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Category:XIX Entertainment singles

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:54, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting xix entertainment singles


 * Nominator's rationale: Only 3 entries, all redirects, no navigational help. Richhoncho (talk) 23:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nom, doesn't aid navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:03, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:30, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 10:55, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Problem solving television series

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:53, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting problem solving television series


 * Nominator's rationale: "Problem solving" is an extremely vague way of describing a television series and inclusion criteria are unclear as "problem solving" tends not to be used to describe shows in reliable sources. The current entries seem to be a fairly random selection of shows and in my opinion none of them have "problem solving" as a defining characteristic of the show. I think shows would be better categorised using other categories. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 21:09, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Created by a user blocked for disruptive edits and ignoring warnings. –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 00:15, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Very vague name - and anything which could accommodate shows ranging from Growing Pains to Taskmaster is too broad to be of any use. Grutness... wha?   01:18, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Ill-defined category. Dimadick (talk) 12:28, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 10:56, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Chamber virtuosi of the Duke of Parma

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Court musicians. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Chamber virtuosi of the Duke of Parma to Category:Court artists
 * Nominator's rationale: Only 3 Rathfelder (talk) 19:57, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge, in addition it does not concern a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment all three were opera singers, so that I am not sure that "artists" is quite right, as I would expect it to refer to the graphic arts. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:51, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If merged, merge to Category:Court musicians, which I have boldly split from Category:Court artists. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:41, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That sounds fine to me. Rathfelder (talk) 21:55, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That surely is an improvement. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:09, 13 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Sex-related article shared content templates

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (no opposition), but nominated category was empty at the time of this close. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:19, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Sex-related article shared content templates to Category:Article shared content templates
 * Nominator's rationale: Only 2 templates, failing WP:SMALLCAT. –LaundryPizza03</b> ( d c̄ ) 19:36, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Diplomats by ethnicity
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:52, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting diplomats by ethnicity


 * Merge Category:Burgher diplomats to Category:Burgher people. All four articles are already in the appropriate subcategory for Sri Lankan diplomats.
 * Merge Category:Sinhalese diplomats to Category:Sinhalese people and Category:Sri Lankan diplomats
 * Merge Category:Tamil diplomats / Category:Sri Lankan Tamil diplomats to Category:Tamil people and Category:Sri Lankan diplomats
 * Merge Category:Yoruba diplomats / Category:Yoruba women diplomats to Category:Yoruba people (Note:Yoruba women diplomats is now empty because the category creator added it to articles without any proof or even claims of their ethnicity. The editor has been blocked for two weeks as a result.)
 * Delete Category:Burgher diplomats (The only article is in the appropriate subcategories)
 * Delete Category:Sri Lankan Moor diplomats (Articles are in appropriate subcategories)
 * Nominator's rationale: These are trivial intersections of ethnicity and profession. Diplomats represent nation-states, not ethnic groups. User:Namiba 19:13, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 22:06, 27 December 2020 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 18:18, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge - and perhaps quite a few more in Category:Tamil people by occupation. I dont see how ethnicity impacts on accountancy. Rathfelder (talk) 20:00, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge, trivial intersections with ethnicity are against WP:OCEGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:57, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge Per WP:OCEGRS and because diplomats are already coming from one nationality to another nationality (which often overlap with ethnicities) so this is just going to be a jumble. RevelationDirect (talk) 10:17, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support — another fine John Pack Lambert creation.
 * The above is an unfair, rude, and uncalled for personal attack. I did not create any of the sub-cats here. Mr. Simpson should cease and desist from his rudeness, and failure to assume good faith.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:08, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Apparently, JPL objects to description as fine his creation of diplomats by ethnicity. Noted. Nevertheless, it is certainly worthy of deletion.


 * Merge/Delete per nom. I find the attack on me for properly placing categories in an appropriate parent category uncalled for and unjustified. It is rude attacks like Mr. Simpson has perpetrated on people who try to rationally build categories in a connected way that undermines our ability to have civil discussions.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:10, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge/Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 11:00, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Video game leaks
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:48, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Video game leaks to Category:Video games that have been leaked
 * Nominator's rationale: Per this discussion, the current name of the category implies that the cat contains articles about leaks, rather than video games that have been leaked. I'm also not opposed to deleting this category if that's where consensus goes, but I'm not as familiar with those guidelines so I won't speak to that. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 19:07, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as trivial and non-defining.--User:Namiba 19:14, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as trivial and non-defining. Would a screenshot or something two days before announcement make a game qualify for this? ~ <b style="color: #660000;">Dissident93</b> (<b style="color: #D18719;">talk</b>) 22:19, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-defining and trivial. -- Le Panini [🥪] 02:04, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as trivial and non-defining. --Just N. (talk) 11:01, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:AWAL singles
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:47, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting awal singles


