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Category:Recipients of awards from the United States National Academy of Sciences
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Category:Husbands of Roman Emperors
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Category:Skotos games

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 16:50, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting skotos games


 * Nominator's rationale: This category has only one article in it. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 20:41, 2 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:22, 3 August 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Poland-related articles by quality

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 16:56, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Poland-related articles by quality to Category:Poland articles by quality
 * Nominator's rationale: For unification with other corresponding categories about countries; for example, . 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:21, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Concur: the meaning of the proposed category name seems unequivocal enough: it is about Poland, not by Poland; and it is less of a drain on mental-processing energy. Thanks. Nihil novi (talk) 05:27, 3 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename per C2c. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 08:34, 6 August 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Achaemenid satraps of Persis

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 17:00, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Achaemenid satraps of Persis to Category:Satraps of the Achaemenid Empire and Category:Governors of Fars
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only two articles in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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Category:In the Heat of the Night films

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 16:58, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:In the Heat of the Night films to Category:Virgil Tibbs
 * Nominator's rationale: I feel it would make more sense to name the category after the main character than after only the name of the first instalment. ★Trekker (talk) 07:55, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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Category:The Circuit films

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 16:58, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:The Circuit films to Category:The Circuit (film series)
 * Nominator's rationale: "The Circuit" can refer to multiple other films not part of the series. ★Trekker (talk) 10:12, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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Category:Files for cleanup
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Category:Convert dimension mismatch
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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete per WP:CSD. <b style="color:#4169E1;">Ə</b> XPLICIT  12:01, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting convert dimension mismatch


 * Nominator's rationale: The related template has been deleted. The category is no longer referenced by any templates or modules. —⁠andrybak (talk) 17:12, 2 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, fine to delete. -- WOSlinker (talk) 18:11, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per G8. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 08:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Australian rules footballers at the 1927 Melbourne Carnival
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 16:51, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting australian rules footballers at the 1908 melbourne carnival


 * Propose deleting australian rules footballers at the 1927 melbourne carnival


 * Nominator's rationale:overcategorisation: "Avoid categorizing performers by an appearance at an event" The-Pope (talk) 15:44, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom (t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:48, 2 August 2020 (UTC)


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Category:WikiProjects
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 * The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn by nominator. —⁠andrybak (talk) 11:47, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:WikiProjects to Category:WikiProjects administration
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * To avoid confusion with Category:Wikipedia WikiProjects.
 * This would be consistent with Category:Wikipedia administration and its subcategories, like Category:Wikipedia administration by topic, Category:Wikipedia namespace administration, and Category:Wikipedia citation administration.
 * Not sure about using plural "WikiProjects" here. Category:WikiProject administration might also be good. —⁠andrybak (talk) 14:46, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose I don;t see a risk of confusion; this category id for collecting all WikiProjects, including those that are subject-area related. Category:Wikipedia WikiProjects id for projects that are not related to specific encyclopedic subject areas.  UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:32, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment, I find the names confusing but the proposed rename does not solve it. Renaming Category:Wikipedia WikiProjects to e.g. Category:WikiProjects for Wikipedia maintenance would help better to distinguish the two. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:30, 5 August 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Sunday Times Rich List
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. MER-C 18:39, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting sunday times rich list


 * Nominator's rationale: Apart from Sunday Times Rich List, all the other articles in this category are now at AfD as copyvios, listed in the same discussion. The retention or deletion of the category depends on the outcome of that discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sunday Times Rich List 1989. The navigation template is also part of the deletion Fiddle   Faddle  14:28, 2 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. For the same reason stated in the AfD. --Bsherr (talk) 18:09, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment, as it is unlikely that the articles are going to be deleted, this discussion will be moot soon. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:22, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, same outcome as the AfD discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:18, 21 August 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Articles using sidebar games events without correct name
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 16:58, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Articles using sidebar games events without correct name to Category:Templates using sidebar games events without correct name
 * Nominator's rationale: Module:Sidebar games events categorizes only template pages when the parameter name is incorrect or is missing. See the very bottom of its source code, line 307 at Special:Permalink/874218002. Template namespace has number 10. If there will be consensus to rename, then I'll open a WP:TPER to update the module. —⁠andrybak (talk) 13:44, 2 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. —Mdaniels5757 (talk) 15:05, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Petroleum companies
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. There doesn't seem to be major opposition to this specific merge, but dissatisfaction with the tree in general. That will have to be the subject of a future discussion.  bibliomaniac  1  5  19:26, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose upmerging


