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Category:Non-orphaned talk pages tagged with G8-exempt

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus to delete, so rename. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:39, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Non-orphaned talk pages tagged with G8-exempt to Category:Non-orphaned pages tagged with G8-exempt
 * Nominator's rationale: This category isn't exclusive to talk pages. Steel1943  (talk) 22:31, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * It is also on a few user subpages, but does that make sense at all? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete unless a process (workflow) is identified that uses this category (neither the category text nor what-links-here gives any clue as to the purpose of the category). The pages in the category are a mix of all sorts of different things (e.g. some are redirects). Maybe the template should be changed to only categorize talk pages, but who knows? DexDor(talk) 06:15, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a maintenance category to list pages tagged with G8-exempt when they aren't orphaned so not eligible for deletion anyway. The rename is fine IMO. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 13:22, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That's a description of what the category is, but there's still no indication of what (if any) purpose it has. DexDor(talk) 14:38, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It's to recognize when people are applying the G8-exempt tag unnecessarily (i.e when the main article was not deleted). Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 13:05, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That's a description of what the category is, but there's still no indication of what (if any) purpose it has. DexDor(talk) 06:28, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, I checked a number of pages in this category and can't make any sense of what these pages might have in common. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:40, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename. It's a maintenance cat for the G8-exempt template. If it's not all talk pages, then just rename it per nom.  bibliomaniac 1  5  05:49, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Venomous spiders

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 08:05, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting venomous spiders


 * Nominator's rationale: The category text says "Aggregate of articles pertaining to spiders whose venom is dangerous to humans.", but the category for Dangerous spiders was deleted at CFD. DexDor(talk) 20:40, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: The Spider bite and List of medically significant spider bites articles could be moved up to Category:Spiders and humans. DexDor(talk) 07:18, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * From the previous discussion I understand that nearly all spiders are venomous to some degree. If that is correct, the category is not meaningful. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:31, 14 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Bathurst Street, Hobart

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 08:06, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting bathurst street, hobart


 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only one article.  The head article Bathurst Street, Hobart is not in the category, but it's only stub.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 16:46, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Bjenks (talk) 04:17, 13 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Edinburgh Comedy Awards

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:47, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Edinburgh Comedy Awards to Category:Edinburgh Festival Fringe awards
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only two articles (Edinburgh Comedy Awards, List of Edinburgh Comedy Award winners) plus one redirect to the head article.  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:37, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:32, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Emet

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:43, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Emet to Category:Kütahya Province
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the head article Emet (a stub), and Emet mine.  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:10, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:30, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The district has about a dozen villages per the Turkish WP, so it could be expanded; it just hasn't been yet. Most districts in Turkey have categories (so do most second-level administrative units in other countries), which may be the exception to WP:SMALLCAT. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I was assuming this category is about the town, otherwise it ought to be named Category:Emet District. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * @Marcocapelle, & @Carlossuarez46: I have no objection to creating a Category:Emet District if and when we have five articles to populate it. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 20:35, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * the same applies to me, i.e. presumably it is meant as no objection. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:50, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * oops! typo fixed. Thanks, @Marcocapelle. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 19:55, 13 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Embriaco family

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 15:45, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting embriaco family


 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only 3 pages: the head article Embriaco family and two others.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:08, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Now up to 5, which is enough. For some reason, the founder Guglielmo Embriaco was not in the cat. Plenty of room for expansion. Johnbod (talk) 21:28, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Categories should be for grouping similar topics - not related topics as that just unnecessarily duplicates links in article text. Byblos Castle is suitably categorized by, for example, Category:Castles in Lebanon and doesn't need to be closely linked by categories to the Embriaco family. DexDor(talk) 05:52, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Eskimo bowline

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:07, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting eskimo bowline


 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the head article Eskimo bowline and the image File:Eskimo-bowline.jpg. The category appears to have been created solely for the image; I added the head article. However, I have now moved the image to Commons, so the category no longer serves any purpose.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 14:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:26, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Etiology
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Category:European Association of Archaeologists

