Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 October 5



Category:Combiners (Transformers)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 October 13%23Category:Combiners (Transformers)

Category:Santa Trackers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:22, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Santa Trackers to Category:Santa Claus
 * Nominator's rationale: only 2 articles Rathfelder (talk) 19:01, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:14, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Jewish pornographers

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:20, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting jewish pornographers


 * Nominator's rationale: The pornographers category is not otherwise subdivided by ethnicity, and combining authors, actors, directors, businessmen, and tech people together as "Jewish pornographers" together strikes me as...suspect. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 16:58, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * DO NOT Delete Why? Read the article titled Triple-exthnics - Nathan Abrams on Jews in the American porn industry published in "Jewish Quarterly" (Winter 2004 - Number 196). It states in part that "...secular Jews have played (and still continue to play) a disproportionate role throughout the adult film industry in America..." and explores reasons why this may be so. In the opinion of the ("half-")Jew writing here, the facts probably reflect the strong sex-negative currents within Christianity, as examined in a prize-winning book by a Protestant minister titled Sexual Liberation: The Scandal of Christendom (Praeger 2007). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.232.63.145 (talk) 02:39, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete not a defining characteristic, I note that Category:Pornography has no religious sub-categories nor can I find say a category for Christian pornographers. Note that I made a duplice cfd seconds after Rosecelese which I've now removed! Doug Weller  talk 17:06, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator and User:Doug Weller. Being Jewish is not a defining characteristic of pornographers. J I P  &#124; Talk 23:33, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:15, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Does not meet WP:EGRS in my opinion, as I cannot see how Jewish religion or ethnicity would have an impact on pornography. Zerach (talk) 14:28, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:G4 - Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion. This is pretty much a recreation of Category:Jewish American pornographers, which was deleted 6 months ago: Categories for discussion/Log/2019 May 8. Place Clichy (talk) 14:07, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * To be fair, this category was created before the previous discussion took place. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:47, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


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Wikipedians contributing under a Creative Commons license

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:20, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians contributing under creative commons 1.0‎, or rename to (A) Category:Wikipedians contributing under a Creative Commons 1.0 license or (B) Category:Wikipedians contributing under a CC 1.0 license
 * Propose deleting wikipedians contributing under creative commons 2.0‎, or rename to (A) Category:Wikipedians contributing under a Creative Commons 2.0 license or (B) Category:Wikipedians contributing under a CC 2.0 license
 * Propose deleting wikipedians contributing under creative commons 2.5, or rename to (A) Category:Wikipedians contributing under a Creative Commons 2.5 license or (B) Category:Wikipedians contributing under a CC 2.5 license
 * Propose deleting wikipedians contributing under creative commons 3.0‎, or rename to (A) Category:Wikipedians contributing under a Creative Commons 3.0 license or (B) Category:Wikipedians contributing under a CC 3.0 license
 * Nominator's rationale: This is a follow-up to this discussion, which resulted in the parent category being named Category:Wikipedians contributing under a Creative Commons license. The rationale for renaming is the same as before: Creative Commons (CC) is the organization, and contributions are made under a CC license. My first preference, however, is deletion because: (1) this category is "over-organized" to the point of frustrating navigation, with 7 containers being used to organize a total of 9 downstream child categorise; and (2) CC license type (e.g. CC BY, CC BY-SA, CC BY-ND) is a more meaningful way of splitting the category than CC license version number. If deleted, upmerging is not required as all contents are already otherwise categorized. (Pining 3/4 categories' creator, User:HarJIT) -- Black Falcon (talk) 16:35, 22 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Disclosure: I recently created Category:Wikipedians contributing under Creative Commons 3.0‎ to complete the set. -- Black Falcon (talk) 16:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Since I was pinged: I don't really remember my motivation from four years ago, but what I do recall is that the category tree was a mess, with CC-BY templates categorising as contributing under CC-BY-SA (I think it was). I was making some attempts to at least make it accurate (and in the meantime apparently subst'ing on my userpage—now commented out).
 * That's actually why you have the duplicitous e.g. Category:Wikipedians contributing under CC BY-SA 1.0 and Category:Wikipedians contributing under Dual License with CC-BySA-1.0: the former was previously misleadingly used by the CC-BY templates, and the latter by the actual BY-SA templates. I did try to get at least some of the CC-BY ones categorised correctly, but had to request a template editor to do so in some cases due to protection. Again: this is all from memory.
 * Presumably I thought that these three categories were sensible at the time, but I couldn't possibly comment now. --HarJIT (talk) 21:22, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Presumably I thought that these three categories were sensible at the time, but I couldn't possibly comment now. --HarJIT (talk) 21:22, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Presumably I thought that these three categories were sensible at the time, but I couldn't possibly comment now. --HarJIT (talk) 21:22, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete any categories like this that don't have an identified purpose (e.g. a process that involves looking at what pages are in the category). DexDor(talk) 17:54, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 09:11, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:55, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Tencent Music

