Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 7



Category:Splendor Solis

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 08:03, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting splendor solis


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT already in Category:Alchemical documents so no need to upmerge Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:05, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Support Can't think of a potential 2nd article here, let alone a 5th. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:52, 10 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Islamist insurgents
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 April 8%23Category:Islamist insurgents

Category:Professional wrestling rosters

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 19. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:08, 19 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Professional wrestling rosters to Category:Professional wrestling personnel
 * Nominator's rationale: Changing name of category to match the pages within in. All were recently made consistent and category should match.  Galatz גאליץ שיחה Talk  22:11, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Alt Rename/Support ((ping|Galatz)) Maybe Category:Lists of professional wrestling personnel would be better to match the main article ((List of professional wrestling personnel) and since they're all lists. Also support original proposal as better than the current name though.RevelationDirect (talk) 01:55, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Based on this alternate suggestion I researched categories dealing with lists, and I agree, this alternate appears to be more of the norm. -  Galatz גאליץ שיחה Talk  16:46, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Support rename - Category:List of Professional wrestling Personnel makes a lot of sense here. These articles are rarely actual articles, just lists. I do have an issue with a lot of them existing as non-notable but that's another conversation.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:57, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: RevelationDirect's suggestion would broaden the scope of the category; it's currently personnel by professional wrestling promotion, but the suggested name would also include e.g. lists by country. That may still be a good idea. Currently, it ought to be a sub-cat of Category:Professional wrestling promotions, but it isn't, and shouldn't become one if it is given that new name. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:54, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Anti-pornography movements

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 11. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:26, 11 March 2019 (UTC)4


 * Propose renaming Category:Anti-pornography movements to Category:Anti-pornography movement
 * Nominator's rationale: This was suggested on the Speedy page, but it did not fit the criteria there. I am inclined to agree with the original nominator that there is an overall anti-pornography movement. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:50, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Category:Anti-pornography movements to Category:Anti-pornography movement – Should be singular, not plural. Anomalous+0 (talk) 11:36, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Category:Anti-abortion movements to Category:Anti-abortion movement - Should be singular, not plural. Anomalous+0 (talk) 10:04, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * @Anomalous+0: For the preceding 2 categories, would the change modify the scope of the category? Is the category about different and unrelated anti-X movements, or about a single or connected movement? -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:48, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Good question, as Category:Social movements includes many sub-cats called "X movement" as well as many called "Y movements". The main article for the first one is Opposition to pornography and refers to "Anti-pornography movements", so I do not see a clear speedy rationale for that one. However, the second nomination is valid under WP:C2D, as the lead article is Anti-abortion movement. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:24, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Regarding the Anti-pornography category, I think singular is preferable because any "sub-movements" (to coin a phrase) are part of the overall Anti-pornography movement. The mere fact that the article refers to "movements" doesn't mean they should be regarded as separate and distinct from the overall movement. Anomalous+0 (talk) 13:44, 21 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Inclined to keep plural (if there's one movement, why are there so many articles, I ask myself). It seems unlikely to me, given the geographic and time ranges, that half these groups have even heard of the other half. Mary Whitehouse's lot (older British readers will recall it), now rebranded Mediawatch-UK, is not there, nor are a number of older groups, now presumably defunct. Nor is the US National Legion of Decency. As always, people should spend less time worrying about the minutiae of category names, and more about whether they contain the obvious basic contents!  You know who you are.  Johnbod (talk) 19:41, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Bear in mind, there is a fundamental distinction between movements and organizations. Movements are comprised of organizations along with large numbers of individuals. This is true across the board, regardless of what particular movement you're talking about. In this case, all of those organizations are part of the Anti-pornography movement. Anomalous+0 (talk) 08:22, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * - I should have pinged you when I posted my reply to your comment. Anomalous+0 (talk) 10:08, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. It's not a single movement. For one, anti-porn feminism and anti-porn evangelicalism are quite different. feminist (talk) 15:52, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Tend to support. The article Anti-pornography movement in the United Kingdom (singular) suggests it is one movement originated from two different perspectives (a feminist and a conservative/religious perspective). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 1 March 2019 (UTC)


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Scandinavian royalty

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 11. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:18, 11 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Royal houses of Norway to Category:Norwegian royal houses
 * Propose renaming Category:Royal houses of Denmark to Category:Danish royal houses
 * Propose renaming Category:Royal families of Sweden to Category:Swedish royal houses
 * Propose renaming Category:Burial sites of Royal families of Sweden to Category:Burial sites of Swedish royal houses


 * Nominator's rationale: more consistent with Category:Scandinavian royal houses, siblings in Category:Burial sites of European royal families, and the contents of these categories which use "House" rather than "family" or "dynasty". – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:36, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Category:Burial sites of Royal families of Sweden to Category:Burial sites of Swedish royal families – WP:C2C: Category:Burial sites of European royal families. Chicbyaccident (talk) 17:19, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose speedy Subcategory of . Armbrust The Homunculus 17:32, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * @Armbrust and Chicbyaccident: That one may need to be renamed to Category:Swedish royal families, following the mixed convention of Category:European royal families and Category:Scandinavian royal houses. I've inquired about the terminology at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility/Archive 9. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:14, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose - more people will find these categories more quickly if their names begin with "Royal families of ...". --SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:04, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak support, only for consistency reasons. The form "Royal houses of Norway" is actually more to the point than "Norwegian royal houses" which may imply "Royal houses from Norway", so a wider nomination with a reverse rename would be appreciated. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:22, 8 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional characters with energy manipulation powers

