Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 November 30



Category:Rebellion of the Seimens and Home Guard

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:23, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting rebellion of the seimens and home guard


 * Nominator's rationale: An obscure rebellion doesn't merit a category. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:26, 30 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 *  Object to this nom the article Rebellion of the Seimens and Home Guard, which probably ought to be called Rebellion of the Seimeni and Home Guard will be left uncategorised. We certainly do not need this category, but the parents of this category need to be applied to the article before deletion -- I also wonder if we do not need a wider rebellions parent too.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:20, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Good point. I solved this problem by adding the article to four additional categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:58, 1 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Mow support -- but I still suspect that the article name needs to be changed. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:03, 4 December 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Haymaker (band) albums

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:23, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting haymaker (band) albums


 * Nominator's rationale: One article in category that redirects to a band member's article (the band article was recently redirected after an AfD discussion - ChrisWar666 (talk) 22:00, 30 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Support, in essence the category is empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:53, 1 December 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Heavily tattooed people
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Category:People by sexual orientation

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 09:20, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People by sexual orientation to Category:LGBT people by sexual orientation
 * Propose renaming Category:Men by sexual orientation to Category:LGBT men by sexual orientation
 * Propose renaming Category:Women by sexual orientation to Category:LGBT women by sexual orientation
 * Nominator's rationale: There is no "Heterosexual people" category and never will be, therefore it makes more sense to name this for all the LGBT people contained, doing so would avoid confusion.★Trekker (talk) 15:09, 30 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I also propose that the same should be done for it's child categories Category:Men by sexual orientation and Category:Women by sexual orientation.★Trekker (talk) 15:11, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. I have taken the liberty to add the two subcats to the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:49, 30 November 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Cambridge, Massachusetts city council members

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated, without prejudice to future nominations regarding the second comma. MER-C 09:21, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Cambridge, Massachusetts city council members to Category:Cambridge, Massachusetts City Council members
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename to match other categories and to match name of body. TM 23:41, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

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 * Support per WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:28, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Only now I notice the comment of User:SMcCandlish after this similar discussion. Presumably the discussion about the comma can take place later, in a batch nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:24, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Support except use Category:Cambridge, Massachusetts, City Council members. Bracketing commas always come in pairs. WP:RM has been over this many times.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  16:52, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't have a personal view on the second comma. If that is how it is always done, then it should be applied here as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:20, 1 December 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Works about Jacques Lacan

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:24, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting works about jacques lacan


 * Nominator's rationale: Only one article, unlikely that there will be sufficient contents to justify a category in the near future. The article should simply be listed in the two parent cats. Anomalous+0 (talk) 00:18, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak delete with no prejudice against re-creation. I found a couple of other articles which could be categorised here, and it's more than likely there will be others at some point, but I've no objection of deletion for the time being. Grutness... wha?   07:12, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - The category is up to four articles and a redirect now, which is probably enough to consider keeping it. What say you, ? Grutness... wha?   02:02, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Two articles do not really belong in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I only see two articles that look like they can properly be described as "Works about Jacques Lacan". The others fall short in my estimation. Anomalous+0 (talk) 12:06, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

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Category:FC Barcelona youth players

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 10:17, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:FC Barcelona youth players to Category:FC Barcelona players
 * Nominator's rationale: Per long-standing WP:FOOTBALL consensus, at category level we do not differentiate between youth and senior - see this (which resulted in this) and this and this (the latter two both about this category). As such the category should be merged with the parent category and then deleted. GiantSnowman 16:43, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 16:44, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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 * Merge to . Matthew hk (talk) 08:10, 15 December 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Transformers human characters

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Transformers characters manually. MER-C 10:25, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting transformers human characters


 * Nominator's rationale: Category only includes seven pages, two of which are already nominated for deletion, one is a redirect and two are in fact G.I. Joe characters instead of Transformers characters. The only surviving articles will be Ginrai and Carly Witwicky at most. So there are simply too few pages to deserve a separate category. Delete this. J I P  &#124; Talk 08:28, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If the category is not kept, most of the content should remain within the Transformers characters tree, right? Do you have any specific suggestions about this? Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see what Cobra Commander and Tomax and Xamot are doing in the category in the first place, but the remaining articles could be moved up to the Category:Transformers characters. J I P  &#124; Talk 08:29, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

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 * Upmerge the two actual Transformers characters and remove it from the rest. TTN (talk) 20:25, 5 December 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Standing committees of the Senate of Canada

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 10:15, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting standing committees of the senate of canada


 * Nominator's rationale: Empty category (WP:EMPTYCAT). We had six standing committees, which have been upmerged to Category:Committees of the Senate of Canada in a bold move. I wasn't sure if eligible for CSD #C1, so thought it best to run it through CfD. Friendly ping to . Doug Mehus T · C  02:33, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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 * Comment, if the category is deleted ormerged, the standing committee articles should be added to Category:Standing committees of the Parliament of Canada. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:15, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Thanks. I can do that outside of CfD pre- or post-close. Doug Mehus T · C  18:56, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

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Category:Anti-fascists by ethnicity

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 10:26, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Anti-fascists by ethnicity to Category:Anti-fascists by nationality
 * Nominator's rationale: The only two subcategories are for Jews, who are considered a nationality as well as an ethnicity. I'm not convinced that ethnicity/anti-fascism meets WP:OCEGRS, but nationality definitely does. b</b><b style="color: White">uidh</b><b style="color: White">e</b> 18:48, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

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 * Jewish is not a nationality (while Israeli is) and since the Jewish subcats already are in Category:Anti-fascists by religion this category can simply be deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:45, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Jewish is a nationality, or at least it is considered as such in Israel and Eastern Europe (It is not a citizenship however.) <b style="color: White">b</b><b style="color: White">uidh</b><b style="color: White">e</b> 00:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Why was the category emptied out of process? This is expressly frowned upon in the deletion template. Please restore the contents immediately. Anomalous+0 (talk) 11:54, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete do not merge. We have never used "Jewish" in our nationality category tree. In eastern Europe nationality has at times been used in a way that is closer to ethnicity. Nationality as used on Wikipedia does not include Jews.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:14, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

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Category:Jeux Sans Frontières
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 09:21, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Jeux Sans Frontières to Category:Jeux sans frontières
 * Nominator's rationale: C2D: Consistency with main article's name Mvcg66b3r (talk) 05:26, 30 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Could have been listed as speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:01, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yep. French doesn't capitalize the way English does.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  16:53, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Support per nominator. J I P  &#124; Talk 09:57, 2 December 2019 (UTC)


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