Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 27



Category:Buildings and structures in Hodonín

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:18, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Hodonín to Category:Hodonín and Category:Buildings and structures in the South Moravian Region
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, just 1 article and also very few articles in parent Category:Hodonín. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:28, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom.--Darwinek (talk) 22:47, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Hodonín has a populated of under 30,000 people, which it too small to need multiple categories.  (I am not saying we should not keep "people from" it).  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:04, 30 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Buildings and structures in Ghardaïa

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:22, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Ghardaïa to Category:Buildings and structures in Ghardaïa Province and Category:Ghardaïa
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, only 1 article in the category and only a few in both parent categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:18, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Health awareness days

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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 20:48, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Health awareness days to Category:Health awareness campaigns
 * Nominator's rationale: Not all the articles are about days, but there aren't enough awareness months to justify a separate category Rathfelder (talk) 20:31, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Suggest creating a new parent category because if renamed the many articles about days would be removed from the tree of Category:Awareness days. Perhaps a better name for this parent category is Category:Health observances - note that Category:Awareness days is a subcategory of Category:Observances. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * That seems sensible. Rathfelder (talk) 09:34, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I withdraw this proposal and adopt Marcocapelle's solution. Rathfelder (talk) 11:45, 31 March 2019 (UTC)


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==== Category:2016 murders in Denmark, 2016 murders in Turkey, 2018 murders in Iraq, Category:2018 murders in Pakistan, Category:2019 murders in Pakistan, Category:March 2016 Istanbul bombing ==== 
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge per amended nomination. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:27, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose upmerging Category:2016 murders in Denmark to Category:2016 crimes in Denmark and also to Category:2010s murders in Denmark and Category:2016 murders in Europe;
 * Category:2018 murders in Iraq to Category:2018 crimes in Iraq and also to Category:2010s murders in Iraq and Category:2018 murders in Asia;
 * Category:2018 murders in Pakistan to Category:2018 crimes in Pakistan and also to Category:2010s murders in Pakistan and Category:2018 murders in Asia;
 * Category:2019 murders in Pakistan to Category:2019 crimes in Pakistan and also to Category:2010s murders in Pakistan and Category:2019 murders in Asia;
 * Category:2016 murders in Turkey to Category:2016 crimes in Turkey and also to Category:2010s murders in Turkey, Category:2016 murders in Europe and Category:2016 murders in Asia;
 * Nominator's rationale: Most countries do not justify a "murders by year" category; although it does as here require an upmerge to three categories (four for Turkey); Denmark, Iraq and Turkey have only one subcategory for murders by year, while Pakistan has two. Hugo999 (talk) 12:09, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree in relation to cats which have very few articles in them, such as 16 murders in Denmark & 18 murders in Iraq, but not in relation to those which have several articles. The 16 in Turkey & 18 in Pakistan cats easily have enough articles for those cats to be justified. The 19 in Pakistan cat should also be kept as it will almost certainly soon have more articles in it. Jim Michael (talk) 02:53, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Would agree to retaining the 2010s categories by year for Pakistan and Turkey, but with additional categories by year for the 2010s, so that new articles for Turkey in 2018 or 2019 (say) would go immediately into a by-year category. And consider deleting category Category:March 2016 Istanbul bombing which contains one article with the same title and apparently the same categories (add any missing to the article). Hugo999 (talk) 07:50, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment 16 is probably the only year in Turkey which has enough articles for a Murder by year cat. I agree with deleting the March 16 Istanbul cat, because there's no point in having a cat which only has one article in it. Jim Michael (talk) 08:24, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Further comment could we proceed on the basis of upmerging the categories Category:March 2016 Istanbul bombing, Category:2016 murders in Denmark and Category:2018 murders in Iraq as there seems to be agreement on them (& retaining the Pakistan and Turkey categories). Hugo999 (talk) 10:30, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, because the first 3 only have one article in each of them & are unlikely to have any other articles in them in the future. Jim Michael (talk) 18:39, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Support amended proposal. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:00, 4 April 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Religion in Northampton

