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Category:Sicilian Independence Movement

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 16:57, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting category


 * Nominator's rationale: Substantially useless category with a wrong name, it contains only one page. Wololoo (talk) 15:34, 15 July 2019 (UTC)


 * merge to parent -- Even if renamed to match to main article, we would never have more than a single article. However we need to ensure that the subcat is not orphaned.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:14, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No need to merge, the article is already in Category:Sicilian nationalist parties and the subcategory is already in Category:Sicilian nationalists. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:25, 23 July 2019 (UTC)


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Category:People from Changsha County, Hunan

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 16:23, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People from Changsha County, Hunan to Category:People from Changsha County
 * Nominator's rationale: There doesn't seem to be any other Changsha Counties in China (or elsewhere in the world). Still, wanted to CfR this rather than speedy it because there may be something I'm missing. Nlu (talk) 14:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Support - per article Changsha County. Oculi (talk) 17:29, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:People from Changsha, as far as I can see we do not categorize people by county here. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Uh, yes we do - quite a bit. (E.g., Category:People from Dongming County, Category:People from Yanggu County, Shandong.)  --Nlu (talk) 14:37, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * And not just in China. As a random example, Category:People from Queens County, New Brunswick —Nizolan (talk · c.) 19:16, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * There aren't any other county subcategories of Category:People from Changsha though. I presume the counties are not well-populated enough to require diffusion by county for this city. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:37, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The reason there are no other county subcategories is because there is only one county that is administered by the Changsha prefectural city. A prefectural city, in China, is a combined local administration unit which encompasses both a city and a surrounding prefecture. A person in the Changsha County category is from the surrounding rural or suburban area governed by the city administration, and not the city proper. A prefectural city is ranked above a county, so the ranking in the categorisation tree is appropriate. Hope that clears things up a bit —Nizolan (talk · c.) 00:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC) (See also: Changsha —Nizolan (talk · c.) 01:00, 17 July 2019 (UTC))
 * Thanks for your explanation, but now I wonder whether city categories in China are meant for the cities proper or for the prefectural cities, and shouldn't the category names contain a disambiguator if they refer to the prefectural cities? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that the city is defined as the prefectural city, so the category has to refer to the prefectural city. Unlike Changsha County, the city proper isn't a unit. For comparison, we don't distinguish, at either the article or category level, between Hong Kong and the Hong Kong SAR, Singapore and the Republic of Singapore, Paris and the Department of Paris, etc., even though those units often encompass a lot of rural land. The closest category in this case would be Category:Districts of Changsha. —Nizolan (talk · c.) 09:26, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Support as needless disambiguation. Browsing through the tree at Category:Counties of China, province disambiguation in the title is fairly rare. —Nizolan (talk · c.) 19:16, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Support per parent category and leading article name. gidonb (talk) 02:43, 21 July 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Omloop der Kempen

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 10:25, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting omloop der kempen


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, without prejudice. gidonb (talk) 12:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge to parent categories, agree with WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: apart from the lead article, there is only 2008_Omloop_der_Kempen, which has been nominated at AfD. This CfD should wait for the outcome of that AfD. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:27, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Also my nomination. This article has just been redirected. gidonb (talk) 10:41, 30 July 2019 (UTC)


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Establishments in Dubai
Relisted, see Categories for discussion/Log/2019 August 10%23Establishments in Dubai

Sufis by city

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 16:24, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Sufis from Islamabad to Category:Punjabi Sufis and Category:People from Islamabad
 * Propose merging Category:Sufis from Lahore to Category:Punjabi Sufis and Category:People from Lahore
 * Propose merging Category:Sufis from Multan to Category:Punjabi Sufis and Category:People from Multan
 * Propose merging Category:Sufis from Karachi to Category:Sufis of Sindh and Category:People from Islamabad Category:People from Karachi
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, trivial intersection between religious adherence and city, we do not have Category:Lutherans from Minneapolis either. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Support We don't have Category:Muslims from London either. Remagoxer (talk) 13:18, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Support per above. Grutness... wha?   04:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment The Multan category has 10 articles, which is quite enough to keep. Sufism is a major division of Islam, and Pakistan is a very populous country.  I suspect there will be room for populating the other three up to the normal minimum of 5 articles.  I presume the nom is intended to be:
 * propose merging Category:Sufis from Karachi to Category:Sufis of Sindh and Category:People from Karachi
 * Peterkingiron (talk) 14:21, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, corrected. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Support double upmerge for all. Ethnicity OR religion with local government is nondefining for individuals. gidonb (talk) 05:09, 24 July 2019 (UTC)


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Islam by city
Relisted, see Categories for discussion/Log/2019 August 10%23Islam by city