Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 July 8



Category:Agricultural occupations (animal)

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 11:12, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Agricultural occupations (animal) to Category:Animal husbandry occupations
 * Nominator's rationale: Per Animal husbandry and Category:Animal husbandry there seems to be a specific term for this. Not putting as speedy though in case of reservations. Brandmeistertalk  14:25, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Support To match the main article. Dimadick (talk) 15:38, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Support per both. Johnbod (talk) 15:03, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


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Category:21st-century Roman Catholic church buildings in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: do not rename. MER-C 09:38, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:21st-century Roman Catholic church buildings in the United States to Category:21st-century Catholic church buildings in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:C2C Mar Thoma Sleeha Cathedral is not of the Roman Rite. Manabimasu (talk) 14:11, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose The parent category is Category:Roman Catholic churches in the United States. Simply remove the Cathedral which does not fit. Dimadick (talk) 15:35, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment, it is not useful to only rename particular categories, this requires a broader nomination. But the substantive oppose is too blunt - obviously the Catholic churches belong together. The category system in Wikipedia suggests a much wider gap between the Latin Church and the Eastern Catholic churches than is realistic, and it also pretty remarkable that the Wikipedia category system takes "Roman Catholic" as synonymous of "of the Latin Church" while in common language "Roman Catholic" is/was mostly used as a synonym of "Catholic". See also Roman Catholic (term). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Support though not for the reason given -- If an article has been mis-categorised, the solution is to edit that article and change it. Assuming that "Anglo-Catholic" is not a widely used term in America, we should rename this (and siblings).  Peterkingiron (talk) 11:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Cannot support a partial fix. This is not even mooted as a test case. Nominate the entire tree or withdraw the nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:10, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Support. PPEMES (talk) 22:26, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose - subcat scheme for parents Category:21st-century Roman Catholic church buildings and Category:Roman Catholic churches in the United States, both part of wider consistently named trees. Makes no sense to rename in isolation. Oculi (talk) 15:43, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose - there is a coherent category tree below Category:Roman Catholic church buildings and Category:Roman Catholic churches by year of completion. You are welcome to create an Eastern Catholic subcategory, or an Eastern Catholic sister category to the Roman Catholic one with a Catholic mother category. The proposed move creates more problems than it would solve. Place Clichy (talk) 20:51, 22 July 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Roman Catholic churches completed in 2008

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 * The result of the discussion was: do not rename. MER-C 16:49, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic churches completed in 2008 to Category:Catholic churches completed in 2008
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:C2C Mar Thoma Sleeha Cathedral is not of the Roman Rite.Manabimasu (talk) 14:07, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose. The parent category is Category:Roman Catholic churches by year of completion. Simply remove the Cathedral which does not fit. Dimadick (talk) 15:36, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment "Catholic" should be acceptable anywhere where "Anglo-Catholic" (or other denominations not in communion with Rome) are not significant. Peterkingiron (talk) 11:27, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment This category tree has a global scope, so demographics by area are not of much use. Dimadick (talk) 05:57, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Agree with above; the category covers the years 1398 to 2018, and one year should not be considered in isolation. And "Roman Catholics" includes "Eastern Catholics" who accept the authority of the Pope. Hugo999 (talk) 07:31, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Obviously, many people, including the nominator, consider that in this context (and in many contexts) Roman Catholic refers to the Western/Latin part of the Church, stating the difference with Eastern Catholics. Place Clichy (talk) 20:51, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Cannot support a partial fix. Nominate the entire tree or withdraw the nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:12, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Support. As always, if there aren't both Latin Church and Eastern Catholic Churches subcategories, then "Catholic" is the generic choice of preference per consistency. PPEMES (talk) 22:25, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose - subcat of Category:Roman Catholic churches by year of completion, itself a subcat of Category:Roman Catholic churches. Obvious solution is to remove the miscategorised article. Oculi (talk) 15:38, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose - there is a coherent category tree below Category:Roman Catholic church buildings and Category:Roman Catholic churches by year of completion. You are welcome to create an Eastern Catholic subcategory, or an Eastern Catholic sister category to the Roman Catholic one with a Catholic mother category. The proposed move creates more problems than it would solve. Place Clichy (talk) 20:51, 22 July 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Lacrosse in Ann Arbor

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 14:42, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting lacrosse in ann arbor


 * Nominator's rationale: Category contains only the University of Michigan lacrosse subcategory. TM 13:51, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Support. The sub-cat is already within Category:Sports in Ann Arbor, Michigan via Category:Michigan Wolverines. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:22, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Ann Arbor

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/rename. MER-C 09:46, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Ann Arbor to Category:Ann Arbor, Michigan
 * Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Ann Arbor to Category:Buildings and structures in Ann Arbor, Michigan
 * Propose merging Category:Sports in Ann Arbor to Category:Sports in Ann Arbor, Michigan
 * Propose renaming Category:Sports venues in Ann Arbor to Category:Sports venues in Ann Arbor, Michigan


 * Nominator's rationale: Rename to match page name. Also nominating subcategories. TM 13:49, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Support for consistency. TM: I have tagged the sub-categories. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:18, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


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Category:History of international rules football

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 14:44, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting history of international rules football


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:COPSEP, people don't belong in this category, which doesn't leave anything worth keeping a WP:SMALLCAT for. -- wooden superman  12:14, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge to international rules football. For information, this is a hybrid between Australian and Gaelic sports to enable matches between them.  The individuals might be moved to a people category, but at present there are not enough.  Peterkingiron (talk) 11:31, 10 July 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Religions implementing the Five Precepts

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 14:46, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting religions implementing the five precepts


 * Nominator's rationale: Just redundant to Category:Jainism, does not aid in navigation ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:26, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Support. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:14, 12 July 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Exalted Order of the Crown of Kedah

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:47, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Exalted Order of the Crown of Kedah to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Kedah
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, the subcategory appears to be sufficient. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * the same applies to all 10 sub-cats of Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Kedah. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:26, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm adding them to the nomination now. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:35, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Glorious Order of the Crown of Kedah to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Kedah
 * Propose merging Category:Halimi Family Order of Kedah‎ to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Kedah
 * Propose merging Category:Order of Loyalty to Sultan 'Abdu'l Halim Mu'azzam Shah‎ to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Kedah
 * Propose merging Category:Order of Loyalty to the Royal House of Kedah‎ to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Kedah
 * Propose merging Category:Kedah Supreme Order of Merit‎ to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Kedah
 * Propose merging Category:Royal Family Order of Kedah‎ to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Kedah
 * Propose merging Category:Supreme Order of Sri Mahawangsa‎ to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Kedah
 * Propose merging Category:State of Kedah Star of Gallantry‎ to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Kedah
 * Propose merging Category:State of Kedah Star of Valour‎ to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Kedah


 * Support There is not enough content to merit separate categories. Peterkingiron (talk) 11:33, 10 July 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Crosses of Aeronautical Merit
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Category:Order of the Star of Ghana
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 July 22%23Category:Order of the Star of Ghana