Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 May 17



Category:Ravi (rapper)

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 10:08, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ravi (rapper)


 * Nominator's rationale: Only one related article which doesn't necessitate the need for an eponymous category. WP:OCEPON. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 21:47, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - per usual. Oculi (talk) 08:43, 18 May 2019 (UTC)


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Category:The Disciples of Apocalypse
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Category:Ring of Honor stables and teams

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 03:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Ring of Honor stables and teams to Category:Ring of Honor teams and stables
 * Nominator's rationale: Consistent with all other categories in Category:American promotions teams and stables  Galatz גאליץ שיחה Talk  14:12, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Support - per Category:Professional wrestling teams and stables etc. Oculi (talk) 19:05, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Philip Wylie

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Those who defend the category have not explained why this category defies the usual application of WP:OCEPON. A large number of pages within sub-categories does not provide a rationale to keep a sparsely-populated parent. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:25, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting philip wylie


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON -- wooden superman  08:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose, Keep, because this categories for people are very important and necessary. They significantly improve the navigation in the field of speculative fiction and play a unifying role for all topics related to these writers.--Yasnodark (talk) 12:59, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note WP:CANVASSING by @Yasnodark: . -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:16, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I just invited users to discuss.--Yasnodark (talk) 13:23, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OCEPON. The works are already categorised appropriately. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:15, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The category contains 2 subcategories and one article, in my opinion this is quite enough and the reader can see them together in this category.--Yasnodark (talk) 13:21, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * This is not enough to satisfy WP:OCEPON, which states "even most notable people lack enough directly related articles or subcategories to populate eponymous categories effectively". -- wooden  superman  13:41, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: if this is deleted, then "see also" links should be added between the sub-categories (and between those and the article, if not already present). – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:57, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think having eleven (twelve, if you count the article about the author) articles is enough to have a category for the person. If it were only 3-4 articles, it would be different. I think this meets the nebulous threshold established by WP:OCEPON. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 17:09, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - per Nihonjoe above. Oculi (talk) 20:59, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Fully Support Deletion - There is ZERO need for this category. I am going to repeat word for word what I just posted below regarding Category:William Goldman:


 * Even the "other" subcat, Category:Films based on works by Philip Wylie, belongs quite properly in Category:Works by Philip Wylie, which I have just added as a parent. Ordinarily, I would have gone ahead and finished the job by removing the redundant parent, Category:Philip Wylie, but I left it there purely out of consideration for this discussion. The bottom line is, Category:Works by Philip Wylie is absolutely all that is needed to provide a home for all of the subcategories. Keeping *this* category would fly in the face of The.Most.Basic. of all criteria for creation of valid categories, eponymous or otherwise. Anomalous+0 (talk) 10:30, 11 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete, after Anomalous+0's previous addition, the Works subcategory appears to be sufficient. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:50, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Category Category:Films based on works by Philip Wylie cannot be placed in Category:Works by Philip Wylie category because the first one is about films and the second one is about literary works. These are parallel categories and they should be united by the category Category:Philip Wylie. Films cann`t be in the category of books.--Yasnodark (talk) 15:43, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * These films can very well be a subcategory since they are based on these books. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:38, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Due to potential canvassing by, it is impossible to determine consensus from this discussion.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Invalid OS (talk) 14:06, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OCEPON. The "works by" categorization scheme is not just for literary works. The novels should be placed in Category:Novels by Philip Wylie, which in turn can be added to Category:Works by Philip Wylie, and still no need for the eponymous parent/grandparent. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 22:06, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: This discussion has been listed at WP:AN/RFC. Invalid OS (talk) 16:16, 24 May 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Merge articles by quality

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 10:21, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting merge articles by quality
 * Propose deleting merge articles by importance
 * Nominator's rationale: Categories for the WikiProject Merge assessment department, a department that never got off the ground and never tagged a single article. Trialpears (talk) 12:16, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not quite true that the project "never got off the ground or tagged an article". Template:WikiProject Merge Copied populated these categories. I boldly removed the Assessment section from WikiProject Merge in January 2016 per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Merge/Archive 1 and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Merge, there is no clear need or consensus for WikiProject Merge/Assessment. Also this edit to WikiProject Merge/PMGTPGT with the rationale We shouldn't make mainspace pages a permanent part of {WikiProject Merge}. Once a merge proposal is resolved, our interest in the page is done. {WikiProject Merge} should only tag pages that are part of administration of the merge project itself. I removed Template:WikiProject Merge and Template:WikiProject Merge Copied from the relatively few Talk: namespace pages that transcluded them in January 2016. EXAMPLE. See the bottom of this version to note the cats it populated. I made a few edits that depopulated these categories, but then I never got around to putting them up for deletion. In any event assessing "quality" and "importance" represents too much "scope creep" for the merge project. There should be some sort of triage to prioritize merges by need. Parallel biographies of the same person should be given high priority for merging, regardless of the quality or importance of the article itself. It's unclear whether "importance" refers to the content or importance of the article itself, or the importance of the need to merge it. – wbm1058 (talk) 19:43, 19 May 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Antivirus software that uses GTK

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Antivirus software. (non-admin closure)  Invalid OS (talk) 16:20, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Antivirus software that uses GTK to Category:Antivirus software
 * Nominator's rationale: Populated by only one page. CoolSkittle  (talk) 18:00, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:55, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Buildings and structures in Comayagua
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Category:Buildings and structures in Chełm
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Category:MSNBC program hosts

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted, see here (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 04:22, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:MSNBC program hosts to Category:MSNBC people
 * Nominator's rationale: I don't find it necessary to have two categories with MSNBC associated people. Most people in the "MSNBC people" category are current or former hosts/analysts. Merging these people in with the above category should be appropriate. Tinton5 (talk) 01:30, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Possibly delete as it sounds as if it fails WP:PERF -- performance by performer. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Musers
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Category:The Office (UK TV series) episodes
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