Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 June 11



Japan

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 09:16, 19 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Rename  Category:Agricultural organisations based in Japan to Category:Agricultural organizations based in Japan
 * Category:Animal welfare organisations based in Japan to Category:Animal welfare organizations based in Japan
 * Category:Child-related organisations in Japan to Category:Child-related organizations in Japan
 * Category:International organisations based in Japan to Category:International organizations based in Japan
 * Category:Non-profit organisations based in Japan to Category:Non-profit organizations based in Japan
 * Category:Organisations based in Aichi Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Aichi Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Chiba Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Chiba Prefecture


 * Category:Organisations based in Ehime prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Ehime prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Fukui prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Fukui prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Fukuoka Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Fukuoka Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Gunma prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Gunma prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Hiroshima prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Hiroshima prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Hokkaido to Category:Organizations based in Hokkaido
 * Category:Organisations based in Hyōgo Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Hyōgo Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Ibaraki Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Ibaraki Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Ishikawa prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Ishikawa prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Kagawa prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Kagawa prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Kagoshima Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Kagoshima Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Kanagawa Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Kanagawa Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Kobe to Category:Organizations based in Kobe
 * Category:Organisations based in Kyoto Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Kyoto Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Miyagi Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Miyagi Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Miyazaki Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Miyazaki Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Nagasaki Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Nagasaki Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Nagoya to Category:Organizations based in Nagoya
 * Category:Organisations based in Niigata prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Niigata prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Okayama prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Okayama prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Okinawa prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Okinawa prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Osaka to Category:Organizations based in Osaka
 * Category:Organisations based in Osaka Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Osaka Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Saga prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Saga prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Saitama Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Saitama Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Sapporo to Category:Organizations based in Sapporo
 * Category:Organisations based in Sendai to Category:Organizations based in Sendai
 * Category:Organisations based in Shizuoka Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Shizuoka Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Tochigi Prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Tochigi Prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Tokushima prefecture to Category:Organizations based in Tokushima prefecture
 * Category:Organisations based in Yokohama to Category:Organizations based in Yokohama


 * Rationale - Category:Organizations based in Japan and Category:Organizations based in Japan by subject use 'organizations' predominantly. There is no pressing case for using 'organisations' in Japan. Oculi (talk) 23:26, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - So two categories use a Z and 37 use an S? I agree consistency is good, but as the English Wikipedia prefers no national variety of the language over any other. I would think maintaining a majority would be better for a non-anglophone country. --Nessie (talk) 15:28, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * No, there are 44 with z - see complete list at User:Oculi/japan. Category:Organizations based in Japan dates from 2006 when it was renamed at cfd from and 'organizations' should have been used (for consistency) in the subtrees 'by city' and 'by prefecture' which were mostly constructed around 2015. Oculi (talk) 15:51, 12 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Support "z" since Japan is likely to follow American, not British usage, due to post-WWII occupation. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:31, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Much though I hate to admit it, support per PeterKI as Japan was dominated by US English after WWII. Grutness... wha?   15:45, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Support (despite being British and using -s- spelling in my personal writing). – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:55, 13 June 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Adult animation studios

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. MER-C 09:19, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting adult animation studios


 * Nominator's rationale: "Adult animation" is vague, and almost all of the studios currently included also produce "non-adult" animation, so it's unclear what the point of the category is. Trivialist (talk) 23:15, 11 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. "Adult animation" is a well-defined generic term. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:07, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Adult animation is a genre of its own. Dimadick (talk) 07:12, 12 June 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Post–World War II forced migrations in Europe

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:17, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: Both categories are exclusively about Europe. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:52, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Post–World War II forced migrations in Europe to Category:Post–World War II forced migrations
 * Support, per nom, but when merged, add Category:Forced migrations in Europe as a parent to Category:Post–World War II forced migrations. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Support -- This was essentially a European phenomenon. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:32, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Support. Bondegezou (talk) 11:20, 14 June 2019 (UTC)


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Category:First Ladies and Gentlemen of California

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus/wait. MER-C 09:46, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:First Ladies and Gentlemen of California to Category:First Ladies and Partners of California
 * Nominator's rationale: To reflect recent elected Governor of California's partner status. Or, rename to 'First Spouses and Partners of California' to avoid future renaming as someone with male spouse get elected. Störm   (talk)  21:44, 11 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose We would have to rename the whole category tree of "Spouses". Also, per our article, "Spouse" we better use the term "significant other", which covers all kind of civil unions, formal and informal,and this will open the whole can of worms. So we better keep category for legal marriages.  Staszek Lem (talk) 21:56, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually it is the official title used by them, see California Governor's site which says 'First Partner'. Störm   (talk)  22:06, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, "First Partner of California", sounds great. Not. The term "First Lady" makes deep sense. "Lady" means here noble. "Partner", ... mmm ... porno? "First Partner" .... boinked a virgin? I understand political correctness, but not brainless one, bordering with idiotizmus. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:02, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

