Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 April 19



Category:Pornographic film actors from Maine

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  03:56, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Pornographic film actors from Maine to Category:Actors from Maine
 * Nominator's rationale: Small category that is unlikely to grow. No need to merge as the article is already in an appropriate subcategory. Note that while does have 46 subcategories including this one, 20 have fewer than 5 articles. User:Namiba 21:13, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Preferably nominate the whole tree, for categorization by location it is hardly relevant what particular kind of actor they are. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * That would be an interesting discussion. Pornographic film actor is an article in its own right and I think it would probably be kept but feel free to do so. In the meantime, I think we should discuss this particular category.--User:Namiba 11:37, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Comment Unlikely to grow? Don't they have fluffers for this situation? Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Place Clichy (talk) 19:56, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Support Unless a large majority of the other state categories have over 5 articles so we're just completing a set, I don't accept this as part of a "large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme" and it needs to aid navigation on it's own. It doesn't. No objection to a broader nom but this is the one before us here. RevelationDirect (talk) 17:18, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Mild support, but would prefer a nomination for the whole tree. It is likely that actors practice their act in several states, and state of birth is probably irrelevant (unless their is a Mainer fetish, you never know). Place Clichy (talk) 19:56, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:American pornographic film actors of Vietnamese descent

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  04:00, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:American pornographic film actors of Vietnamese descent to Category:American people of Vietnamese descent
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge to . Fails WP:OCEGRS. User:Namiba 21:07, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per my comments on the Singapore category above. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:26, 20 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:American pornographic film actors of Thai descent

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  04:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:American pornographic film actors of Thai descent to Category:American actors of Thai descent Category:American people of Thai descent
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge to . Fails WP:OCEGRS. User:Namiba 21:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per my comments on the Singapore category above. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:26, 20 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Spies in Elizabethan Ireland

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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  18:09, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting spies in elizabethan ireland


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, very narrow category and it does not really fit its only member, who - as the article poetically says - "moved through the world of international intrigue" rather than that he was based in Ireland. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:11, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Upmerge The question is how many other spies were there during the war in the 1590s; not many I suspect. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:54, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair enough to merge to all parents. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:30, 20 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete or upmerge to all parents. Place Clichy (talk) 19:56, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Upmerge What to do with all the spies in non-Elizabethan Ireland during the 16th century? Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:43, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Upmerge Per nom. RevelationDirect (talk) 23:57, 23 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Saved by the Bell (season 2) episodes

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 01:39, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting saved by the bell (season 2) episodes


 * Nominator's rationale: Only contains a User subpage. TheTVExpert (talk) 15:36, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as effectively empty. RevelationDirect (talk) 17:19, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment It is now completely empty. TheTVExpert (talk) 19:22, 22 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Musicians by geography

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 01:40, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Musicians by geography to Category:Musicians
 * Nominator's rationale: Same as Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_February_22. This was created by, who was then banned for disruptive edits to categories; its parent category has now been deleted. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:45, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Support, not a meaningful way of categorization. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:28, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - ridiculous. Oculi (talk) 20:42, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support The subcategories are not geographical. Rathfelder (talk) 21:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support. Place Clichy (talk) 19:56, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


