Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 February 8



Category:Indicator species

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 17:28, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting indicator species


 * Propose deleting Category:Indicator species of North America
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining (e.g. for West Indian manatee), subjective and just not a good form of categorization (e.g. it's unlikely that a zoo, museum, book etc would categorize lifeforms based on whether or not they are used as an indicator). Also, the NA category appears to indicate that there are 3 definitions. That a species has been used as an indicator is something that (assuming it can be referenced etc) could be mentioned in the article text (and linked to the relevant article), but it doesn't need a category. DexDor(talk) 18:03, 8 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:35, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Indicator species are important for identifying environments under stress, but that does not make them notable as such. It is more about what species the researcher has selected for study.  That feels too idiosyncratic for a good category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 21:41, 9 February 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Sammarinese people of the Spanish Civil War

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 * The result of the discussion was: No consensus to delete Timrollpickering (Talk) 00:32, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting sammarinese people of the spanish civil war


 * Nominator's rationale: Small category unlikely to be further populated. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 17:01, 8 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. This is the absolute embodiment of part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme given that there are equivalent subcats for all other nationalities that took part in the conflict. As such, WP:SMALLCAT doesn't apply, and there's no valid reason for deletion. &#8209; Iridescent 18:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom, i.e. merge to Category:People of the Spanish Civil War. This is not a large scheme, it consists of only 33 countries and we might easily trim this further down to 20 or so. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:44, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Iridescent's argument. Dimadick (talk) 10:38, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - This refers to people from San Marino, a small independent enclave within Italy. Do we really need this?  Peterkingiron (talk) 21:44, 9 February 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Pejorative terms for trans people

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (Talk) 14:38, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Pejorative terms for trans people to Category:Transphobia
 * Propose merging Category:Pejorative terms for trans women to Category:Transphobia and Category:Pejorative terms for women
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, each currently contains only one article. Both articles are already in Category:LGBT-related slurs so I removed that as a merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:13, 8 February 2020 (UTC)


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Prefectural assemblies

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge The sole oppose !vote is from a now indefinitely blocked user. Timrollpickering (Talk) 14:40, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Aichi Prefectural Assembly to Category:Politics of Aichi Prefecture
 * Propose merging Category:Aomori Prefectural Assembly to Category:Politics of Aomori Prefecture
 * Propose merging Category:Chiba Prefectural Assembly to Category:Politics of Chiba Prefecture
 * Propose merging Category:Hyōgo Prefectural Assembly‎ to Category:Politics of Hyōgo Prefecture
 * Propose merging Category:Iwate Prefectural Assembly to Category:Politics of Iwate Prefecture
 * Propose merging Category:Kanagawa Prefectural Assembly to Category:Politics of Kanagawa Prefecture
 * Propose merging Category:Kyoto Prefectural Assembly to Category:Politics of Kyoto Prefecture
 * Propose merging Category:Ōita Prefectural Assembly to Category:Politics of Ōita Prefecture
 * Propose merging Category:Okinawa Prefectural Assembly‎ to Category:Politics of Okinawa
 * Propose merging Category:Saitama Prefectural Assembly to Category:Politics of Saitama Prefecture
 * Propose merging Category:Tochigi Prefectural Assembly to Category:Politics of Tochigi Prefecture
 * Propose merging Category:Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly‎ to Category:Government of Tokyo
 * Propose merging Category:Wakayama Prefectural Assembly to Category:Politics of Wakayama Prefecture
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer, every category has only one or two subcategories each. A second merge target is not needed, since all content is already in Category:Members of prefectural assemblies of Japan‎ and Category:Prefectural assembly elections in Japan‎. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:09, 8 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose. All of the categories have growth potential through the subcategories. Besides I'm planning to create categories for "member" and "election" and primary article for all 47 prefectures. ミラP 21:42, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course the subcategories should be kept. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:52, 15 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment, meanwhile Miraclepine who signs as ミラ has been blocked. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:52, 14 March 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Autonomous Turkic states

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 17:28, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting autonomous turkic states


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, there is no clear definition of an autonomous Turkic state. The entries in this category are territories in which between 10% and 80% of the population speaks a Turkic language and that language is one of the official languages. If the category is kept, its name should become something like Category:Autonomous territories with a Turkic official language. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:05, 8 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, non defining buidhe 20:31, 9 February 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Archbishops of Asia

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 20:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Archbishops of Asia to Category:Archbishops in Asia
 * Nominator's rationale While Asia was a province of Ancient Rome, none of the articles in this category pertains to that province. So none was an Archbishop of Asia, rather they were archbishops in Asia. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:34, 8 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Support at least as a temporary solution, per nom. I think we should not need this category at all because all archbishops can be categorized by country, or we would only need it as a container for all Asian countries, but the content of this category looks too messy to achieve either of that easily. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:57, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Support They are essentially the same thing. However the Anglican category needs attention - Papua New Guinea is not part of Asia; There is a primate of Southeast Asia and a Primate of Korea.  These both need their own subcategories, though at present they will be be over-small.  Peterkingiron (talk) 21:51, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the Papua New Guinea problem. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:35, 25 February 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Hellboy (film series)

