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Category:Cory Lee albums

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 08:10, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cory lee albums


 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant – empty category. Richard3120 (talk) 23:39, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Just FYI-If a category is empty, it can be tagged CSD C1 and be deleted after 7 days. You don't need to initiate a discussion for it at CfD. Now that the category is involved in a CfD, it cannot be tagged for speedy deletion. If you see an empty category in the future, please just tag it for speedy deletion rather than opening a Cfd discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 01:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * my apologies, you are absolutely correct... I was creating other CfDs in a rush before I had to go out, and the possibility of a speedy deletion completely slipped my mind. Richard3120 (talk) 01:50, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * However, I don't recommend that the person who emptied the category be the one who also tags it as empty. I'm not saying that the articles shouldn't have been redirected. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 00:57, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem, Richard3120. This sure isn't the first incidence I've come across, I just thought I'd add a comment to the CfD discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 02:33, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Cory Lee songs

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:14, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cory lee songs


 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant – all songs by the artist have already been redirected to the artist's article as they are not notable. Richard3120 (talk) 23:37, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. We keep songs-by-artist categories if there is even one song article in the category ... but in this case there are zero article. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:30, 29 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Alexz Johnson albums

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. Should a proposal raise the minimum, however, this should be rediscussed. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 21:16, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting alexz johnson albums


 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant – only contains one album, which is a soundtrack album, all the artist's other albums are not notable and have been redirected to the artist's article. Richard3120 (talk) 23:34, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. We keep songs-by-artist categories if there is even one song article in the category. This categ has one article, so it's a keep. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:31, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I am closing discussions like this regularly. There is always consensus to keep, e.g. on yesterday's page in Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_March_21. However with the frequency of delete nominations I wonder if a proposal at WP:ALBUMS to raise the bar from minimum 1 to minimum 2 articles per category would be useful. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:30, 30 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Alexz Johnson songs

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:14, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting alexz johnson songs


 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant – contains just one song, which has already been redirected to the artist's article, as it is not notable. Richard3120 (talk) 23:30, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. We keep songs-by-artist categories if there is even one song article in the category ... but in this case there are zero article. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:30, 29 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Michigan Department of Corrections

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:13, 30 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting michigan department of corrections


 * Nominator's rationale: No idea why this was created: It's completely unnecessary as it is entirely redundant to Category:Prisons in Michigan. Anomalous+0 (talk) 23:26, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per WP:OVERLAPCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:00, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Looks like a duplicate. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:08, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:ATP World Tour Masters 1000

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 16:36, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:ATP World Tour Masters 1000 to Category:ATP Tour Masters 1000
 * Nominator's rationale: per main article ATP Tour Masters 1000. The latter was moved in January without discussion so this is not eligible for speedy renaming under WP:C2D, unless anyone can add a citation here for the official name. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:50, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Support, their own website provides this new name and I can't see a reason why reliable sources would still use the old name. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:49, 30 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Former Victoria's Secret Angels

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:14, 30 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Former Victoria's Secret Angels to Category:Victoria's Secret Angels
 * Nominator's rationale: Absolutely no need to distinguish between the two in two separate categories. There are no categories for former United States Senators from Illinois (in the case of politicians like Barack Obama) or former American female country singers (in the case of musicians like Taylor Swift). Hugely redundant. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 20:19, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Support, in the end they will all become former angels so that does not distinguish them. However I wonder if the parent Category:Victoria's Secret Angels is eligible for deletion per WP:PERFCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:52, 30 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Mint 400 Records album covers

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 April 8. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting mint 400 records album covers


 * Nominator's rationale: Absent-mindedly, I nominated Category:Album covers by label rather than this root category. The deletion result of the parent shows there’s no need for a “by label” categorization of album covers. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 14:38, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment - The category contains album covers for label compilations (it did not at first). Without this, the image would be categorized with only "Album covers." - NorthPark1417 (talk) 15:17, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Query - since File:1967_album.jpg is the album cover for a Mint 400 Records album, what is the objection to categorising it as such? Oculi (talk) 18:46, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It just seem like a road that we wouldn't want to go down for every record label to group such disparate and otherwise unrelated album covers. What interest/point would there be to categorize File:Jingle_Bell_Jazz.png and File:Acdcironman.jpg in Category:Columbia Records album covers? At least when looking in Category:Melissa Etheridge album covers, someone might actually be interested in viewing the other covers by that artist. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 05:04, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


 * For reference, the parent category was deleted per this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:00, 31 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Coffea drinks

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. For the record, I'll put the subcat  into, and  into the parent . – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:11, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Coffea drinks to Category:Coffee drinks
 * Nominator's rationale: Hello coffea ? suspect the spelling is a problem JarrahTree 13:25, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose . @JarrahTree, it's not a mis-spelling. See Coffea. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:50, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * IN that case withdraw - there appeared to be no specific link to that - thanks for pointing that out JarrahTree 14:57, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * How about merging per WP:SMALLCAT? It is not clear from the article if more coffea drinks exist beside coffee. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:14, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * you are most welcome - it is a long tine since I have been visited by the cat police (10 years ago + ?) when if a cat was created with no likelihoood of getting to an optimal number of articles into the cat, there was trouble - these days cats get created with smaller numbers and the issue seems to be no longer an issue.... JarrahTree 15:18, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * I'd support a SMALLCAT-based merge. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:12, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Religion in Brazil by city
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete both. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:15, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting religion in brazil by city


