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Category:Leaders of universities in Nigeria

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (in practice, same as delete). – Fayenatic  L ondon 18:24, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Leaders of universities in Nigeria to Category:Vice-Chancellors of Nigerian universities‎
 * Nominator's rationale: All the heads of universities in Nigeria seem to be called Vice-Chancellors. Rathfelder (talk) 21:05, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge - one wonders what the creator of this category had in mind at the time. Oculi (talk) 22:10, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge - User:Oculi the creator of the category may have intended to create categories for Chancellors of Nigerian universities, but as they did not the category serves no purpose‎. TSventon (talk) 13:15, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as Category:Vice-Chancellors of Nigerian universities‎ is already in Category:University and college vice-chancellors by country. TSventon (talk) 13:53, 9 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:University and college vice-chancellors

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:34, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:University and college vice-chancellors to Category:Heads of universities and colleges
 * Nominator's rationale: Vice-chancellor is only one of a variety of names for heads of universities. Rathfelder (talk) 21:03, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Support, there is no point in creating separate trees for heads of universities just based on title. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, again subcategories will need to be tackled next. TSventon (talk) 14:12, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support -- The category needs a headnote, explaining that it covers the academic and administrative heads of universities and colleges, whatever their title. I note that "Chancellors" is also up for deletion.  In some places the Chancellor will fall into that category; in others (e.g. Oxford and Cambridge, but probably most British universities) the Chancellor is the titular head.  This is partly honorific but not wholly so.  We should retain a category, but repurpose it.  Peterkingiron (talk) 11:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support we do not categorize by shared name, and so we do not make categorizes that only reflect naming convention and not something deeper.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:09, 14 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:University and college vice-chancellors by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:34, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:University and college vice-chancellors by country to Category:Heads of universities and colleges by country
 * Nominator's rationale: Vice-chancellor is only one of a variety of titles for heads of universities. Nothing is gained by subcategorising them by title. Rathfelder (talk) 21:01, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Support, there is no point in creating separate trees for heads of universities just based on title. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, per nomination. TSventon (talk) 14:10, 9 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:University and college presidents

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:35, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:University and college presidents to Category:Heads of universities and colleges
 * Nominator's rationale: Most of the sub-categories are not presidents. Many are rectors, chancellors etc.  The title of president does not have a consistent meaning across different countries. Rathfelder (talk) 20:36, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Support, there is no point in creating separate trees for heads of universities just based on title and besides this category contains a mix of titles anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment User:Rathfelder, I agree that this category is pointless, but I think it needs to be deleted once its subcategories have been discussed. For example Category:African university and college presidents could be deleted because its four subcategories are already subcategories of Category:Heads of universities and colleges by country. TSventon (talk) 13:42, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I entirely agree. Sorting out the mess will take a little while.  Now we have agreed the top level I have put in a lot of speedy renaming for individual country categories.  The underlying problem is that individual editors understandably assume that the nomenclature they are used to applies everywhere, so we need to make sure that the category titles dont mislead people.Rathfelder (talk) 13:47, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, thanks for the clarification User:Rathfelder. The subcategories will need to be tackled next. TSventon (talk) 14:09, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support  - Rathfelder should wait for this to close before nominating speedies based on it. Oculi (talk) 08:29, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Oculi, I think User:Rathfelder is basing speedies on Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_June_28. TSventon (talk) 11:19, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Another issue is whether all these categories should say "and colleges". There are very few articles about the modern head of any college. Institutions which used to be called colleges (or indeed schools, institutes and the like) are now generally called universities, so I propose that we dont say "and colleges" for any sub-category unless there are articles about people who are heads of something not called a university.  I think heads of departments, faculties etc in universities should be in the academic administrator categories. Rathfelder (talk) 08:51, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Rathfelder, I agree with that approach. In the UK there is a substantial number of articles for heads of art colleges and theological colleges which do not fit into the university chancellor/ vice chancellor categories. "and colleges"s could be added to other countries categories at a later date as appropriate. TSventon (talk) 10:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support rename to neartral "heads". However to say we should drop "and colleges" is to ignore the reality in the US. We have lots and lots of places that are still colleges, including some like Boston College and the College of William and Mary that are clearly universities by most definitions. True the number of colleges has declined in the last 25 years, as many have added university to their name or become branches of a university (Utah has seen this a lot, but so have other states), and if you go back to the 1930s most states had at most 3 univerities, but the change is not anywhere near complete.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:13, 14 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Negro league baseball venues remnants remain

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:36, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Negro league baseball venues remnants remain to Category:Negro league baseball venues
 * Nominator's rationale: The title is ungrammatical and not part of any "remnants remain" category tree. We also normally only categorize by permanent characteristics. The also fails the "Did the category creator understand what they were creating?" test as it was created with no parent categories. DexDor(talk) 17:58, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:40, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support we do not split venue categorize based on weather they still exist. Let us not also go down the issue of how to define "remants remain".John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:14, 14 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:United States Senators and all its progeny
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Category:University of Maryland University College