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Greek Catholics

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus.  bibliomaniac  1  5  04:02, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Russian Greek-Catholics to Category:Russian Eastern Catholics
 * Propose merging Category:Romanian Greek-Catholics to Category:Romanian Eastern Catholics
 * Propose renaming Category:Romanian Greek-Catholic clergy to Category:Romanian Eastern Catholic clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Romanian Greek-Catholic bishops to Category:Romanian Eastern Catholic bishops
 * Nominator's rationale: merge/rename, in Russia and Romania there is no distinction between Greek Catholics (in the above sense) and Eastern Catholics but at en.wp we happen to use Eastern Catholic Churches and Category:Eastern Catholics. "Greek Catholics" is confusing since it may just as well mean Catholics of Greek nationality, see for example Category:Greek Catholics. Note: earlier these categories were nominated at CFDS by User:Elizium23 simply in order to get the dash replaced by a space in the category names. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:36, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Support This is preferable to the dash solution at speedy. It also avoids the question "Are they Greek or are they Romanian or both?". Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose. Greek Catholics are a very distinct faith among the larger Eastern Catholic Churches (see this article for details). They are distinct in that they practice the Greek Rite (also called Byzantine Rite or Constantinopolitan Rite), which is the same as the Eastern Orthodox Churches, with whom they often share historical links. What they have in common with other Eastern Catholics, such as Maronites or Armenian Catholics, is that they all share full communion and recognize the overall authority of the Pope. The name indeed has nothing to do with the country of Greece. Replacing this term by Eastern Catholic amounts to a loss of information. It would be similar to replacing all occurrences of 'Baptists', 'Methodists' and 'Pentecostal' by just 'Protestant' because you cannot tell the difference between them. Place Clichy (talk) 19:56, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Eastern Catholics is an accepted descriptor when referring to Romanian people and not referring to the proper name of the church, e.g. here. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:50, 23 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose: category is only about a portion of the Eastern-Catholic, the ones of Byzantine (Greek) heritage. For examples Armenian Catholics (present in Russia) are Eastern Catholics but not Greek Catholic.A ntv (talk) 20:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Nobody denies that they are Byzantine-rite Eastern Catholics. But it is not a class of people of their own, the Catholic Church distinguishes 23 Eastern Catholic Churches independently next to each other, regardless of rite. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:37, 24 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Primates of the Romanian Church United with Rome, Greek-Catholic

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Primates of the Romanian Greek Catholic Church.  bibliomaniac  1  5  03:54, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Primates of the Romanian Church United with Rome, Greek-Catholic to Category:Bishops of Făgăraș and Alba Iulia
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, WP:C2D per article name List of bishops of Făgăraș and Alba Iulia. An alternative name could be Category:Primates of the Romanian Greek Catholic Church per article name Romanian Greek Catholic Church. Note: earlier this category was nominated at CFDS by User:Elizium23 simply in order to get the dash replaced by a space in the category name. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:35, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Technically the name of the category should be: Category:Bishops, Archbishops and Metropolitans, Mayor Archbishop of Făgăraș and Alba Iulia (and also the article List of bishops of Făgăraș and Alba Iulia should be named in the same way). That because during the centuries the bishops of this town obtained to change their title more times because they were the heads of the Greek-Catholic Romanian Church. The title Category:Primates of the Romanian Greek Catholic Church is surely better, less technical but more readable for the users, and with more information. Note also that this Categoly belong to Category Category:Eastern Catholic primates, which lists all the heads of the Eastern Catholic Churches. For this reason it is better to leave the name Primates (or at least Leaders) into the name of this Category. A ntv (talk) 14:59, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename to Category:Primates of the Romanian Greek Catholic Church, as a simple and clear name. The suggested target should probably be created as a cat-redirect to it.  The verbosity of the full title can satisfactorily be set out in a head note.  My preference is to keep category names short, if possible.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:34, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * ALT 1 or ALT 2 rename to PeterK's suggestion above or to Category:Primates of the Romanian Eastern Catholic Church per proposal in the Catholics proposal above this one. Let the nuances be spelled out in the head note. Confession I've been renaming articles and doing some grammar tidy up on the Romanian Greek Catholic articles. They seem to have a liking for ponderous titles in Romanian that don't read well in English. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:28, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Category:Primates of the Romanian Eastern Catholic Church A ntv (talk) 17:08, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not opposing this alternative per se but I do wonder if not first the article Romanian Greek Catholic Church needs to be renamed. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes. Perhaps I was a bit hasty with my recent edits on the articles. Best to get consensus on whether we like "Greek Catholic" or "Greek-Catholic" or "Byzantine". Procedural close on this one meantime? Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:01, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * We can still proceed with ALT1 (Category:Primates of the Romanian Greek Catholic Church) as a kind of WP:C2D and have the category speedily renamed again if and when the article is renamed. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