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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:23, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Religion in Northampton to Category:Northampton
 * Nominator's rationale: The category contains only 2 items. Merge only the article, not the sub-cat which is already within other sub-cats. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:53, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. It now has 4 pages. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:46, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, I've added a synagogue too. Withdrawn. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:23, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Congregational churches in Cambridge

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:25, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Congregational churches in Cambridge to Category:Congregational churches in Cambridgeshire
 * Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one article, which is already categorised within the sibling Category:United Reformed churches in Cambridge. There may be scope to expand the category for the county, but no need to keep this one for the city. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:24, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


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Churches in Essex

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:22, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Churches in Epping Forest District by denomination to Category:Churches in Epping Forest District
 * Propose merging Category:Churches in Harlow (district) by denomination to Category:Churches in Harlow
 * Propose merging Category:Churches in Thurrock by denomination to Category:Churches in Thurrock
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category layer, each containing only one sub-cat. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:19, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Support Much needed removal of extra layers in the religion tree. RevelationDirect (talk) 22:48, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


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Churches in Harlow

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:23, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Churches in Harlow (district) to Category:Churches in Harlow
 * Propose merging Category:Church of England church buildings in Harlow (district) to  Category:Church of England church buildings in Harlow
 * Nominator's rationale: Duplicate categories; the categories for Harlow district are just called Harlow. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:06, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Support Much needed removal of extra layers in the religion tree. RevelationDirect (talk) 22:48, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Organisations based in Europe

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 * The result of the discussion was: Procedural close until this RFC is closed. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 15:27, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Organisations based in Europe to Category:Organizations based in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Organisations based in Europe by country to Category:Organizations based in Europe by country
 * Propose renaming Category:Organisations based in Europe by subject to Category:Organizations based in Europe by subject
 * Propose renaming Category:Defunct organisations based in Europe to Category:Defunct organizations based in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Organisations related to the European Union to Category:Organizations related to the European Union
 * Propose renaming Category:European organisation stubs to Category:European organization stubs
 * Propose renaming Category:Wikipedia categories named after organisations based in Europe to Category:Wikipedia categories named after organizations based in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Business organisations based in Europe by country to Category:Business organizations based in Europe by country
 * Propose renaming Category:Business organisations in Europe to Category:Business organizations based in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Political organisations in Europe by country to Category:Political organizations in Europe by country
 * Propose renaming Category:Political organisations in Europe to Category:Political organizations in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Feminist organisations in Europe to Category:Feminist organizations in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Women's organisations in Europe to Category:Women's organizations in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Cultural organisations in Europe by country to Category:Cultural organizations in Europe by country
 * Propose renaming Category:Cultural organisations in Europe to Category:Cultural organizations in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Arts organisations of Europe by country to Category:Arts organizations in Europe by country
 * Propose renaming Category:Arts organisations of Europe to Category:Arts organizations in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Journalism organisations in Europe to Category:Journalism organizations in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Pan-European trade and professional organisations to Category:Pan-European trade and professional organizations
 * Propose renaming Category:European disability organisations to Category:European disability organizations
 * Propose renaming Category:Educational organisations in Europe by country to Category:Educational organizations in Europe by country
 * Propose renaming Category:Educational organisations in Europe to Category:Educational organizations in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Information technology organisations in Europe to Category:Information technology organizations in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Medical and health organisations based in Europe to Category:Medical and health organizations based in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Non-profit organisations based in Europe to Category:Non-profit organizations based in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Religious organisations in Europe to Category:Religious organizations in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Sports organisations of Europe to Category:Sports organizations in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Transport organisations based in Europe to Category:Transport organizations based in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Youth organisations in Europe to Category:Youth organizations in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Baltic organisations to Category:Baltic organizations
 * Propose renaming Category:Nordic organisations to Category:Nordic organizations
 * Propose renaming Category:Lists of organisations based in Europe to Category:Lists of organizations based in Europe