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 09:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:University of Maryland University College to Category:University of Maryland Global Campus
 * Propose renaming Category:University of Maryland University College alumni to Category:University of Maryland Global Campus alumni
 * Propose renaming Category:University of Maryland University College faculty to Category:University of Maryland Global Campus faculty
 * Nominator's rationale: Consistency with main article name University of Maryland Global Campus following article move to UMUC's new official name. The move was proposed as speedy but opposed as main article was moved only recently and without a page move discussion. TSventon (talk) 14:01, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Question, while this Global Campus has become part of the official name, is it also part of the common name? Marcocapelle (talk) 03:39, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Marcocapelle, I have no connection to UMUC/UMGC and moved the main article following a request from the university on helpdesk. I would generally expect a university's official name to be its common name and the new name is probably less confusing than the old one. The reference provided said "The massive effort to transition to the new name has already begun and will continue into 2020", so perhaps the change could have waited a bit. TSventon (talk) 12:07, 12 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Support As of 7/1/19 the university name was officially changed. University of Maryland Global Campus is the official and common name. David (talk) 14:49, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support in the case of instutitions we almost always use their official name, unless some variation of the official name is used reguarly in reliable sources. We also almost always respond immediately to institutional renames. This is especially true when it is a rename of an institution so there is no common use to invoke.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:23, 14 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Austrian Empire military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars
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Category:Government of the Dutch Caribbean

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 09:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Government of the Dutch Caribbean to Category:Government in the Dutch Caribbean
 * Nominator's rationale There is no legal entity known as the Dutch Caribbean. Instead there are two types of legal entity in the Caribbean that are part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands: countries and special municipal territories. Each has its own kind of government. There is no overarching government for the collective territories, unless that be the government in the Netherlands proper. So it's more correct to speak of "government in" rather than "government of". Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:55, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. We probably need a headnote to explain this. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:16, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support -- A headnote is certainly needed. Peterkingiron (talk) 12:55, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Trolley parks

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to appropriate categories for amusement parks, then delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:41, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Trolley parks to Category:Trolley parks in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: All the parks are in the USA Rathfelder (talk) 09:51, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment, it is not a very defining characteristic. Most of them are simply called amusement parcs. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:21, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to Category:Amusement parks in the United States or delete if (as they should be) the articles are all in a by-state category already. This categorization is unnecessary and many of the articles don't use the term "trolley park". DexDor(talk) 17:52, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Perfectly happy with that. Though there is an article about Trolley park. Rathfelder (talk) 18:41, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Upmerge A big problem with this category is that it is categorizing things that often have existed for long times based on a system that only really applied for a short time.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:48, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: other than Trolley park, there are currently 15 specific articles that are not categorised in amusement parks in the US by state: see PetScan . – Fayenatic  L ondon 18:32, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Chutes Park (for example) is in Category:Defunct amusement parks in California so I think there's a problem with that query. Try this. DexDor(talk) 18:40, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've checked all the categorisation now. I've also listed the few category members that were missing in the main article Trolley park. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:37, 18 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:JVP insurrections in film

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 13:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:JVP insurrections in film to Category:Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna and Category:Films set in Sri Lanka (1948–present)
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT; besides the films aren't really about the insurrections. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:29, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * Support. The two films are also now categorised appropriately as films about revolutionaries/rebellions. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:53, 14 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Marl Kingdom series
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Category:FreeSpace (series)
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Category:Battlefield (series) games
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Category:MediaWiki sites

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:29, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:MediaWiki sites to Category:MediaWiki websites
 * Nominator's rationale: Substantially the same scope. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 20:09, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * Oppose. Category:MediaWiki_websites is currently a subcategory of Category:MediaWiki sites. Some of MediaWiki sites (those classified Confidential or above) are probably not available at all (i.e., not even after giving a password) on the World Wide Web. Apokrif (talk) 00:35, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Support: The words "site" and "website" here are synonyms. Apart from that, right now, Category:MediaWiki sites only has one page in it: GC-Wiki. I cannot see how this page cannot be assigned to Category:MediaWiki websites. In fact, would it be against the etiquette for me to re-categorize it there? flowing dreams (talk page) 06:19, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * "The words "site" and "website" here are synonyms": no, "website" only refers to sites which are on the web (i.e., it cannot be used for sites like GC-Wiki which are not on the web).
 * "only has one page in it": didn't you see category:MediaWiki sites of the United States government‎? Apokrif (talk) 23:08, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Even if I accept your hair-narrow definition, I still wouldn't go as far as harassing our viewership with convoluted categorization heirarchy. That said, your definition is wrong. A website is a connected group of web pages, served by a web server. It could be an Internet website or an Intranet website. "Site" is always a short form for "website". flowing dreams (talk page) 06:36, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Support, sites and websites appear to be synonymous. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:28, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:SGI supercomputers
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 * The result of the discussion was: do not rename. MER-C 13:58, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:SGI supercomputers to Category:SGI/HPE supercomputers
 * Nominator's rationale: As HPE purchased SGI, and HPE is still providing solutions under the SGI brand, I propose to rename the article as I suggested. Amitie 10g (talk) 21:10, 27 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Weak oppose at least until these supercomputers are rebranded. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:38, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hardware provided by SGI will not be rebranded, and HPE adopted the "SGI" brand for their superconouters hardware line after the SGI purchase (see below).