 * I would strongly discourage the use of 'Eastern Catholic' as a replacement for 'Greek Catholic'. These are just not the same thing, just like 'Baptist' and 'Protestant'. All Greek Catholics are Eastern Catholics, but not all Eastern Catholics are Greek Catholics: the Maronites, Chaldeans, Armenian Catholics, Coptic Catholics etc. are not. Place Clichy (talk) 19:56, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Primates of the Romanian Greek Catholic Church per Peterkingiron. Place Clichy (talk) 19:56, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Deaths from the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 April 27%23Category:Deaths from the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Local elections in Japan
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Category:Films based on real people

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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:28, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting films based on real people


 * Nominator's rationale: Category:Biographical films is a better fit for nearly all of the entries and subcategories. The few exceptions belong in Category:Films based on actual events, e.g. Theeran Adhigaaram Ondru, Vachathi, Category:Films about the Forty-seven Ronin. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:17, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose Biographical films are about a single person and films based on actual events don't need to feature real people.★Trekker (talk) 08:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Most of the films and categories in this category are about a single person. However, there are some entries that are only loosely based on real people, e.g. Casque d'Or, Dying to Survive, maybe Karthavyam, Pad Man, Panchagni, so perhaps all it really needs is a thorough cleanup and explicit inclusion criteria. I'm going to start transferring entries to the other categories, then we'll see what's left. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:39, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Withdraw nomination. There are enough entries to justify the category (though there will be a lot fewer when I get finished). Clarityfiend (talk) 08:48, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


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Eurovision Song Contest entrants of country

