Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 13



Category:Group actions

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:25, 21 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Group actions to Category:Group actions (mathematics)
 * Nominator's rationale: For total clarity: avoids confusion with the other type of "Group action", Group action (sociology), and conforms with main article, Group action (mathematics). Anomalous+0 (talk) 23:40, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Support. "Group action" (or "actions") is a particularly nebulous-sounding phrase. bd2412  T 17:15, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed, nicely put. Anomalous+0 (talk) 04:40, 19 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Bottled water brands in Ghana

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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:27, 21 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting bottled water brands in ghana


 * Nominator's rationale: Recently created category that has only one page populating it. CoolSkittle  (talk) 23:02, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to Category:Ghanaian brands and (neither of which has any other subcats). Oculi (talk) 00:07, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per Oculi. Anomalous+0 (talk) 06:56, 17 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Comics about spiders

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:24, 20 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting comics about spiders


 * Nominator's rationale: This is more suited as a list of spider-man related titles and characters, with one from DC, rather than anything to do with actual spiders. I’d be surprised if there were enough pages to properly fill the category, and so it should be deleted. Killer Moff (talk) 13:59, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as misleading, per nom.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 15:48, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * 'Delete' These are mostly humanoids with "spider powers", not spiders. Plantdrew (talk) 16:03, 14 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:American championships

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 21. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:34, 21 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:American championships to Category:UNKNOWN
 * Nominator's rationale: This category was tagged by an anon editor for speedy renaming to Category:Pan American Championships, but not listed with a rationale. That proposal would be consistent with the article List of Pan American Championships. However, some of the contents do not cover all of the Americas, but North + Caribbean, North + Caribbean + Central, or Central + South. The current name is consistent with others in Category:Continental championships, but I think the best name might be Category:Sports championships in the Americas, following another parent Category:Sports competitions in the Americas. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:04, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Rename to Category:International Sports championships in the Americas. I am generally in agreement with Fayenatic london.  "Pan American Championships" could easily get confused with the Pan American Games and its affiliates, while "Sports championships in the Americas" is more inclusive for non affiliated sports such as sailing (already in the category).  The additional word "International" excludes domestic or generic championships.  Otherwise a national championships, the beer pong championships or even a tri-county championship might be able to be included if it were to attain notability in some way. Trackinfo (talk) 06:27, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:American female rappers

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep the current name. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 18:52, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:American female rappers to Category:American women rappers
 * Nominator's rationale: Instead of female, women is perfect sense. Happypillsjr    ✉    05:26, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose - I often prefer "women" over "female", but in cases like this, where an appreciable number of articles are likely to be about female performers who are under age 18, I think it's probably better to use the broader term. Anomalous+0 (talk) 07:59, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per Category:Female rappers by nationality and Category:American female singers. Oculi (talk) 10:18, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Support rename. I thought there was already a discussion-forged consensus built somewhere that "female" people categories should all be moved to 'women' as more respectful, so those categories may need to be moved too. And I don't think we should be making decisions on Wikipedia on such a basis unless there are legal reasons. Different cultures declare adulthood at different ages. And even still, many groups are still called "women's X" even if the majority of participants are minors, such as high school choirs and junior sports competitions. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 16:02, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Not so. There have been many cfds on this matter, which have gone different ways. Eg this one. In any case there is no chance of picking out one from hundreds and renaming it against the unanimous pattern (in say Category:Female singers by nationality). Oculi (talk) 17:53, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The cfd Women/Men or Female/Male as an adjective dwelt at length on the matter. Oculi (talk) 18:19, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * @Mr. Guye - Thanks for you comment, which actually reinforces my argument as to why it's preferable to use the term "female" in certain cases -- precisely to avoid making those distinctions. Anomalous+0 (talk) 23:46, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose. I support this in principle, but not as a one-off. Category:Female rappers and it subcats should all be consistently named, and I see no reason to rename Category:American female rappers  to "women" while leaving the others unchanged. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:31, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It goes up to Category:Female musicians, so it would be quite an undertaking. Oculi (talk) 10:17, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Not really, Oculi.
 * Category:Female musicians has 982 subcats, of which 453 contain the word "female". It would take me about 20 minutes to create the nomination listing and tag the categories, if anyone wants to write the rationale. Alternatively, a request at WP:BOTREQ should generate a prompt and helpful response, because this is an easy job for anyone with the tools.-- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:08, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * if or another BAG member wants to trial Bots/Requests for approval/DannyS712 bot 13, I can do it - that task was specifically designed to tag all of the subcategories of a category with CfD notices. --DannyS712 (talk) 00:14, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * See my comment at the BRFA. This is one of the cases where you script wouldn't work (because it wouldn't preserve capitalisation). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:09, 21 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Temporary Wikipedian user pages

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. WP:G4 per WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 July 12. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)


 * Propose deleting temporary wikipedian user pages


 * Nominator's rationale: No longer in use and a similar category Category:Temporary Wikipedian userpages was deleted a few years ago. Goveganplease (talk) 03:52, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Order of Belize

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. I have made a list of the category's contents at WT:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 13. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:35, 20 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Recipients of the Order of Belize
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:PERFCAT and WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
 * When foreign leaders visit Belize, or vice versa, one of these awards is given out as souvenir to commemorate the visit. Presidents Ma Ying-jeou of the Republic of China, Vicente Fox of Mexico, and Fidel Castro of Cuba are not defined by this award. If you want to see the clutter this type of category creates at the article level, take a look the train wreck at the bottom of this article. The only Belizean in the category also received a higher ranking medal from Belize and I listified the contents of the category here in the main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:11, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Background In the past, we've deleted similar categories for visiting officials here, here, here, here, here, here and here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:11, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Strongly support - Categories like this for lesser awards just create horrendous clutter and discourage readers from making use of the category system. Anomalous+0 (talk) 08:04, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete after listifying if necessary. This diplomatic awards to foreign heads of state/government are intrinsically NN.  A typical OCAWARD case.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:26, 17 March 2019 (UTC)


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