Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 April 1



Category:Ankara Vilayet

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Ankara Vilayet to Category:Angora Vilayet
 * Propose renaming Category:People from Ankara Vilayet to Category:People from Angora Vilayet
 * Nominator's rationale: Other ENwiki articles about Ottoman Empire vilayets use pre-1923 names, like "Constantinople Vilayet" and "Adrianople Vilayet", so this should use "Angora" instead of Ankara. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 16:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename per C2d, main article is already at Angora Vilayet. Also Category:People from Ankara Vilayet. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 16:52, 5 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:White American working class

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 * The result of the discussion was: manual merge to and Category:Working class in the United States or other appropriate targets. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting white american working class


 * Nominator's rationale: Most of the articles in this category have little to nothing to do with the working class. They are neighborhoods in US cities, accents, books etc. There is no White American working class article and even white working class is a redirect to a larger article about the working class in the United States. TM 17:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to parent category Category:Working class in the United States. No need to divide by ethnic or racial groups. Dimadick (talk) 16:01, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Mild support for deletion. Although lower-class white culture most probably exists in several forms in the US (and Poor White may be the topic article you are looking for, at least for one such subculture), the current collection of articles seem to follow a very strange motivation, not unlike a WP:COATRACK. Editor(s) of this category seem to put great effort in looking for anything "white", even not self-defined as such, and gathering otherwise unrelated content. E.g. articles about specific places or neighbourhoods are being categorized as "white working class" and placed next to elements typical of Southern culture and white supremacist organisations. The focus on Baltimore is also strange. I guess that these different topics are already covered by several pre-existing categories, such as Category:Culture of the Southern United States, Category:Stereotypes of white Americans, Category:White supremacy or Category:Working class in the United States. The link between them is vague at best. Upmerging anywhere would not be an option, as a severe purge would be needed. Place Clichy (talk) 16:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Split between Category:White American culture and Category:Working class in the United States, the category has become a hodgepodge of articles about two different topics. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:22, 3 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:LGBT City Council members by city

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Merging Category:LGBT members of the Chicago City Council to Category:Chicago City Council members
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAT. This is a triple intersection of municipality, sexuality, and political office. Also per a recent discussion that deleted the San Francisco categry. Dual upmerge to appropriate sub-categories including, and.
 * Also nominated:, , , , , .--TM 13:53, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Support all. An intersection too far. Oculi (talk) 19:13, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support  triples are almost always a bad idea. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Recursion

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 * The result of the discussion was: no action required (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Recursion to Category:Recursion
 * Nominator's rationale: Because to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:44, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per support per support...per nom. --Soumyabrata stay at school wash your shirt to be killed by coronavirus 05:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge - leaving a soft redirect. Oculi (talk) 11:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Suggestion - I'd like a glass of WINE while we're discussing. Her Pegship (I'm listening) 18:58, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Centre for Environment, Fisheries and Aquaculture Science

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename for now without prejudice to later recreation (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:01, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Renaming Category:Centre for Environment, Fisheries and Aquaculture Science to Category:Ships of the Centre for Environment, Fisheries and Aquaculture Science
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:CAT in general
 * The Centre for Environment, Fisheries and Aquaculture Science is part of the UK government and I have no conceptual objection to a government agency category. In practice though all 14 articles here are ships, similar to Category:Ships of the United States Bureau of Fisheries. This is really just a truth in advertising nomination so the name of the category reflects the actual contents. (If passed, I'm happy to update the parent categories.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:20, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename - specific names are much better. This is a set category of ships (apart from one article). No objection to eponymous topic category Category:Centre for Environment, Fisheries and Aquaculture Science for Centre for Environment, Fisheries and Aquaculture Science if content can be found eg a people subcat. Oculi (talk) 11:13, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment The main article indicates that CEFAS has 4 UK laboratories (which are covered in the main article); one current and various past research ships; 2 laboratories in the Arabian Penninsula. There is scope for populating it with more content; also one for CEFAS people: there is a list called alumni in the main article, though it may be past staff rather than alumni.  CEFAS is an executive agency under DEFRA (a UK ministry).  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:43, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm certainly not opposed to recreating the parent category if/when enough content exists to populate it. (Alternatively, I could create a ship subcategory now but it would drain the current category of everything but the main article.) RevelationDirect (talk) 22:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Post Close Note The renamed category has been reparented into ship categories. RevelationDirect (talk) 19:40, 10 April 2020 (UTC)


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