Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 February 26



Category:Wikipedia header templates

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) —⁠andrybak (talk) 15:34, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Wikipedia header templates to Category:Header templates
 * Nominator's rationale: Category:Wikipedia header templates was initially intended only for templates in Wikipedia namespace, as its categorization into Category:Wikipedia namespace templates and hatnote link to Template messages/Wikipedia namespace both indicate. Since then, however, a lot of different header templates accreted in this category. Examples:
 * Category:Backlog templates‎ is full of templates for usage in not only in Wikipedia namespace, but also in categories such as Admin backlog.
 * Template:User sandbox and Category:Essay header templates‎, which are often used in User namespace.
 * Template:IPA key, which is used in Help namespace.
 * Alternative: Propose renaming Category:Wikipedia header templates to Category:Page header templates. —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:20, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * ❌ I've came up with a better solution to the situation. —⁠andrybak (talk) 11:09, 29 February 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Ipswich MPs

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: keep as withdrawn by nom. (non-admin closure) ミラP 03:28, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Ipswich to Category:Ipswich MPs
 * Propose merging Category:Members of the Parliament of Great Britain for Ipswich to Category:Ipswich MPs
 * Propose merging Category:Members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom for Ipswich to Category:Ipswich MPs
 * Nominator's rationale: Merging category overlap (albeit minor) to harmonize with majority of subcategories in here. It doesn't seem necessary to split this into three since the MP term categories have it covered, and in two articles there's a clear overlap. ミラP 14:54, 26 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Support for consistency with similar categories. Note that the target (the parent category) should be nominated for speedy renaming to Category:Members of Parliament for Ipswich. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:32, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose:
 * These are different posts. The Parliament of England, Parliament of Great Britain and Parliament of the United Kingdom are separate bodies.
 * None of these categories are under-sized. There are 114 MPs in total, broken down as follows:
 * Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Ipswich — population:
 * Category:Members of the Parliament of Great Britain for Ipswich — population:
 * Category:Members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom for Ipswich — population:
 * The overlap is trivial. Of the 111 MPs on whom we have current articles, only 4 are in in more than one category. WP:OVERLAPCAT applies to categories with "a large overlap", but this overlap applies to less than 4% of the set ... so WP:OVERLAPCAT does not apply.
 * Overlap between England and GB: 2 articles (Henry Poley and John Bence)
 * Overlap between GB and UK: 2 articles (Sir Andrew Hamond, Bt and Charles Crickitt)
 * Merging will pollute the category trees for Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707), Category:Members of the Parliament of Great Britain and Category:Members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom. This impedes maintenance using WP:AWB and analysis using tools such as Petscan, and misleads readers into thinking that these three parliaments were the same thing.
 * So there is no policy-based or logical reason to merge these categories ... and very good reason to not merge. The other recently-created subcats of Category:Members of Parliament by constituency are mostly recent creations by User:Miraclepine and User:Philafrenzy should be similarly split to match the older subcats such as Category:Ipswich MPs, Category:Members of Parliament for constituencies in Devon, Category:Derbyshire MPs etc.
 * please will you reconsider your !votes? -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 03:21, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Fine, I'll withdraw this due to how persuasive your words are, and ask User:Rathfelder to recategorize every page in the other cats into similar subcats. But the category's still being speedy-renamed. ミラP 03:28, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Albanian trap musicians

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to newly created Category:Trap musicians. Ə XPLICIT  11:39, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting albanian trap musicians


 * Nominator's rationale: There is no scheme of categories for "trap musicians". Articles within category are already in Category:Albanian rappers as there is no other upmerge candidates. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 00:54, 26 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:01, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: within Category:Trap music there is a sub-sub-cat, so perhaps Category:Trap musicians might usefully be created? – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:06, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Possibly, but then an upmerge would still be warranted here. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 15:34, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Concur with Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars, again. Also, which I only realize now, it is questionable whether "trap music" is a defining characteristic of the two articles in this category at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:22, 6 March 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Ardian Bujupi

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 22:58, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ardian bujupi


 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary eponymous category for two other related articles. WP:OCEPON. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 00:44, 26 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as per OCEPON.  J 947 &thinsp;(c) , at  01:29, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


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