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 * The result of the discussion was: do not merge. MER-C 17:56, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Tencent Music to Category:Tencent
 * Nominator's rationale: Part of the same company Rathfelder (talk) 14:12, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * With 5 articles so far it seems worthwhile, but if not kept then selective merge to Category:Online music stores of China. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:21, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 09:11, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * If not kept, merge per nom, and add article Tencent Music to Category:Online music stores of China per Fayenatic. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:02, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Agree with Marco and Fayenatic above. Five articles is enough for it to be useful, but a merger would be fine as well. --Trialpears (talk) 07:51, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep since containing five items and useful cat. gidonb (talk) 09:56, 21 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Online retailers of England
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 October 18%23Category:Online retailers of England

Category:Internet companies of Finland

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Companies of Finland by industry. MER-C 09:26, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Internet companies of Finland to Category:Online companies of Finland
 * Nominator's rationale: None of the articles are about "companies concerned with the process or delivery of the internet (its infrastructure)". Rathfelder (talk) 12:41, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Category:Online companies of Finland already exists. Would it be better to remove subcategory Category:Internet service providers of Finland (leaving Category:Online retailers of Finland and individual articles), then merge with Category:Online companies of Finland? TSventon (talk) 13:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed it would. But now I have messed up my own plan I'll withdraw this and do it by hand.  Rathfelder (talk) 17:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


 * I propose we now delete it. The only content is Category:Internet service providers of Finland which doesnt need this intermediate category.Rathfelder (talk) 10:15, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, Delete. TSventon (talk) 10:23, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Support alt proposal in principle though this category should actually be upmerged to Category:Internet in Finland and probably also to Category:Information technology organisations based in Finland. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:27, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 09:14, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and upmerge Category:Internet service providers of Finland to Category:Companies of Finland by industry. We don't need a category consisting of only a single subcategory. J I P  &#124; Talk 23:35, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, Category:Companies of Finland by industry is probably a better merge target than the one I suggested before. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:18, 7 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:World Food Prize laureates

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:24, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting world food prize laureates


 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCAWARD and WP:NONDEF, this is not an exceptionally famous prize that really defines the recipients like e.g. the Nobel prize does. There is no need to listify, the article World Food Prize already contains a list of laureates. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:06, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep (as creator): I agree that the prize is not well-known in general, but it does seem to be very important in this field. Scanning through several of the laureates, the prize is mentioned in the first paragraph of most, sometimes in the first sentence, suggesting that it is in fact a defining characteristic. Rigadoun (talk) 17:39, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment I don’t know enough about the topic to vote one way or another, but I’d imagine that Rigadoun, as the creator of the category, would hold an inherent bias/conflict of interest in voting, no? KirkCliff2 (talk) 16:02, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Addendum: I fully assume you acted in good faith, Rigadoun, but preferential bias in such cases is human nature, thus preventing you from voting objectively. KirkCliff2 (talk) 16:22, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course, that's why I noted that I was the creator. It's been a while since I've been active here, but I thought it was common to comment on such proposals. Or is it just that I shouldn't mark it as keep, but rather a comment? Rigadoun (talk) 02:51, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as non-defining (e.g. for Bob Dole) and for all the usual reasons that lists are better for things like this (e.g. coping better when the prize is awarded jointly to 2 people) - and as there's a list there doesn't need to be a category as well (note: CLN does not say that if you have one you need to have the others). DexDor(talk) 17:47, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

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Category:Internet companies of Mexico

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Companies of Mexico by industry. MER-C 09:27, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting internet companies of mexico


 * Nominator's rationale: Only content is Internet service providers of Mexico‎ Rathfelder (talk) 22:23, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Support in principle, same comment as in yesterday's discussion, but merge to Category:Information technology companies of Mexico. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:43, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 09:14, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and upmerge Category:Internet service providers of Mexico to Category:Companies of Mexico by industry. We don't need a category consisting of only a single subcategory. J I P  &#124; Talk 23:37, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, Category:Companies of Mexico by industry is probably a better merge target than the one I suggested before. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:24, 7 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Laotian cuisine

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 09:24, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Laotian cuisine to Category:Lao cuisine
 * Nominator's rationale: Consistency with main article, which has remained stable at Lao cuisine since 2011. (Lao and Laotian are both adjectives for Laos, though sometimes a distinction is made where Laotian refers more to the modern country and nationality, while Lao is used more for historical/cultural stuff.) The category was originally at Category:Lao cuisine, but was manually moved by Armbrust in 2013. Paul_012 (talk) 07:52, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per WP:C2D. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:42, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


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