Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 19



Category:Maskil

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Nominated category was empty at close.. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:21, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Maskil to Category:Maskilim
 * Nominator's rationale: Pluralization as per Naming conventions (plurals). Kyuko (talk) 19:54, 19 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Purge, with many articles it is not clear why they are in this category in the first place. Also, in some other articles the term Haskalah is used instead of Maskil so I wonder whether we need to merge both categories to Category:Haskalah. Finally it is a borderline case of definingness. If kept, I agree with nom about pluralization. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * With respect to the nomination in the narrower sense, support. It is pretty obvious that we should not keep Category:Maskil to Category:Maskilim in parallel and that we should use plural. My earlier comments refer to the target Category:Maskilim after I found that Category:Maskil was empty. I should have mentioned that. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:15, 27 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment Category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 15:40, 24 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Catholic Church councils in the Middle Ages

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:18, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting catholic church councils in the middle ages


 * Nominator's rationale: delete in the spirit of WP:OVERLAPCAT, this category has no added value as it only contains by-century subcategories while we already have Category:Catholic Church councils by century. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:09, 19 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:53, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment -- There may be some merit in this, as having church councils between the Great Schism and the Protestant Reformation. Later ones would not be accepted by Protestants.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:31, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It is not certain that high and late medieval councils are recognized by Protestants. Besides that may vary from one Protestant denomination to another. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 20:06, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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Buyid governors

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:17, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Buyid governors of Azerbaijan to Category:Buyid governors and Category:Medieval Iranian Azerbaijan
 * Propose merging Category:Buyid governors of Isfahan to Category:Buyid governors and Category:History of Isfahan Province
 * Propose merging Category:Buyid governors of Iraq to Category:Buyid governors and Category:Medieval Iraqi people
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, only one or two articles per category. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:57, 19 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 20:07, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Iranian artifacts abroad

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:16, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting iranian artifacts abroad


 * Nominator's rationale: User has also recently created List of Iranian artifacts abroad, and added Xerxes I inscription at Van and Darius the Great's Suez Inscriptions in modern Turkey and Egypt respectively. This seems to be an attempt to claim anything from Persian empires of antiquity as belonging to modern-day Iran. Also we don't categorise artifacts by "not in "original" country", the closest is dividing some of the most populated categories in such as British Museum and Louvre by department. Le Deluge (talk) 09:15, 19 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, anachronistic category, Van and Suez were part of the Achaemenid Empire at the time, so it was not abroad. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:43, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems to be a POV category, concerning modern claims on archaeological items. Dimadick (talk) 18:08, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. and Marcocapelle. Can only imagine a Greek or Roman counterpart to this category given the reductions in their territories from their zeniths. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:47, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 20:08, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * keep or change. the subject need a category, may it be changed to another CATEGORY such as :Persika artifacts. Iranzamin artifacts . Iranshari artifacts.Iranshari artifacts or Greater Iran artifacts . or similar names.  02:06, 28 December 2020 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 (talk • contribs)
 * The inscriptions are already in Category:Achaemenid inscriptions, there is no need to create an overlapping category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:26, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Modern names of Latin origin

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:15, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting modern names of latin origin


 * Nominator's rationale: Creator was obviously not aware of the existing name hierarchy, and this doesn't really fit in the likes of . Le Deluge (talk) 08:55, 19 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, not a defining characteristic. Besides the category contains mistakes, Angelica is of Greek origin, Ava is of Germanic origin. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:47, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * @User:Marcocapelle, If you're not aware, names can have multiple origins and the wikipedia pages themselves say root words and names have latin origin likethe Angleica wikipedia's page says "Angelica comes from the Latin angelicus ("angelic")" this is right before the greek origin sentence. You should have seen that if you looked at the page. And Ava has multiple origns as well including a latin origin. source. And even if this is false, what does this have to do with this deletion proces anyway? ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ (talk) 16:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It is relevant because if the category is kept we should purge some articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:33, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete with vague labels like "modern", this is no better than a WP:SHAREDNAME category. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 00:18, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete -- this seems to be rather too selective and probably often incorrect anyway. It deserves TNT.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:33, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Latin given names. Latin was still in use until recently, the category should not be limited to ancient names. Dimadick (talk) 18:11, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose automated merging, these are Anglicised names derived from Latin, they generally are not Latin names themselves. Articles may be manually recategorized to Category:Latin given names if applicable. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:33, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SHAREDNAME, and "Latin origin" begs the question of what sort of origin makes it Latin? A name that is Anglicized versions of Old French which comes from Vulgar Latin? A name that is Spanish from Vulgar Latin? What if the name in Latin is attested in Oscan or Etruscan antecedents, is Latin no longer the "origin" but merely a conduit? These are best handled in sourced lists where these distinctions can be made and sourced. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:50, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 20:11, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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Architecture and landmarks by city in Sri Lanka