 * Category:Petroleum companies established in 1959 into Category:Non-renewable resource companies established in 1959
 * Category:Petroleum companies established in 1988 into Category:Non-renewable resource companies established in 1988
 * Nominator's rationale: The above categories only cover two years and include only four and one articles respectively; there is no justification to keep these five articles separate from the main categories in which it is proposed to merge them. Hugo999 (talk) 10:48, 2 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Unhappy -- My problem is not with the principle of merger (which I support), but with the target. It is not good to categorise things by what they are not.  Petroleum companies are typically also interested in natural gas.  One of the companies in a target is a coal company.  I would accordingly suggest that both should be merged into Category:Fossil fuel companies established in 1959; also any siblings.  I would expect Energy companies to be split into renewable, nuclear, and fossil fuel.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:41, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: The proposed "target" category includes both oil & gas as well as coal companies, but I think they can all be classed as "Non-renewable resource companies" (i.e. they are not being categorised as "what they are not" ?). If you want to rename this category to "Fossil fuel companies" this should be a separate nomination for c165 categories by year plus decades. Re nuclear power companies, most manufacturing and operating companies also do coal or oil plants as well, and there would be few exclusively "nuclear" companies to justify a separate category by year (the Japan Atomic Power Company and Westinghouse Electric Company are exceptions).Hugo999 (talk) 13:42, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. A rename of the targets should be discussed in a separate nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:25, 3 August 2020 (UTC)


 *  Further comment: The "Energy companies by year" categories have subcategories of "Public uilities by year" e.g.  Category:Public utilities established in 1973 and also "Energy infrastructure completed by year" e.g. Category:Energy infrastructure completed in 1988 though both these categories appear to be incomplete. As I said, many "Non-renewable resource companies" (both manufacturing and operating) are involved with several types of fuel so making it difficult to split them into say petroleum (oil), natural gas, coal and nuclear. Nuclear power plants are thermal (steam) plants so were built by manufacturers of large coal or oil plants like Westinghouse. Hugo999 (talk) 00:11, 8 August 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Baked goods
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 * The result of the discussion was: split to new parent Category:Baked foods. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:15, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Baked goods to Category:Baked foods
 * Nominator's rationale: "Baked goods" specifically means "a food (such as a bread, cake, or cookie) made from a dough or batter that is baked" (Merriam-Webster). The existing category, however, includes all baked foods, such as Baked potato, Meatloaf, Tandoori chicken, etc. etc., which are never called baked goods in English. Eventually, there should probably be a subcategory Category:Baked goods covering only baked foods made from dough or batter, but for now, let's correct the name of this category to reflect what it contains. --Macrakis (talk) 18:14, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, our List of baked goods only includes dough and batter-based foods. Some of the illustrations (but not the text) include other foods, and I will remove those now. --Macrakis (talk) 18:39, 14 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom, you might even wonder if this has been a plain typo. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:01, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Prefer Purge to actual "Baked goods", or split to that & the wider Baked foods. We should have a category for baked goods, a very major food group - baked foods is a trivial intersection by comparison. Johnbod (talk) 21:47, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I think we agree on the end result: Category:Baked goods should be a subcategory of Category:Baked foods. The only question is how to do it. I am guessing that there are tools to help do this, but I'm not familiar with them -- can someone point me to them? --Macrakis (talk) 00:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not that difficult - most of the baked goods are in the subcats, and the articles directly in the category are mostly "baked foods", so I propose Split, setting up Category:Baked foods above this, and populate it. Some things, like sausage roll might belong in both. Johnbod (talk) 14:29, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * For preference split -- I suspect the compilers of Merriam-Webster had not heard of Tandoori ovens. I think there is a case for a category for goods whose main ingredient is flour, but this can be defined in a headnote.  This is not entirely simple since filled pastry goods will only have flour as the main ingredient of the pastry part.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:49, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Support it seems like these are foods; e.g., I don't see bricks which are usually baked (sometimes by the sun). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:40, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Support I saw this at the Wikiproject Food and Drink page. I'd previously seen this category and thought it was problematic for the reason User talk:Carlossuarez46 states so clearly above. Baked foods would be a better description of the category contents. For similar reasons I don't think we need the redirect "Baked dishes" either. Spudlace (talk) 07:52, 27 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Lymphoid system anatomy templates
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 16:59, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Lymphoid system anatomy templates to Category:Lymphatic system anatomy templates
 * Nominator's rationale: Move to common name and also the name of the primary article (Lymphatic system). N-gram here: : I don't seem to be able to move categories, so I am proposing this here. Tom (LT) (talk) 07:38, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Rename in the spirit of WP:C2D. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:00, 2 August 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Geological surveying
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