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (Talk) 00:31, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting hellboy (film series)


 * Nominator's rationale: Too few entries to need a category. Category:Hellboy films covers both these articles fine. ★Trekker (talk) 21:24, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Procedural oppose, if not kept, this category and all film categories below should be merged somewhere. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:02, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Category:Films by character was created in July of 2019. It, and all the single character subcats - including this one - should be deleted as overcategorisation. - jc37 02:49, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete per nom. BD2412  T 19:03, 5 March 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Joker films

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (Talk) 00:31, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting joker films


 * Nominator's rationale: Too few entries about the character. Most of the films are simply works where the character appears. And even if we would consider them to "Joker films" they're too few to have their own category. ★Trekker (talk) 21:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Procedural oppose, if not kept, this category and all film categories below should be merged somewhere. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:02, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Category:Films by character was created in July of 2019. It, and all the single character subcats - including this one - should be deleted as overcategorisation. - jc37 02:49, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete Too broad to retain here. Otinflewer (talk) 07:24, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Animated Joker films
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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (Talk) 00:29, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting animated joker films


 * Nominator's rationale: Too few entries in this category is actually about this character as opossed to him being a supporting character. ★Trekker (talk) 21:12, 19 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Procedural oppose, if not kept, this category and all film categories below should be merged somewhere. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:02, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * There are (currently) no subcats. The articles are each in about 30-40 other categories so I don't see a need to "merge somewhere". DexDor(talk) 08:24, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete - Category:Films by character was created in July of 2019. It, and all the single character subcats - including this one - should be deleted as overcategorisation. - jc37 02:49, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete per jc37. DexDor(talk) 08:26, 29 February 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Businesspeople from Vancouver, Washington
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 * The result of the discussion was: Keep Timrollpickering (Talk) 00:28, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Businesspeople from Vancouver, Washington to Category:People from Vancouver, Washington and Category:Businesspeople from Washington (state)
 * Nominator's rationale: Overly specific. We don't need businesspeople from every moderately-sized American city  p  b  p  04:29, 20 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't it also be merged to Category:Businesspeople from Washington (state)? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'll make the change. p  b  p  14:47, 20 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_April_21 We should not merge categories if it will clutter articles with extra categories. ミラP 22:46, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Brackets relocated to reveal link. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:09, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Oppose. With 6 articles and potential for growth this looks ok (although perhaps premature). DexDor(talk) 06:59, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep -- This is above the threshold of 5 where small categories are commonly upmerged. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:09, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Support dual upmerge per nom, which is entirely reasonable. It may pass WP:SMALLCAT, yes, but it fails WP:TRIVIALCAT. This is an overly specific, narrow subdivision of people from a small town of Vancouver, Washington, whose only claim to fame is to being the home base of Dotster, Tonya Harding, and KnitPicks.com. --Doug Mehus T · C  02:59, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep - 6 articles is just above the accepted minimum. There is no obvious boundary (of population) making a city too small to have such a category, so that I think we should draw the boundary on the basis of a number of articles.  Peterkingiron (talk) 21:55, 9 February 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Anastasia (1997 film)
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Cultural depictions of Anastasia Nikolaevna of Russia Timrollpickering (Talk) 00:34, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting anastasia (1997 film)


 * Nominator's rationale: We don't have categories for individual films, much less lesser examples. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:12, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Creator's rationale: I created it because there were 8 relevant entries for the film and I didn't want them cluttering up the overall category about Anastasia.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 20:15, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
 * With the exception of the video game, the entries are already linked in the main article or the soundtrack one. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:08, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Linked, but not categorized. If this cat is removed, half the entries under Cultural depictions of Anastasia will be related to this film.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 23:58, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * If not kept, merge to Category:Cultural depictions of Anastasia Nikolaevna of Russia. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:34, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

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Category:Greek Vampire Creatures
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 * The result of the discussion was: disperse and delete as specified below. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:03, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting greek vampire creatures


 * Nominator's rationale: Not enough potential content to justify its own category. If it's kept, it needs renaming. M.Clay1 (talk) 06:35, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Merge to Category:Greek legendary creatures as the best alternative fit. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:01, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Distribute contents then delete -- The normal answer to a category like this would be to upmerge, but two of the artifcles relate to Ancient Greek mythology and the other two to Byzantine/Ottoman period folklore. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:01, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Good point, Category:Greek legendary creatures appears to be used for ancient Greek creatures only. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Peterkingiron, Marcocapelle - can you clarify exactly what (of the 4 articles) should be merged where - e.g. should they also be merged to Category:Vampires? DexDor(talk) 08:33, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The first two articles to Category:Greek legendary creatures; the third to Category:Greek folklore; and the fourth, Vrykolakas, both to Category:Greek folklore and Category:Vampires. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:45, 29 February 2020 (UTC)


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