 * Propose deleting religion in brazil by state


 * Nominator's rationale: delete as redundant category layers. Coverage of religion in Brazil at local and state level is very limited (apart from places of worship which already has its own category tree). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:36, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - These categories have almost no utility.- MrX 🖋 22:04, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete both. These single-item categories are not part of a universal series, so no need to keep. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:33, 29 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Tekugu remakes of Tamil films
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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete per WP:G6 (uncontroversial housekeeping). Simple mis-spelling, and the category is already empty. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:22, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting tekugu remakes of tamil films


 * Nominator's rationale: Simple spelling mistake, and redundant to Category:Telugu remakes of Tamil films. <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  03:25, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Springs (mechanical)
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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 April 8. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:37, 8 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose eEnaming Category:Springs (mechanical) to A. Category:Springs (device) or B. Category:Springs (devices)
 * Nominator's rationale: Per C2D, consistency with main article's name
 * I nominated this category for a speedy rename in WP:CFDS to match the main article, Spring (device)‎. The underlying nomination wasn't controversial but it started a discussion with about whether the paranthetical disambiguation should be a singular "(device)" or a plural "(devices)". - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:31, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * Category:Springs (mechanical) to Category:Springs (device) — C2D per Spring (device)‎. (I wasn't certain if the parenthetical "device" should be plural.) RevelationDirect (talk) 18:15, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
 * That's a good question. I guess it comes down to whether this is a topic category about the topic of springs, a set category that contains examples of springs (technically, C2D would not apply), or a set-and-topic category. -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:24, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It's probably is a set-and-topic category, as it also contains articles like Hooke's law or Spring steel. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:47, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree it's both set and topic so I think that means we're going with "devices" Category:Springs (devices) as we discuss how to implement a speedy change. If this is controversial, I'm happy to move it to CFD (or maybe to Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion). RevelationDirect (talk) 00:06, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that would be best. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:29, 4 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Lean Toward Option B, Favor Either Rename This is both a set and topic so I lean toward the parenthetical being plural. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:30, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep; IMHO the current name works better than either of the proposed ways to match the main article. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:09, 26 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Jewish fascists
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:31, 8 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting jewish fascists


 * Nominator's rationale: Appears to be a case of overcategorization at the intersection of ethnicity (or religion) and political ideology. - MrX 🖋 01:29, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose There are categories of fascists across many other nationalities. This particular categorization also takes into account the unique instances of crossover between Zionism and fascism, such as the group Lehi, Abba Ahimeir and his Revisionist Maximalism movement, and Uri Zvi Greenberg (whose fascist politics are otherwise difficult to learn about in his own article). Docktuh (talk • contribs) 02:24, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, apart from a few supporters of Mussolini (who were primarily Italian fascists rather than Jewish fascists) it is not clear whether people in this category really were fascists. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:10, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Abba Ahimeir openly declared himself a fascist. The Lehi under Stern were fascists. Revisionist Maximalism was a fascist ideology. I don't see how that's "unclear". Docktuh (talk) 04:55, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The Lehi is currently stated to be a paramilitary Zionist group; if they were a fascist group it requires rewriting the article. You are right about Revisionist Maximalism (it wasn't quite clear from the biographies) but then I would suggest creating Category:Revisionist maximalists parented to the Zionism and to the Fascism tree. They have nothing common with e.g. Dan Burros or Angelo Oliviero Olivetti. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The Lehi's ideology (as it says in the article) was fascist until 1942, the year Stern died. Afterwards they shifted to National Bolshevism, a form of neo-fascism. Docktuh (talk) 13:58, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Docktuh's arguments. Dimadick (talk) 15:31, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep -- There is a strong link between political and religious beliefs: one tends to drive the other. In this case, the existence of the category might be unexpected in view of what the Nazis did to the Jews.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:12, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete "Jewish" is not a nationality, so Docktuh's comments are irrelevant, as for Peterkingiron's opposition suffice to say that "Jewish" as used at WP is not a religious category (see Category:Jewish atheists) so that comment is irrelevant too. We don't have fascists by ethnicity (as opposed to nationality). And although we have Category:Christian fascists‎, it contains people who believe rather than merely have some portion of Christian ancestry. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:53, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Unnecessary category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.207.14.18 (talk) 06:35, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Jewish anti-communists
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 05:12, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting jewish anti-communists


 * Nominator's rationale: Appears to be a case of overcategorization at the intersection of ethnicity (or religion) and political ideology. - MrX 🖋 01:28, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose There are categories of anti-communists across almost all other nationalities. This doesn't appear to be overcategorization.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Docktuh (talk • contribs) 02:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * "Jewish" is not a nationality.- MrX 🖋 10:17, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, the large amount of the articles in this category concerns American anti-communists, with unclear ties between anti-communism and Jewish ethnicity. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:14, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Docktuh's arguments. Dimadick (talk) 15:31, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose for much the same reasons as with fascists above. Religious beliefs are liable to lead to political ones.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Hungarian Heritage Award Winners
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:26, 29 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Hungarian Heritage Award Winners
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
 * The Hungarian Heritage Award article is a pretty vague, there's only one article in the category, and that article makes no mention of the award. For what it's worth, I "listified" that one person in the main article. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:23, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * DElete probably a NN award. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:14, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Motorsports Hall of Fame of America inductees
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