Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 October 10



Category:Kingdom of Denmark

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 * The result of the discussion was: do not merge. MER-C 10:50, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Kingdom of Denmark to Category:Denmark
 * Nominator's rationale: Why are there two categories for the same country? The main article is at Denmark which notes that the official name is the Kingdom of Denmark. However, on Wikipedia the common name is used. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 22:29, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment, the answer to the question is easy: Category:Denmark is about Denmark proper, while Category:Kingdom of Denmark includes the Faroer Islands and Greenland. Finding a solution for that problem is less easy. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:05, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment, even "common names" relating to Danish politics are likely to be unfamiliar to many English speakers. The Dutch Category:Kingdom of the Netherlands and Category:Netherlands are similar. TSventon (talk) 09:20, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose They are different entities.Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:48, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose. It is confusing, and thus is not ideal and could potentially be renamed for clarity if anybody can figure out a good way to make the categories less confusing — but Marcocapelle is correct about the distinction: "Denmark" is the country that sticks out of northern Germany, while the "Kingdom of Denmark" is that plus the Faroe Islands plus Greenland. There is indeed a necessary distinction here, it's just not as easy to figure out how to communicate that in a way that doesn't look redundant to the uninitiated. Bearcat (talk) 15:56, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose - the parent Kingdom of Denmark is mostly at present what it should be at best: a container of containers category for topics in the 3 constituent parts of the monarchy, namely Faroe, Greenland and Denmark proper. Place Clichy (talk) 08:51, 21 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:People from Pietersburg

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 10:06, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People from Pietersburg to Category:People from Polokwane
 * Nominator's rationale: To bring it in line with the city's current and most common name. Cacrats (talk) 21:04, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename per WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:09, 11 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Musicians from Queens, New York City

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 10:06, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Musicians from Queens, New York City to Category:Musicians from Queens, New York
 * Nominator's rationale: C2C. Similar to other descriptions of Queens in the tree, such as Category:Sportspeople from Queens, New York and Category:People from Queens, New York. It is also more administratively correct than Queens, New York City. StonyBrook (talk) 20:36, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:13, 11 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:People from Mukacheve

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 10:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People from Mukacheve to Category:People from Mukachevo
 * Nominator's rationale: To bring it in line with the current spelling. Cacrats (talk) 20:32, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename per WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 11 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category::Category:Jains of the Middle Ages

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 10:09, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting category


 * Nominator's rationale: As per the previous nomination, this category makes little sense historically. It would only prove useful if non-European matters can be categorized under European eras for the sake of cross-cultural comparison. Nevertheless, I'd like to get a current consensus on the matter. --Invokingvajras (talk) 19:50, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Support, setting up a medieval tree would only be meaningful if there would be a number of topic articles about Jains in the Middle Ages. Since Indian historiography does not clearly distinguish a medieval period comparable to Europe, those articles are probably not going to be written. (Note that the subcategories are also in a by-century tree so nothing is lost with plain deletion.) Marcocapelle (talk) 01:48, 12 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Buddhist philosophers
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Category:DJ Magazine

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 10:10, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting dj magazine


 * Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article Rathfelder (talk) 19:11, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per C2f. 165.91.13.55 (talk) 09:45, 11 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:AAA Championships champions navigational boxes

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 09:08, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:AAA Championships champions navigational boxes to Category:AAA Championships winners navigational boxes
 * Propose renaming Category:British Athletics Championships champions navigational boxes to Category:British Athletics Championships winners navigational boxes
 * Nominator's rationale: Avoid repetition of "champion". All the member templates' title lines use "winners" rather than "champions". – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:45, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Alternatively, consider upmerging to parent categories Category:National athletics champions templates and Category:United Kingdom sports navigational boxes. The AAA category has two templates, the BAC has one. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:49, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Support rename per better phrasing. Also no opposition to an upmerge if these categories are deemed too small. SFB 18:29, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:National Lacrosse League Champion's Cup championship seasons
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Category:1st convocation of the Sukhumi City Council

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 10:08, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:1st convocation of the Sukhumi City Council to Category:Members of the Sukhumi City Council
 * Propose merging Category:2nd convocation of the Sukhumi City Council to Category:Members of the Sukhumi City Council
 * Propose merging Category:3rd convocation of the Sukhumi City Council to Category:Members of the Sukhumi City Council
 * Propose merging Category:4th convocation of the Sukhumi City Council to Category:Members of the Sukhumi City Council
 * Propose merging Category:5th convocation of the Sukhumi City Council to Category:Members of the Sukhumi City Council
 * Propose merging Category:6th convocation of the Sukhumi City Council to Category:Members of the Sukhumi City Council
 * Nominator's rationale: All six of these categories combined include just nine articles total. It's not necessary or useful to subcategorize city councillors this narrowly — with one or two exceptions, we don't even subcategorize national legislators in most countries for each individual session they served in, let alone city councillors. We simply don't need seven separate categories to contain six people and three lists: just the one parent category is entirely sufficient here, and navigation is not aided by reassigning just nine articles into six partially overlapping WP:SMALLCATs. Bearcat (talk) 15:56, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 11 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Music by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: nomination withdrawn. MER-C 18:04, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Music by country to Category:?
 * Nominator's rationale: All the subcategories are along the lines of Fooish music. But the lead article in each case is Music of Foo.  Should we change them all? Rathfelder (talk) 13:15, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


 * The "Fooish music" format also allows diaspora music. Not sure if we should change anything at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:39, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * As it is its ambiguous. Is that what we want?   But arguably Music of Ireland could include Irish music produced in Liverpool just as well. Rathfelder (talk) 19:05, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Clearly there is no appetitie for this, so I withdraw the suggestion.Rathfelder (talk) 21:11, 22 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:British Speedway Championship champions

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 10:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:British Speedway Championship champions to Category:British Speedway Championship winners
 * Nominator's rationale: The current title is repetitive. The article British Speedway Championship refers to "winners" and says the winner "becomes the British Speedway Champion." We could therefore use Category:British Speedway Champions, but this could be ambiguous as people might read it as British winners of any speedway championship. The naming format "XYZ Championship winners" keeps the full name of the championship, with its capital letters, and is used by various others within e.g. Category:Sports world champions. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:49, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:40, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


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