 * The Electra hardware consist in the SGI ICE X (manufactured by Silicon Graphics International) and the HPE SGI 8600 (manufactured by HPE, after the SGI purchasing). Those hardware has been manufactured by there "different" companies, but, in terms of partnership, contracts and succession, those companies should be considered as the "same", as the newer company adopted the historical brand "SGI". --Amitie 10g (talk) 23:24, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Then why not leave the category as is? Marcocapelle (talk) 14:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep; categories usually follow the current branding, rather than using both old and new in the category name. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:06, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Independent Power Producers of Pakistan
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. MER-C 09:43, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Independent Power Producers of Pakistan to Category:Electric power companies of Pakistan
 * Nominator's rationale: This category has all the power companies in Pakistan. Descon doesnt seem to be generating company.   They dont appear to be much more independent than those in other countries. There is an article Independent Power Producer but I dont think it makes a good foundation for categories.  Monopolisatioin in this field varies by time and place.  Its not terribly useful to try to separate companies which are monopolies from those which aren't. Rathfelder (talk) 07:24, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting independent power producers


 * Nominator's rationale: Title is very ambiguous. Only one subcategory Rathfelder (talk) 07:20, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:25, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete/merge both -- Companies often claim to be "independent", but it is far from clear what the criterion for this is: perhaps the corollary of being part of a conglomerate or of being government controlled. Peterkingiron (talk) 12:58, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:2007 in web series
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting 2007 in web series


 * Nominator's rationale: Single-entry WP:SMALLCAT which is being used solely to contain a single web series episode. We have no equivalent "Year in web series" categories for any other year in the entire history of human existence, and very little content to populate such a scheme with since very few web series ever actually warrant standalone articles about individual episodes — so there's no reason why this should stand alone as a special case. Bearcat (talk) 05:36, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete There seems to be no category for episodes of web series, possibly because this is the only article about one, but this is not an acceptable use of "YYYY in X" categories. In particular, it is inconsistent with usage of Category:2007 in television, which has a separate subcategory for episodes. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 06:25, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional characters by subject
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:43, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional characters by subject to Category:Fictional characters
 * Nominator's rationale: This category appears to have been created to diffuse the parent, but it contains an assortment of unrelated categories (e.g. lists, stubs) which would be better off in the parent. – Fayenatic  L ondon 03:08, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Support The difference from the parents seem obvious at first, but the contents are as dissimilar as those of the parent category. There seem to be at least four clusters of similar subcategories, with no relation in between except that they are not "by ______". There is no special reason to diffuse the parent this finely. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 06:17, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, the content of this subcategory cannot coherently be described as "by subject". Marcocapelle (talk) 11:31, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support. This category includes subcategories like "Mascots", "Lists of fictional characters", "Songs about fictional characters" and "Fictional characters based on real people", none of which can be accurately characterized as "Fictional characters by subject". The subject of a thing is the thing that first thing is about, and that's not an accurate assessment of what any of these categories are signifying — none of them have the word "by" in them, and the only one that has the word "about" in it has the fictional characters as the aboutee rather than the abouter. Bearcat (talk) 13:47, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Australian Living Treasures
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting australian living treasures


 * Nominator's rationale: Category for people on the basis of their having been named as icons in a listicle compiled by a subjective public opinion poll. This is not a defining characteristic for the purposes of justifying a category — we've regularly deleted things like this when they were tried for other similar poll-based lists like The Greatest Canadian, music magazine rankings of songs or albums, and on and so forth. If this kind of thing isn't already covered by an WP:OCAT proscription, it probably should be. Bearcat (talk) 02:54, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete or rename to Category:Australian living treasures. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:11, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:33, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete (listify if necessary). Clearly an AWARD category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 12:59, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * FWIW, they're already listed in National Living Treasure (Australia). Bearcat (talk) 18:10, 14 September 2019 (UTC)


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Category:Bytown
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:44, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bytown to Category:History of Ottawa
 * Nominator's rationale: Eponymous WP:SMALLCAT for the historical former name of a city that still exists. This is populated entirely by content that doesn't really need the demarcation: three of the five articles here are already filed in the target category alongside this because their scope crosses the city's renaming, and there's no reason why the other two couldn't be: those two are the eponym itself and the other thing that had the word "Bytown" in its name, which means they've been isolated from the overall history of Ottawa on purely WP:SHAREDNAME grounds. There's just not enough content that's defined by any meaningful Bytown-Ottawa distinction for two separate categories to be needed here — and in addition, this also has a tendency to accidentally collect some of the contemporary things that still to this day use "Bytown" as a nickname for Ottawa (ByTowne Cinema, Bytown Boys Supporters Club, etc.), which isn't its purpose and would still violate SHAREDNAME anyway. Bearcat (talk) 02:12, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:35, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


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