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:12, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging
 * Category:Architecture of Ambalangoda to Category:Ambalangoda
 * Category:Architecture of Anuradhapura to Category:Anuradhapura
 * Category:Architecture of Badulla to Category:Badulla
 * Category:Architecture of Bandarawela to Category:Bandarawela
 * Category:Architecture of Batticaloa to Category:Batticaloa
 * Category:Architecture of Chavakachcheri to Category:Chavakachcheri


 * Category:Architecture of Colombo to Category:Colombo
 * Category:Architecture of Dehiwala-Mount Lavinia to Category:Dehiwala-Mount Lavinia
 * Category:Architecture of Elpitiya to Category:Elpitiya
 * Category:Architecture of Galle to Category:Galle
 * Category:Architecture of Gampaha to Category:Gampaha
 * Category:Architecture of Hambantota to Category:Hambantota
 * Category:Architecture of Horana to Category:Horana
 * Category:Architecture of Jaffna to Category:Jaffna
 * Category:Architecture of Kalutara to Category:Kalutara
 * Category:Architecture of Kandy to Category:Kandy
 * Category:Architecture of Kegalle to Category:Kegalle
 * Category:Architecture of Kelaniya to Category:Kelaniya
 * Category:Architecture of Kilinochchi to Category:Kilinochchi
 * Category:Architecture of Kuliyapitiya to Category:Kuliyapitiya
 * Category:Architecture of Kurunegala to Category:Kurunegala
 * Category:Architecture of Manipay to Category:Manipay
 * Category:Architecture of Mannar, Sri Lanka to Category:Mannar, Sri Lanka
 * Category:Architecture of Matale to Category:Matale
 * Category:Architecture of Matara, Sri Lanka to Category:Matara, Sri Lanka
 * Category:Architecture of Matugama to Category:Matugama
 * Category:Architecture of Mirigama to Category:Mirigama
 * Category:Architecture of Moratuwa to Category:Moratuwa
 * Category:Architecture of Mullaitivu to Category:Mullaitivu
 * Category:Architecture of Negombo to Category:Negombo
 * Category:Architecture of Panadura to Category:Panadura
 * Category:Architecture of Peradeniya to Category:Peradeniya
 * Category:Architecture of Point Pedro to Category:Point Pedro
 * Category:Architecture of Polonnaruwa to Category:Polonnaruwa
 * Category:Architecture of Ratnapura to Category:Ratnapura
 * Category:Architecture of Sri Jayawardenepura Kotte to Category:Sri Jayawardenepura Kotte
 * Category:Architecture of Tangalle to Category:Tangalle
 * Category:Architecture of Tellippalai to Category:Tellippalai
 * Category:Architecture of Trincomalee to Category:Trincomalee
 * Category:Architecture of Udupiddy to Category:Udupiddy
 * Category:Architecture of Vavuniya to Category:Vavuniya


 * Category:Landmarks in Ambalangoda to Category:Ambalangoda
 * Category:Landmarks in Anuradhapura to Category:Anuradhapura
 * Category:Landmarks in Badulla to Category:Badulla
 * Category:Landmarks in Bandarawela to Category:Bandarawela
 * Category:Landmarks in Batticaloa to Category:Batticaloa
 * Category:Landmarks in Chavakachcheri to Category:Chavakachcheri


