Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 October 8



Category:Daughters (band) EPs
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Autobots and Decepticons
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Category:Airline accidents and incidents designated as Flight 191

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete WP:G7. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:29, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting airline accidents and incidents designated as flight 191


 * Nominator's rationale: Random collection of unrelated accidents that just happen to a similar Flight Number, zero use as a navigation aid. The possible creation of a series of categories from 1 to 9999 could be generated but with little encyclopedic value. Flight 191 exists as a disambiguation page it does not need a category. MilborneOne (talk) 17:31, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NONDEF and WP:TRIVIALCAT; the flight number is purely coincidental and non-defining. The creation of this category contributes nothing to the understanding of the topic of air disasters and threatens to spawn dozens of similarly useless copycat categories. Carguychris (talk) 18:03, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:57, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Being numbered 191 is not a defining characteristic of flights. In fact, this seems completely arbitrary. What's so special about 191? J I P  &#124; Talk 22:33, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: Strictly WP:TRIVIALCAT. - Ahunt (talk) 00:26, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SHAREDNAME. This is textbook numerology, a type of pseudoscience. Listing these coincidental events in a dab page is good enough. Place Clichy (talk) 10:00, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete Honest mistake of mine. WP:SHAREDNAME is correct. I am sorry for the creation, it was an honest mistake. I know better now the uses of categories. Could qualify for G7 now. AmericanAir88(talk) 23:42, 9 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Princes of Asturias

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. MER-C 10:01, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting princes of asturias


 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:NONDEF, these are merely subsidiary titles of the crown princes of Castile and Spain respectively. This nomination about Castile is very comparable with this earlier one about Aragon. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:09, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - Prince of Asturias is the title of the heir to the throne of Spain. This is a most defining element, as these princes would actually be called primarily by this time for a great part of their life, and remain known as such for those who did not acceed, such as John, Prince of Asturias or María de las Mercedes, Princess of Asturias. This category is very similar to or . Place Clichy (talk) 10:00, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as above. Significant title denoting the heir to the Spanish throne. The Prince of Asturias is the crown prince of Spain. It's not a "subsidiary title". Of course it's defining. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:01, 9 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Naskapi communities in Quebec
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Category:Wreckers (Transformers)
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Category:Primitives (Transformers)

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 18:29, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting primitives (transformers)


 * Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization of a minor fictional aspect. The characters are present elsewhere in the category structure so no need to merge. TTN (talk) 15:04, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete, this one has no specific parent categories to merge to. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:36, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, this one I can actually agree to. A trivial characteristic used in only one episode in the entire series. J I P  &#124; Talk 22:17, 11 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Emperors of Destruction
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Template:Nbl-stub
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Ethnic groups of partial ancestry

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 18:30, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ethnic groups of partial african ancestry


 * Propose deleting ethnic groups of partial asian ancestry


 * Propose deleting ethnic groups of partial european ancestry


 * Nominator's rationale: After scratching my head, I supposed that the intention behind these categories is to single out ethnic groups percevied as mixed, e.g. Mulatto. However they bring a lot of issues:
 * "African/European/Asian ancestry" seems to be used as a clear proxy for black/white/yellow "race", which is not an acceptable basis for categorization. Anyway, the lines between these 3 categories seem to be quite arbitrary.
 * I do not consider at first glance that the fact for an ethnic group to be mixed (or of partial African/Asian/European ancestry) is a WP:DEFINING feature. Indeed, almost all ethnic groups can be considered to be somehow mixed, or at least the product of some other group(s) at the time they are formed. Arguing that mixed groups are an exception enough to be a defining feature is making assumptions on racial purity for the groups that would not be defined as such, assumptions which are extremely hazardous.
 * These categories seem to be filled along very unclear criteria. Example of challengeable category content (some of which could only be considered "ethnic groups" with a stretch): Portuguese people in Pakistan (partial Asian descent?), the entire Category:Dominican Republic people, Category:Sami (partial Asian descent?), Native American tribes in Virginia (partial African descent?), Moghol people (partial Asian ancestry?) etc. Hardly defining in any case.
 * Therefore, I consider that this content should better be treated at the level of the ethnic group itself rather than by this partial ancestry feature. While merging could be an option (but to which target?), all articles and categories I checked were already categorized somewhere under Category:Ethnic groups. Mere deletion is therefore appropriate and will not leave orphans. Place Clichy (talk) 13:37, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete—non defining. Zerach (talk) 04:46, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, presumably the aim of these categories was to collect half-castes, but that is an outdated type of classification. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:27, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Image hosting

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 10:05, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Image hosting to Category:Image sharing websites
 * Nominator's rationale: Clearer definition. To be taken with yesterdays proposal to merge Category:Photo sharing into this. Rathfelder (talk) 09:44, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. The two nominations should be closed in conjunction. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:30, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


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OKC Energy U23 players/Oklahoma City Energy U23 players
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