Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 20



Category:Works based on Street Fighter
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Category:Television series based on Street Fighter

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:33, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series based on Street Fighter to Category:Street Fighter television series
 * Nominator's rationale: "Street Fighter" is not a singular work, it's a franchise, it makes more sense to treat it like other franchise categories. ★Trekker (talk) 22:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Support I agree that this is a media franchise, and not a singular work. Dimadick (talk) 17:52, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Street Fighter (1970s series) films

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:33, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Street Fighter (1970s series) films to Category:The Street Fighter
 * Nominator's rationale: Current name is very clunky. ★Trekker (talk) 22:23, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Support To match the title of the original film. Though the film series could use its own main article. Dimadick (talk) 17:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Historic places in Brazil

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:32, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting historic places in brazil


 * Nominator's rationale: Unique name ("historic places in X country"). We already have category:Historic sites in Brazil Estopedist1 (talk) 19:50, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as a duplicate. All members are already in the other category. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 00:16, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:OVERLAPCAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:14, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Duplicate category. Dimadick (talk) 17:54, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as a duplicate. --Just N. (talk) 20:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Historic places in Estonia

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:31, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting historic places in estonia


 * Nominator's rationale: Unique name ("historic places in X country"). We already have category:Historic sites in Estonia Estopedist1 (talk) 19:48, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as a duplicate. All members are already in the other category. –LaundryPizza03</b> ( d c̄ ) 00:16, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:OVERLAPCAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:14, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Duplicate category. Dimadick (talk) 17:55, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as a duplicate. --Just N. (talk) 20:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Proposed states and territories of India
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:31, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Proposed states and territories of India to Category:Proposed states and union territories of India
 * Nominator's rationale: Consistent with the main article title and Category:States and union territories of India. Soumya-8974 (he) talk contribs subpages 13:56, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy Per WP:C2C and WP:C2D and there's no consistent format in Category:Proposed country subdivisions to match against. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:16, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support To match its parent category. Dimadick (talk) 17:56, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per above. -- Ab207 (talk) 06:33, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 20:29, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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Industry
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:29, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Industry to Category:Industry (manufacturing)
 * Propose renaming Category:Industries to Category:Industries (economics)
 * Nominator's rationale: rename / disambiguate to match article space. Industry is a disambiguation page, linking to Industry (manufacturing) and Industry (economics). It looks like Category:Industry relates to Industry (manufacturing) while Category:Industries relates to Industry (economics). This is follow-up on this earlier discussion started by User:S.K.. An attempt to get WikiProject Economics involved in this discussion did not lead to any further comments. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:25, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: The split would work for me. An alternative I was thinking about was to keep the two category names as is but give Category:Industry the meaning industry (economics) and make it a WP:TOPICCAT while Category:Industries becomes the corresponding WP:SETCAT for the same meaning. Not sure this would be understood though. --S.K. (talk) 18:23, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Support I think this is a clearer breakdown. Definitely open to reconsideration of concerns from other editors though. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:48, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: Just realized the suggestion says Category:Industries (economics) (plural). Wouldn’t it be better to use Category:Industry (economics) (singular) to match the article? --S.K. (talk) 11:25, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No, it is clearly a set category, collecting all industries. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay with Category:Industries (economics) becoming a set category, in which category would e.g. Category:Industry classifications or Category:Businesspeople by industry be put? Currently they are in Category:Industries. --S.K. (talk) 03:29, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Excellent point. So basically wat you are implying here is that we may need to split Category:Industries to Category:Industry (economics) and subCategory:Industries (economics). I would be fine with that. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:08, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yep, cool, that would work. Singular for the topic category and plural for the set category. Perfect for me. --S.K. (talk) 08:59, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 20:24, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Clearer disambiguation. Dimadick (talk) 17:57, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support To provide more clearer categorization. desmay (talk) 19:07, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support — match main articles. Really like that we are carefully distingishing set categories.
 * Support I was involved in splitting the article, so this seems like a natural next step (off-topic, but the Outline of industry probably needs splitting too). Also, while maybe not relevant for categories, much of the split content actually wound up in Industrial society rather than Industry (economics) or Industry (manufacturing). That corresponded to "industry" in the vague sense of how an industrialized economy works in the abstract. --Zar2gar1 (talk) 03:17, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support — match main articles. --Just N. (talk) 20:30, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Further comment (by nom): we should leave Category:Industry as a dab page. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