 * Category:Landmarks in Colombo to Category:Colombo
 * Category:Landmarks in Dehiwala-Mount Lavinia to Category:Dehiwala-Mount Lavinia
 * Category:Landmarks in Elpitiya to Category:Elpitiya
 * Category:Landmarks in Galle to Category:Galle
 * Category:Landmarks in Gampaha to Category:Gampaha
 * Category:Landmarks in Hambantota to Category:Hambantota
 * Category:Landmarks in Horana to Category:Horana
 * Category:Landmarks in Jaffna to Category:Jaffna
 * Category:Landmarks in Kalutara to Category:Kalutara
 * Category:Landmarks in Kandy to Category:Kandy
 * Category:Landmarks in Kegalle to Category:Kegalle
 * Category:Landmarks in Kelaniya to Category:Kelaniya
 * Category:Landmarks in Kilinochchi to Category:Kilinochchi
 * Category:Landmarks in Kuliyapitiya to Category:Kuliyapitiya
 * Category:Landmarks in Kurunegala to Category:Kurunegala
 * Category:Landmarks in Manipay to Category:Manipay
 * Category:Landmarks in Mannar, Sri Lanka to Category:Mannar, Sri Lanka
 * Category:Landmarks in Matale to Category:Matale
 * Category:Landmarks in Matara, Sri Lanka to Category:Matara, Sri Lanka
 * Category:Landmarks in Matugama to Category:Matugama
 * Category:Landmarks in Mirigama to Category:Mirigama
 * Category:Landmarks in Moratuwa to Category:Moratuwa
 * Category:Landmarks in Mullaitivu to Category:Mullaitivu
 * Category:Landmarks in Negombo to Category:Negombo
 * Category:Landmarks in Panadura to Category:Panadura
 * Category:Landmarks in Peradeniya to Category:Peradeniya
 * Category:Landmarks in Point Pedro to Category:Point Pedro
 * Category:Landmarks in Polonnaruwa to Category:Polonnaruwa
 * Category:Landmarks in Ratnapura to Category:Ratnapura
 * Category:Landmarks in Sri Jayawardenepura Kotte to Category:Sri Jayawardenepura Kotte
 * Category:Landmarks in Tangalle to Category:Tangalle
 * Category:Landmarks in Tellippalai to Category:Tellippalai
 * Category:Landmarks in Trincomalee to Category:Trincomalee
 * Category:Landmarks in Udupiddy to Category:Udupiddy
 * Category:Landmarks in Vavuniya to Category:Vavuniya


 * Nominator's rationale: merge, these are two almost empty category layers except they largely duplicate the tree of buildings and structures. Following this, I will also nominate the architecture and landmarks categories by district which suffer from the same problem as the ones by city. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:27, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 20:41, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support — Yeoman duty nominating so many at one time. Those I've checked already had their single shared subcategory in the target category. How in the world "buildings and structures" became a subcategory of "landmarks"? Seems backwards.
 * Support merging per nom and per WP:SMALLCAT. -- Just N. (talk) 20:13, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Genocide of Serbs in the Independent State of Croatia denial

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:10, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Genocide of Serbs in the Independent State of Croatia denial to Category:Genocide of Serbs in the Independent State of Croatia and Category:Genocide denial
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, only contains one article and one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:53, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 20:33, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support — although the {main article} needs to be merged to the subcategory. Done in advance, as the subcategory is up for renaming, and it shouldn't be lost.
 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 20:15, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Obselete denominations of the Philippine peso

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:09, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Obselete denominations of the Philippine peso to Category:Obsolete denominations of the Philippine peso
 * Nominator's rationale: typo in name Neils51 (talk) 02:49, 19 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename per C2A. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 04:23, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename per C2A. This could have been listed for speedy renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:31, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry my mistake. Neils51 (talk) 10:32, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename per C2A. The sibling categories should be reviewed and the nomenclature harmonized (some are historic, some are obsolete; some are just currencies. I'm sure that someone would suggest 'defunct' as WP uses that for things that are no longer used or in existence.). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:54, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename per C2A. --Just N. (talk) 20:16, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Order of Boyaca
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:08, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Recipients of the Order of Boyaca
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:PERFCAT and WP:OCAWARD)
 * When foreign leaders visit Colombia, or vice versa, the Order of Boyaca is given out as souvenir to commemorate the visit. Chiang Kai-shek, Albert I of Belgium, and Prince Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld are not remotely defined by this award. (The award is not exclusively for foreigners though with about a fourth of category consisting of Colombians and, of those, 7 mention the award in passing—1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7—and 3 not at all—8, 9, 10—so it's not defining for them either.) The recipients are already listified here in the main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:42, 19 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Background In the past, we've deleted dozens of similar categories for high ranking visitors and those nominations are listed right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:42, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete this is overcategorizing, category clutter that needs to be deleted with more than all deliverate speed.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:51, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:OCAWARD. --Just N. (talk) 20:17, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Order of the Star of Anjouan
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:08, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Recipients of the Order of the Star of Anjouan
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Grand Crosses of the Order of the Star of Anjouan‎
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Grand Officers of the Order of the Star of Anjouan‎
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
 * These 3 categories have 3 articles total and I'm not sure why any of them actually received the Order of the Star of Anjouan, a French colonial award for the Comoros. Raoul Magrin-Vernerey and Marie-Pierre Kœnig were both life-long military officers so maybe they were stationed in the Comoros at some point? Pakubuwono X was royalty from what was then the Dutch East Indies so maybe he visited the Comoros at some point? Beyond the award, none of the 3 articles even mention the Comoros so whatever this was for doesn't seem defining. There wasn't a list so I created one right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:42, 19 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete category clutter is way too common.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:OCAWARD. --Just N. (talk) 20:17, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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