 * Nominator's rationale: Category contains 2 redirects only. No navigational help. Richhoncho (talk) 18:54, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Two is too few. ~ <b style="color: #660000;">Dissident93</b> (<b style="color: #D18719;">talk</b>) 22:19, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 11:28, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Mayors of places in Brazil
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:46, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Mayors of Lages to Category:Mayors of places in Brazil and Category:People from Lages
 * Propose merging Category:Mayors of Macapá to Category:Mayors of places in Brazil and Category:People from Macapá and Category:Amapá politicians
 * Propose merging Category:Mayors of Telêmaco Borba to Category:Mayors of places in Brazil and Category:People from Telêmaco Borba
 * Propose merging Category:Mayors of Teresina to Category:Mayors of places in Brazil and Category:People from Teresina and Category:Piauí politicians
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, just one, two or three articles in each of these categories and they are not part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge for Now These places had more than five mayors but most would not be notable. No objection to recreating any if they exceed expectations and ever get to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:16, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 11:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Accidental deaths by year
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:44, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Accidental deaths by year to Category:Accidental deaths and Category:Deaths by year
 * Nominator's rationale: Only content is Category:Victims of aviation accidents or incidents by year. This is an unnecessary intermediate category. Rathfelder (talk) 17:00, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 18:11, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:01, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 *  Merge — Thanks, I'd found it not long ago, intended nominating it later after all the other deathly stuff.
 * Merge Additional layer adds complexity without aiding navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge - it is not Category:Accidental deaths by year as it contains no subcats of form Category:Accidental deaths in XXXX. Oculi (talk) 02:43, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge Agreed with each of the above. This category adds no value. Kestenbaum (talk) 05:59, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 11:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional male deities
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Fictional male deities to Category:Fictional gods
 * Nominator's rationale: Unlike the singular "god", the plural "gods" clearly refers to the non-monotheistic deities. Similarly, the parent category is "gods". Therefore, it doesn't need the disambiguation like the main article would. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:27, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment, "fictional gods" may imply male and female fictional deities together, but perhaps we do not need the distinction by gender anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:04, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - follow the non-fictional parents and . Oculi (talk) 02:51, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support  A male deity is a god. Dimadick (talk) 12:29, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 11:34, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional males by occupation
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:41, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fictional males by occupation


 * Propose deleting fictional females by occupation


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:OCEGRS. Unless it's a gendered occupation, which there is a separate category for, these cross-categorizations are not notable. I.E., there is nothing special about a male detective that makes it necessary to have an X+Y category instead of being in both category X and category Y. Any subcategories should be merged into the relevant non-gendered parent category. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:10, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 22:33, 27 December 2020 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 18:32, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose, we need to discuss the subcategories either all in conjunction with the two top categories (with the risk of a trainwreck), or in multiple smaller nominations before we finally discuss the two top categories. Deleting the top categories before we delete the subcategories does not make any sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:09, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Agree with Marcocapelle's oppose. Jumping the gun here somewhat. ImaginesTigers (talk) 19:13, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose - as we have and  it's difficult see why fictional people should not be similarly categorised. There would be an argument for using men and women rather than males and females. Oculi (talk) 02:56, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose Rename both to Category:Fictional men by occupation and Category:Fictional women by occupation respectively Match and integrate into the non-fictional trees. There are some subcategories using "male" and "female" in the non-fictional trees. However, unless it is a gendered occupation, some of the subcategories should be deleted as a separate nomination. But let's be honest, we're not likely to get rid of Category:Female superheroes, as there are very few and the gender is notable.
 * I have been told once that fictional categories use "male" and "female" rather than "men" and "women" because some fictional characters are anthropomorphic rather than human. This is just for info, I do not actually oppose the rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:58, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, I've changed to oppose. It does seems reasonable to use male, female, hermaphrodite, et alia. Perhaps the standard tree is wrong? Where do we discuss such things these days? OTOH, it is "Wonder Woman".


 * Comment OCEGRS means we do not put individuals directly in categories that say men or women, only in categories that have an overlap of occupation (broadly defined) with sex. This is why Category:American women is supposed to be a container category. I am not sure if OCEGRS applies totally to articles on fictional beings. However since these or just contained categories, they do not violate OCEGRS rules.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:38, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose The rationale is incomprehensible. Dimadick (talk) 12:30, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose --Just N. (talk) 11:35, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:AfC pending submissions by age/2 weeks ago
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:40, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting afc pending submissions by age/2 weeks ago


 * Nominator's rationale: I believe this category has been split into Category:AfC pending submissions by age/14 days ago, Category:AfC pending submissions by age/15 days ago, Category:AfC pending submissions by age/16 days ago, Category:AfC pending submissions by age/17 days ago, Category:AfC pending submissions by age/18 days ago, Category:AfC pending submissions by age/19 days ago, and Category:AfC pending submissions by age/20 days ago. Ever since then, it has been empty, and is now useless. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  13:29, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, or otherwise turn into a parent category of the relevant per day categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:12, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 11:36, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Honorary Members of Xirka Ġieħ ir-Repubblika
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:39, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Honorary Members of Xirka Ġieħ ir-Repubblika
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:PERFCAT and WP:OCAWARD)
 * When foreign leaders visit Malta, or vice versa, the Honorary version of the Xirka Ġieħ ir-Repubblika is given out as souvenir to commemorate the visit. First Lady Maria Cavaco Silva, Queen Elizabeth II and General Harald Kujat are not remotely defined by this award. The contents are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:05, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Background In the past, we've deleted dozens of similar categories for high ranking visitors and those nominations are listed right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:05, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, another obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:36, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, not "defining" in any sense. Nigej (talk) 08:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Deleteper nom and WP:OCAWARD. --Just N. (talk) 11:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Bledisloe Medal
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:38, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Recipients of the Bledisloe Medal
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OVERLAPCAT and WP:OCAWARD)
 * The Bledisloe Medal is award given to alumni and faculty of Lincoln University (New Zealand), a small agricultural school. The award generally gets a passing mention in the biography articles so it doesn't seem defining and, by definition, all the articles should be under either Category:Lincoln University (New Zealand) alumni or Category:Lincoln University (New Zealand) faculty. The current category is really a draft list article in the wrong namespace that just needs some citations to establish notability so I copied the header and listed the contents here and here so no work is lost. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:05, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, another obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom. In addition there is no article about the medal, which should be a prerequisite in such cases. Nigej (talk) 08:14, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:OCAWARD. --Just N. (talk) 11:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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