8Comment- as with the New Zealand one below, might be a tidier name. Grutness... wha?   04:15, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, following . Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Wait. Shouldn't this be treated for the entire Category:Spouses of national leaders/Category:Official social partners of national leaders tree, rather than just California and New Zealand? The case of France's Valérie Trierweiler and Julie Gayet also comes to mind. Place Clichy (talk) 09:19, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * We may allow local variations. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:59, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. When a term is predominant in local use or established as a local standard, it should definitely trump the more generic spouses and partners. Place Clichy (talk) 12:45, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Apparently, if we succeed in renaming it then we could proceed to renaming whole tree provided we get consensus using WP:RfC. Störm   (talk)  12:29, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Wait. per Place Clichy. This has precedent-setting potential in the tree structures mentioned. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:27, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Wait. Jennifer Seibel has stated a personal preference for being called "First Partner" instead of "First Lady", but we have not yet reached the point where that's become an established or emerging standard format for the position's official name yet — it's just her personal choice, not yet a cultural norm. I'd strongly encourage American media to seriously reconsider whether the title needs to be gendered at all — is it really necessary to call special attention to the spouse's gender by calling them "lady" or "gentleman", instead of just calling them "First Spouse" or "First Partner"? — but I don't have a magic wand to make that happen. (It's also likely only a matter of time before a state or national First Spouse somewhere in the world comes out as non-binary, and thus neither a "lady" nor a "gentleman", but it would also be crystal-balling to predict how long that is or isn't going to take.) We could certainly also stand to have a larger discussion about whether we should strip gender qualifiers from our category tree and move to spouse or partner on here — but this really shouldn't be just a scattershot of "move one category based on one person's individual preferences, while leaving parallel categories for other states or countries named in wildly inconsistent formats based solely on whether they've had their own first person to confound the gendered terminology issue yet or not" — for example, even though California has never had a woman or openly gay male governor as of today, and thus there are no men in this category yet, it should still retain "gentlemen" so that state-specific subcats of are consistent with each other. (Degendering them to "First Spouses" or "First Partners" would be even better, but until there's a consensus for that, the inclusion or exclusion of "gentlemen" should not be uniquely contingent on whether that individual state has had its own woman or gay male governors yet or not.) Their locations need to be predictable, even if you don't already know the regional gender breakdowns, so we shouldn't be varying from the standard format. Bearcat (talk) 15:52, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose move Scanlan (talk) 11:33, 26 June 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Spouses of Prime Ministers of New Zealand

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus/wait. MER-C 09:47, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Spouses of Prime Ministers of New Zealand to Category:Spouses and partners of Prime Ministers of New Zealand
 * Nominator's rationale: As current Prime Minister is unmarried, and in future this thing would continue. So, better rename it to reflect her partner status in the title. As he is not 'spouse'. Störm   (talk)  21:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose We have to rename the whole category tree of "Spouses". Also, per our article, "Spouse" we better use the term "significant other", which covers all kind of civil unions, formal and informal,and this will open the whole can of worms. So we better keep category for legal marriages. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:56, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Wait, it does not seem an established title yet. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:10, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Read at bottom of the page of NZ govt official article. Travel entitlements within New Zealand for former prime ministers and their spouses or partners. So, at least valid in this case. Störm   (talk)  01:31, 22 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Wait. Shouldn't this be treated for the entire Category:Spouses of national leaders/Category:Official social partners of national leaders tree, rather than just California and New Zealand? The case of France's Valérie Trierweiler and Julie Gayet also comes to mind. I suggest for instance to rename all Spouses of... politicians categories that do not use a more specific title such as First Lady to Spouses and partners of.... Also, I do not see a reason for a capital P in Partner. Place Clichy (talk) 09:19, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I have changed the target according to suggestion. Place your vote. Störm   (talk)  12:10, 21 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Support in theory, though would prefer a better title (and would definitely prefer a lower-case p for "partners"!) Grutness... wha?   15:47, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note - we already have which follows this pattern. If we want a simpler term, though, perhaps "Consorts of..." would make sense? Grutness...  wha?   10:45, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * But consorts is usually reserved for reigning monarch. I prefer 'Spouses and partners of ...'. Störm   (talk)  12:08, 21 June 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Fairies and sprites in television
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 July 6%23Category:Fairies and sprites in television

Category:Fairies or sprites in video games

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fantasy video games (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:20, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fairies or sprites in video games


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING, it simply categorizes all games that feature the element without actually being noteworthy for it. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:56, 11 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose The assessment seems to be the nominator's POV only. Dimadick (talk) 07:14, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It has nothing to do with my opinion. It clearly violates WP:NONDEF by including anything that has a fairy in it, regardless of whether it is noteworthy for having one.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:26, 13 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Fantasy video games. "Fairies and sprites" is a very narrow description of the content of the video games, "fantasy" is broader and suits better. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:06, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge: support Marcocapelle's solution here. Bondegezou (talk) 11:20, 14 June 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Socialist Party (Italy, 2007, De Michelis) politicians
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 July 6%23Category:Socialist Party (Italy, 2007, De Michelis) politicians

Category:Public universities in Greece
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 July 6%23Category:Public universities in Greece

Category:Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing Projects

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy merge WP:C2A. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:00, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing Projects to Category:Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing projects
 * Nominator's rationale: This is WP:MAD! The difference is in capitalisation; where BOINC should be uppercase, but projects should be lowercase. -- Shyam Has Your Anomaly Mitigated (talk) 06:49, 11 June 2019 (UTC)


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