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Mayors of places in Azerbaijan
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:27, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Mayors of Ganja, Azerbaijan to Category:Mayors of places in Azerbaijan and Category:Politicians from Ganja, Azerbaijan
 * Propose merging Category:Mayors of Khojaly to Category:Mayors of places in Azerbaijan and Category:People from Khojali
 * Propose merging Category:Mayors of Shusha to Category:Mayors of places in Azerbaijan and Category:Politicians from Shusha
 * Propose merging Category:Mayors of Sumqayit to Category:Mayors of places in Azerbaijan and Category:People from Sumqayit
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, just one or two articles in each of these categories and they are not part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:18, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 20:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge for Now While these places likely had more than five mayors, most would be non-notable. No objection to recreating later if I'm wrong and any ever get to 5+ articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 11:23, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:SMALLCAT


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Category:Midnight Club
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:27, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting midnight club


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer similar to WP:OCEPON cases, all content is already in the subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:15, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete this and Category:Midnight Club games per WP:SMALLCAT. Should not have been created.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 13:51, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * (as nom) I am neutral towards deletion of the subcategory. Four articles is a borderline WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:18, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Parent/Keep Subcat per nom. While I normally prefer 5+ articles, the subcategory has growth potential and would need to be tagged. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to subcategory Category:Midnight Club games. There are only five articles, we do not need to have two categories. Dimadick (talk) 17:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Crazy Taxi
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete; merging contents as appropriate to subcategories'. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:26, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting crazy taxi


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer similar to WP:OCEPON cases, all content is already in the video games subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:15, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge Category:Crazy Taxi video games into this.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 13:53, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No, we already discussed that that is not a proper solution, see Categories for discussion/Log/2020 November 20. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:10, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * pinging the other contributors to the earlier discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:14, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I can't say I understand why this category, the original one for the series, should be deleted. Can you please point me to the relevant Wikipedia policy?ZXCVBNM (TALK) 20:01, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:CAT: "The central goal of the category system is to provide navigational links to Wikipedia pages." This category only links to the eponymous article and one valid video games subcategory as content. Other than that it links to a template (which we normally do not include in a content category) and a subcategory of media files (which are included in the articles anyway). So the category does not provide any navigational benefit. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge to subcategory Category:Crazy Taxi video games. This franchise contains only video games, we do not need two categories. Dimadick (talk) 18:01, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Dream Chronicles
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:24, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting dream chronicles


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer similar to WP:OCEPON cases, all content is already in the subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:13, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nom. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:40, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to its subcategory. The main article is missing from the other category. Dimadick (talk) 18:03, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:17, 27 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Order of the Two Niles
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:23, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Recipients of the Order of the Two Niles
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:PERFCAT and WP:OCAWARD)
 * When foreign officials visit Sudan, or vice versa, the Order of the Two Niles is given out as souvenir to commemorate the visit. José Graziano da Silva, Koča Popović and Arthur Young (police officer) are not remotely defined by this award. I copied the current category contents right here so no work is lost if anyone wants to start a main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:06, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Background In the past, we've deleted dozens of similar categories for high ranking visitors and those nominations are listed right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:06, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, another obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:13, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete but listify properly -- These diplomatic honours are a menace in WP, but rather than a talk page, the list should actually be created. This should be a matter of course.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:46, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * There is not even an article about the award, i.e. it is currently uncertain whether the award is notable or not. Then there is certainly no requirement for listification. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:23, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I share PKI's goal but I do not feel able to write an article that would pass WP:LISTN. I just added this award to the requested articles at WikiProject Sudan and linked the list of recipients there. Hopefully an editor with more topic area knowledge will pick it up but I don't favor keeping this non-defining category in the mean time. RevelationDirect (talk) 19:33, 24 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete If someone can create an adequately sourced article on the award, they can amend a list of receipients to it, but we should not mandate creating such a list in the abscence of reliable sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:28, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of Geuzenpenning
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:22, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Recipients of Geuzenpenning
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
 * The Geuzen Resistance 1940–1945 Foundation is an organization based in the Vlaardingen, Netherlands that gives out the Geuzenpenning award each year for fighting for "democracy and against dictatorship, racism and discrimination" in memory of the WWII resistance. The articles in the category are about evenly split between those that mention the award in passing and those that don't mention it at all so it doesn't seem defining for Václav Havel, Noel Pearson or Harry Wu. Organizational winners like Amnesty International, the Anne Frank Foundation and Doctors Without Borders also don't seem defined by it. The contents are already listified right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:06, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, another obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:14, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete We need to do much better at removing categories that violate OCAWARD rules.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:29, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


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