 * Nominator's rationale: Consistent with other sub categories of Category:Organizations by continent. No reason to be concerned about local spelling usage for a continental category. Rathfelder (talk) 11:03, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Support - agree fully with nom. Local spelling should be at the local (country) level. Moreover Category:Organisations based in Europe by country is roughly 50:50 between 's' and 'z'. Oculi (talk) 11:20, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, very sensible. Please add several immediate sub-cats and the 20 subject-related sub-cats of Category:Organisations based in Europe by subject. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:29, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for including relevant sub-cats. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:29, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, very sensible standardization. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:38, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, consistent spelling for categories that have no WP:ENGVAR issues. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:45, 1 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose Aside from one university in one country, who in Europe uses "organizations"? Several European jurisdictions (one very large and important) use English as a primary language, and they all use "organisations", and the language has very heavy use in many of the others; see chart at right, which notes that the majority of residents of nine countries (excluding former British colonies) claim to speak English, and most of them will have learnt British English, not a variety using "organizations".  This is not South America, with only one small country using English primarily and the rest having minimal use for it.  Nyttend backup (talk) 22:52, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Organization is good English spelling. See Spelling differences: -ise, -ize. Rathfelder (talk) 08:34, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * On a personal note, I belong to the >80% of Dutch people who learned English at school. Contrary to what is stated, we did not learn British English, but we learned (some of) the differences between British English and American English, with the advice to use BE in conversations with British people and AE with American people. Here at en.wp I am still doing my best using "surely" in discussions with American editors and "certainly" in discussions with British or Irish editors - although I can't promise 100% accuracy. There are Dutch schools specifically advertising that they teach Cambridge English, e.g., however they are exceptions. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:48, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Of all the differences between forms of English across the world the different spellings of organization is probably one of the last things any teacher of English is going to bother about. All this fuss is a completely misguided attack on what is seen as American linguistic imperialism. Rathfelder (talk) 07:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * @Nyttend backup/Nyttend you wrote see chart at right, which notes that the majority of residents of nine countries (excluding former British colonies) claim to speak English, and most of them will have learnt British English, not a variety using "organizations".
 * The chart itself says precisely nothing about what variant of English those people learn. The chat's description page links to http://ec.europa.eu/commfrontoffice/publicopinion/archives/ebs/ebs_243_en.pdf, and I found nothing there about which variant of English was used.  If I missed something, please point me to the correct age number.  Or is your statement about those people learning British English just an unevidenced assumption? -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:47, 4 April 2019 (UTC)


 * RFC. I have opened an RFC about whether to standardise on the "Z" spelling in descriptive category names, i.e. to use "Organization" in all cases. I estimate that this affects the naming of about ten thousand categories.
 * See Village pump (policy). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Religion in Kievan Rus'

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:18, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Religion in Kievan Rus' to Category:Kievan Rus'
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, unnecessary container category with only one subcategory. Note that more merge targets are not needed since the subcategory is already part of Category:History of Christianity in Russia, Category:History of Christianity in Ukraine and Category:History of Christianity in Belarus. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:04, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Support - Impedes navigation; 'nuf said. Anomalous+0 (talk) 10:26, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Support WP:OCLOCATION given the current and likely future contents. RevelationDirect (talk) 22:45, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the National Service Medal (Norway)

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:17, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose Deleting Category:Recipients of the National Service Medal (Norway)
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
 * The National Service Medal (Norway) main article said that everyone who served 18 months national services automatically recieves this award. It also says that such 18 months of service was mandatory. Of all the award categories I've nominated over the years, this is hands down the most ludicrous! - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:42, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * D-E-L-E-T-E - I.am.speechless. Anomalous+0 (talk) 10:20, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Bondegezou (talk) 10:21, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete -- This is clearly a NN award. We discourage categories even for campaign medals (or stars), and this is much worse.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:18, 30 March 2019 (UTC)


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Category:New Zealand Business Hall of Fame inductees

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:17, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose Listifying Category:New Zealand Business Hall of Fame inductees
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
 * Wikipedia doesn't have a main article for the New Zealand Business Hall of Fame but their web site is here. It's an annual dinner that gives awards to 8 or so people a year. Several of the articles in the category mentione the award in the lede but without exception that was added by the creator of this category. This event doesn't seem defining to the individual biography articles but it would be good as a list article. Normally I list the winners in the main article but I put them here on the creator's talk page so no work is lost. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:41, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Bondegezou (talk) 10:21, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * DElete -- OCAWARDS clearly applies. Listify if necessary.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:37, 30 March 2019 (UTC)


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