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to the "Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants for COUNTRY" format.  bibliomaniac  1  5  04:04, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Albanian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Albania
 * Propose renaming Category:Andorran Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Andorra
 * Propose renaming Category:Armenian Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Armenia
 * Propose renaming Category:Australian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Australia
 * Propose renaming Category:Austrian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Austria
 * Propose renaming Category:Azerbaijani Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Azerbaijan
 * Propose renaming Category:Belarusian Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Belarus
 * Propose renaming Category:Belgian Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Belgium
 * Propose renaming Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Bosnia and Herzegovina
 * Propose renaming Category:British Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of the United Kingdom
 * Propose renaming Category:Bulgarian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Bulgaria
 * Propose renaming Category:Croatian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Croatia
 * Propose renaming Category:Cypriot Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Cyprus
 * Propose renaming Category:Czech Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of the Czech Republic
 * Propose renaming Category:Danish Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Denmark
 * Propose renaming Category:Dutch Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of the Netherlands
 * Propose renaming Category:Estonian Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Estonia
 * Propose renaming Category:Finnish Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Finland
 * Propose renaming Category:French Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of France
 * Propose renaming Category:German Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Germany
 * Propose renaming Category:Greek Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Greece
 * Propose renaming Category:Hungarian Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Hungary
 * Propose renaming Category:Icelandic Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Iceland
 * Propose renaming Category:Irish Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Ireland
 * Propose renaming Category:Israeli Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Israel
 * Propose renaming Category:Italian Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Italy
 * Propose renaming Category:Latvian Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Latvia
 * Propose renaming Category:Lithuanian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Lithuania
 * Propose renaming Category:Luxembourgian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Luxembourg
 * Propose renaming Category:Macedonian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of North Macedonia
 * Propose renaming Category:Maltese Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Malta
 * Propose renaming Category:Moldovan Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Moldova
 * Propose renaming Category:Monegasque Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Monaco
 * Propose renaming Category:Montenegrin Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Montenegro
 * Propose renaming Category:Norwegian Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Norway
 * Propose renaming Category:Polish Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Poland
 * Propose renaming Category:Portuguese Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Portugal
 * Propose renaming Category:Romanian Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Romania
 * Propose renaming Category:Russian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Russia
 * Propose renaming Category:Sammarinese Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of San Marino
 * Propose renaming Category:Serbia and Montenegro Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Serbia and Montenegro
 * Propose renaming Category:Serbian Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Serbia
 * Propose renaming Category:Slovak Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Slovakia
 * Propose renaming Category:Slovenian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Slovenia
 * Propose renaming Category:Spanish Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Spain
 * Propose renaming Category:Swedish Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Sweden
 * Propose renaming Category:Swiss Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Switzerland
 * Propose renaming Category:Turkish Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Turkey
 * Propose renaming Category:Ukrainian Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Ukraine
 * Propose renaming Category:Yugoslavian Eurovision Song Contest entrants‎ to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Yugoslavia
 * Nominator's rationale: Stemming from previous conversations about the issues with this existing naming convention, I am seeking to rename these so that the entrants aren't assigned a nationality. Each country in the contest can choose whoever they want to represent them. The point of these categories is simply to group entrants who have represented a specific country, not to group people of a specific national background. The category name is thus misleading. About 10 years ago, other categories that faced this issue were renamed in this same fashion. This appears to be the only one on my radar that was missed. Please see here for the discussion that lead to fixing the "song" category and also the larger discussion here that originally got us thinking. Grk1011 (talk) 14:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Especially true for countries whose demonym is a sensitive issue or not necessarily a synonym for the nationality, such as British and Irish. dummelaksen (talk) 14:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Suppert with one change: "Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Macedonia" should be "Eurovision Song Contest entrants of North Macedonia" to reflect the country's name as of February 2019. IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 15:08, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Fixed. I wrote that on the category page itself, but apparently didn't carry it over onto this page. Grk1011 (talk) 15:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 19:55, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 08:47, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Celine Dion, Canadian, won this for Switzerland in the 80s. Oculi (talk) 10:38, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per Oculi. There are some who are Americans (not just Canadians nor other nationals). SpinnerLaserz (talk) 02:35, 16 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Question, inspired by Oculi's comment: shouldn't the category names contain "for" instead of "of"? Marcocapelle (talk) 16:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all per WP:OC. If kept, it should be "for" (country represented) not "of" nationality.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:00, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The proposal is "of" (country represented). The existing wording I want to change assigns the nationality. Why do you prefer "for" instead? Grk1011 (talk) 14:23, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Pleas address Marcocapelle's question and Peterkingiron's suggestion to delete instead.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 06:58, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:PERFCAT is probably not applicable in this particular case, since many Eurovision Song Contest entrants are primarily notable because of the Eurovision Song Contest. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment re nationality. We actually use from in the few cases where 'Fooian' won't do, eg . 'representing' would be the correct word, albeit long. Oculi (talk) 11:26, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * "representing" is clearly better than "from" since it is more accurate and the word is often used in the articles. Also, from may suggest that they are physically from a certain country, which is not always the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:52, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment -- I suggested "for" as referring to country represented. "of" might imply nationality, as would "from".  I accept the argument re PERFCAT, though some are established performers for whom it would technically apply.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:43, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that "for" is about equivalent and therefore just as good as "representing" (or maybe it is even better simply because it is shorter). Marcocapelle (talk) 18:53, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Celine Dion was the entrant for Switzerland sounds right, so I will back for. Oculi (talk) 21:23, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Anything that is not a demonym My current preference is "representing". Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support anything that is not a demonym. I would have a slight preference towards for which sounds a bit more elegant. Place Clichy (talk) 19:56, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * As nominator, I would support the change to "for" as suggested since they are ultimately doing something for a country. Grk1011 (talk) 20:04, 22 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Digital Media Company

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 01:41, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Digital Media Company to Category:Digital media companies
 * Nominator's rationale: Fix capitalisation, and use plural per convention for set categories. Alternatively, delete as vague.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 04:30, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Fix capitalization and use the plural. إيان (talk) 12:05, 22 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Liberty Award winners

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 01:41, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Liberty Award winners
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
 * English Wikipedia doesn't have a main article on this journalism award but German Wikipedia does here and it doesn't have a category. (Liberty Award is a redirect to a different Dutch award.) There's only one article (Andreas Landwehr) so there's nothing to listify. I can't definitively say that this award is non-defining but there is nothing in English Wikipedia that even hints it might be. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * *RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:44, 25 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:53, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


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Category:ICT Awards
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 01:42, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:ICT Awards
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT
 * This category is for the actual award articles (not recipients) given for the Information and communications technology approach to computing. The problem is that only 1 of the 3 articles (Beacon of ICT Awards) is actually an ICT award and there's limited growth potential. Alternatively, if kept, rename to Category: Information and communications technology awards. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Business and industry awards, too small to keep indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per Marcoapelle....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 09:53, 20 April 2020 (UTC)


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