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 * The result of the discussion was: Option A. Timrollpickering (Talk) 21:11, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Fictional characters with energy manipulation powers
 * Option A: to Category:Fictional characters with energy-manipulation abilities
 * Option B: to Category:Fictional characters who can manipulate energy
 * Nominator's rationale: procedural nomination following inconclusive discussion on Speedy page. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:16, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Category:Fictional characters with energy manipulation powers to Category:Fictional characters with energy abilities – C2c, in agreement with many subcategories of Category:Fictional characters by superhuman feature or ability; even those that do not do not follow this naming convention. – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 11:10, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Partial oppose. Category:Fictional characters with energy-manipulation abilities would be a better name. Not only does it follow similar categories, but it also clarifies its subject.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 05:45, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Or perhaps Category:Fictional characters who can manipulate energy... as you noted, there does not seem to be an accepted convention in Category:Fictional characters by superhuman feature or ability. Either way, I think this is not straightforward enough for CFD/S; a full nomination would be more suited. -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:10, 23 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Interestingly, this category and all of its siblings have been deleted in 2007 per this CfD and recreated later. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:50, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Option A A hyphen is needed here, since "energy manipulation" serves as an adjective to "abilities". Dimadick (talk) 13:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Arthurian games

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (Talk) 21:12, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Arthurian games to Category:Games based on Arthurian legend
 * Propose renaming Category:Cultural depictions of Arthurian legends to Category:Cultural depictions of Arthurian legend
 * Propose renaming Category:Works based on Arthurian legends to Category:Works based on Arthurian legend
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series based on Arthurian legends to Category:Television series based on Arthurian legend
 * Nominator's rationale: The first one will be clearer, despite the majority of siblings being named "Arthurian [media]"; the contents are not games played at Arthur's court. The proposed names are consistent with Category:Arthurian legend, Category:Minor planets named from Arthurian legend and Category:Locations associated with Arthurian legend. The first one was rejected on the Speedy page, see below. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:26, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Category:Arthurian games to Category:Games based on Arthurian legends – C2C per Category:Works based on Arthurian legends. This will be clearer, despite the majority of siblings being named "Arthurian [media]". – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:40, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london: Oppose speedy, as the majority of categories in Category:Works based on Arthurian legends follow the Arthurian {works} format. -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:56, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Category:Video games based on Arthurian legend to Category:Video games based on Arthurian legends – C2C: Consistency with established category tree names Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:19, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * @Mvcg66b3r: Oppose speedy, as the top-level category is Category:Arthurian legend (singular "legend"). -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:56, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Johnbod (talk) 18:44, 11 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Right-Wing Militia

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at WP:CFD 2019 March 11#Category:Right-Wing_Militia. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:11, 11 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Right-Wing Militia to Category:Right-wing militia organizations in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: Procedural nomination following suggestion at Speedy page, matching article Militia organizations in the United States. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:16, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Category:Right-Wing Militia to Category:Right-wing militias – Correct capitalization & pluralize. Anomalous+0 (talk) 13:27, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I think this category needs more than just technical fixes. For example, it is not clear from either name that the category is specific to the United States. Category:Right-wing militia organizations in the United States might be better, but I am not sure if that is clear-cut enough for speedy renaming. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Alt Rename/Support I would favor Category:Militia organizations in the United States to match the main article (Militia organizations in the United States). The proposal is better than the current article name so would also favor the proposal above. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:59, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Support - the original suggestion seems better. Note there is also Category:Left-wing militant groups in the United States. In true US style, these articles are not tied in the the international tree very well. Johnbod (talk) 18:46, 11 February 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Caucus

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at WP:CFD 2019 March 11. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:43, 11 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Caucus to Category:United States presidential caucuses
 * Nominator's rationale: The current name is excessively vague; the category contains articles about caucuses used in selecting US presidential candidates. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 01:13, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment I'm wondering if your proposal would work better as a sub-category under Category:Caucus since a minority of the current won't belong in the new category. Specifically, Boston Caucus isn't presidential, Caucus and Caucus chair are not American-specific. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:06, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Rename to - firstly it's distinctly about the US, and not about caucases in other parts of the world, and secondly, it should use the plural. If you want an overall parent, then it should be, but I dpn't see it as being particularly vital. Grutness...  wha?   10:40, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Rename to (or similar) per Grutness. Johnbod (talk) 18:52, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Caucuses in the United States. Better grammatically. Anomalous+0 (talk) 12:11, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Or that. Johnbod (talk) 15:11, 28 February 2019 (UTC)


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