 is leading the sniper genre at this point and it doesn’t look like they are slowing down anytime soon."
 * "Com2uS injects new life into the sniper genre with the release of Sniper vs. Sniper Online"
 * "it's no mere shooting gallery or whack-a-mole, unlike so many other touch-based sniping games"
 * "There’s a mechanic in some sniper games, including the Sniper Elite series, through which your heart rate affects the stability of your weapon when aiming down the scope."
 * "studio head Patrick Naud tells GamesIndustry.biz that it was becoming impossible to keep up with the number of free sniper games out there."
 * "Sniper games have been oddly popular on the App Store"
 * "The studio behind Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2 is no stranger to sniping games."
 * "The same goes with sniping games like the popular Sniper vs. Sniper, iSniper 3D, and Silent Scope"
 * "if you buy Sniper because you want a decent sniping game then you’ll be annoyed that the action so frequently devolves into spray-and-pray with clumsy assault rifles."
 * "Don't judge me, but I love sniping games"
 * "Rebellion's World War II-based stealth marksmanship game"; in the same article, the developer refers to its own game as "the sniping genre's elite"
 * In short, "sniper games" are both a defining characteristic and genre of game as indicated by a wide range of reliable sources. To navigate between games of an established genre is consistent with the stated "central goal" of WP:CAT to "browse and quickly find sets of pages on topics that are defined by those characteristics", the relevant characteristic here being the "sniper game", which many RSes recognize, as demonstrated above. Hence, we should keep the category. Phediuk (talk) 07:58, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Using two descriptors is not the same as recognition as a genre, nor as a "defining" trait. If it is recognized as a genre, surely you can find RS that discuss this genre. As of now, sniper game is a redlink. I still don't see the case for this categorization. czar  16:18, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The first two links (here and here) are literally overviews of the genre from RSes, and both explicitly use the word "genre"; most of the rest clearly discuss sniping games in the context of a genre, even citing other games in the same passages. Yes, it does matter when articles use "two descriptors" to consistently describe a game, as that makes those descriptors a defining characteristic (per #3 below), and the descriptors in question are the exact words "sniper genre", used together, in reference to specific games and with comparison to other games. That is an explicit recognition of the sniper genre, and not just by one, but by many RSes, as shown above. Furthermore, your argument that "sniper game" is a redlink is irrelevant; this is not a requirement for a category per WP:CATV. Categories require, according to Wikipedia guidelines at WP:CATV, these three qualities:
 * 1. "Categorization of articles must be verifiable. It should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories." -- Check. There's a boatload of RSes that refer to sniping games as sniping games and place them in a sniper genre; I've demonstrated 17 different, reliable publications and highlighted the exact phrases describing the relevant games as such, including at least 2 RS overviews of the genre.
 * 2. "Categorization must also maintain a neutral point of view. Categorizations appear on article pages without annotations or referencing to justify or explain their addition; editors should be conscious of the need to maintain a neutral point of view when creating categories or adding them to articles." -- Check. I'm merely reporting what the sources consistently say, which is that they recognize sniping games and a sniper genre; this justifies a category.
 * 3. "A central concept used in categorising articles is that of the defining characteristics of a subject of the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having—such as nationality or notable profession (in the case of people), type of location or region (in the case of places), etc." -- Check. Just about any review of a sniping game will describe it as a sniping game and there's a spate of RSes that treat sniping games as a genre and use the exact phrase "sniper genre" to describe them, as demonstrated above with RSes.
 * In short, the sniper game category is both supported by WP policy and accurately reflects consistent RS usage in coverage of sniper games, which places them in such a genre defined by a consistent body of similar games. Per WP guidelines, no master article of sniper games is required, but only the "common and consistent" treatment by RSes of "sniper game" and "sniper genre" as relevant characteristics, and, indeed, both "sniper games" and "sniper genre" are treated as such, by RSes, extensively. Phediuk (talk) 03:11, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 14:52, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Relisting comment, the discussion has been stale for a few weeks, but has now come to live again. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:52, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Den of Geek is an unreliable source and PCGamesN has listicles for all sorts of groupings—e.g., "best anime games" and "best cop/police games"—which doesn't make any a "genre", especially if we already have similar categories that serve the same purpose. czar  15:36, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The claims made by Czar are variably false, irrelevant, or both. I will address them point for point:
 * First, he claims Den of Geek is not a RS. This is false. Den of Geek is RS for pop-culture pieces as it is from a reliable publisher with editorial oversight; see here and here. A quick Google search turns up over 1200 results on English WP for Den of Geek, and adding "game" to the terms turns up a slew of citations in video game articles too. The fact that it is not listed at WP:VG/Sources does not make it unreliable; per the very same page, "This list is not meant to be exhaustive and only covers works that regularly report on video games and the industry. Sources that otherwise are considered reliable sources in general ... are also reliable for coverage of topics related video games when they do report on these topics. Note that any source in § Reliable checklist is considered just as reliable as those on this list." Den of Geek is therefore a RS.
 * Second, he links to other articles from PCGamesN that aren't about sniper games or even about game genres at all, making them irrelevant. What PCGamesN does in their other articles is not the point of discussion here; what we are discussing is Czar's original rationale for the CfD that sniper games are "Not a 'defining' characteristic or a genre established in sources". This claim is false. Not only have I already demonstrated extensive RS evidence that refers to a "sniper genre" and to "sniper games", (17 different publications, see above), but even the very PCGamesN article in question identifies the sniper games it lists as "the very best the genre has to offer."
 * Third, and most importantly, Czar's exclusive focus on the Den of Geek and PCGamesN overview articles is irrelevant because no such overviews are required for a category. We are not trying to make a master article of the sniper genre, only a category of sniper games; as I have demonstrated above, a master article is not a requirement of a category per WP:CATV. The three requirements are verifiability, neutral point-of-view, and defining characteristics--i.e., RSes consistently and commonly refer to a thing as being a particular thing. Therefore, if RSes commonly and consistently refer to "sniper games" and a "sniper genre", the category should stay. They do. To prove that they do, I have cited a mound of RS evidence above that use the terms "sniper game" and "sniper genre" in reference to specific games, and this category accurately reflects the prevalence of that usage. Therefore, we should keep the category. Phediuk (talk) 16:16, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep per Phediuk. I think this one is considered WP:USEFUL, and there is no need to delete it. Ben5218 (talk) 07:21, 23 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Topics by medium
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 07:14, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Topics by medium to Category:Categories by medium
 * Nominator's rationale: I know that the purpose of Category:Topics by medium is to have categories about topics, which are portrayed in media, like Animals in the media, Abortion in the media etc. However there are very few such categories, who truely serve this purpose and the majority would fit better under the category, that I proposed them to be merged into. CN1 (talk) 13:53, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Addionally, "topic" and "category" are used very much like synonyms, which would also support the merge. CN1 (talk) 18:13, 21 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Biota
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 23%23Category:Biota

Category:Itzy
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting itzy


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:SMALLCAT UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:48, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as only contains a single article. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 08:11, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as this is the textbook example of WP:SMALLCAT. Jwuthe2 (talk) 16:56, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


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