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:07, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting:
 * Category:European Association of Archaeologists
 * Category:Members of the European Association of Archaeologists
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT, and per WP:NONDEF.
 * The Category:European Association of Archaeologists contains only the three items: head article European Association of Archaeologists, the biog of its founder, plus the members subcat. That's too small to be any use.
 * The subcat Category:Members of the European Association of Archaeologists contains only one page, but could be expanded to two if the founder was moved there.  But however many pages it contains, its a WP:NONDEF category.  This is not a learned society where membership is distinction awarded to high-achievers. Its website says EAA MEMBERSHIP is open to all professional archaeologists, students of archaeology and retired archaeologists, as well as interested public. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 12:33, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NONDEF. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:21, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:European Geoparks Network

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:50, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:European Geoparks Network to Category:Geoparks in Europe
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only two pages: the head article Geoparks in Europe and a list.  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 12:13, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:19, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Japhetic people

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename as nominated; revisit the wider tree if necessary Consistency has been invoked; the broader tree issues are best handled separately. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:47, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Japhetic people to Category:Japheth
 * Nominator's rationale: This category is for things related to the Japheth son of Noah. The other two sons also have categories and are simply named Category:Ham (son of Noah)‎ after Ham (son of Noah) (and not Hamites) and Category:Shem‎ after Shem (and not after Semitic people). This naming should be WP:CONSISTENT for all 3 brothers. Also, there is no article Japhetic people, only a redirect. Gonnym (talk) 10:16, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Agree with standardization for the three brothers but it should rather become Category:Descendants of Japheth, because hardly anything in this category is about Japheth himself. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:57, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll note that Category:Ham (son of Noah) has the pages Curse of Ham and Biblical Hittites, and Category:Japhetic people has the page Japhetic theory which don't quite fit the "Descendants" theme. --Gonnym (talk) 12:35, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The article Japheth contains a "see also" section with a link to Japhetic theory so that it is no problem to purge the latter article from the category. Likewise there is a link in the article Ham (son of Noah) to Curse of Ham. The article Biblical Hittites will be a valid entry in Category:Descendants of Ham (son of Noah). Marcocapelle (talk) 12:50, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Support The role of the sons of Noah in the Book of Genesis is that they are the ancestors of humanity, with detailed genealogies of nations given. Separating the article by "descendants" is redundant to that role. Dimadick (talk) 15:16, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That is a very narrow interpretation, bypassing the fact that the brothers were on the Ark and played an important role in Genesis 9. Yes, a genealogy are given in Genesis 10, but it is neither unique nor the first genealogy in Genesis. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:59, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The genealogy in question is the Generations of Noah/Table of Nations and it indeed unique. "The list of 70 names introduces for the first time a number of well known ethnonyms and toponyms important to biblical geography". Dimadick (talk) 15:36, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The category is not about geography but about descendants. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:52, 14 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Fang

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 15:13, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Fang to Category:Fang (ethnic group)
 * Nominator's rationale: disambiguation. The bare title Fang is about a type of tooth, but this category is for Fang people, an ethnic group in Africa (predominantly in Equatorial Guinea).  By convention, the title Category:Fang people is used for individual people of that group, so we need another disambiguator.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 09:57, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename to avoid ambiguity. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:58, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Ethiopian male cross-country runners

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merged as speedy SFB 00:36, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Ethiopian male cross-country runners to Category:Ethiopian male cross country runners
 * Nominator's rationale: For consistency with other categories it should be named without '-'. Simeon (talk) 09:56, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename per WP:C2C. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 10:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. The non-hyphenated category was created two months before the hyphenated one, so it looks like it was just a boo boo. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:38, 11 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Coconut Records (musician) albums

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 15:13, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Coconut Records (musician) albums to Category:Jason Schwartzman albums
 * Nominator's rationale: That's the name of the bio. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:37, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Precedent with Category:Donald Glover albums and Childish Gambino, and I'm sure others who use pseudonyms. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:40, 11 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Kickboxer films

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 15:13, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Kickboxer films to Category:Kickboxer (film series)
 * Nominator's rationale: Per main article. ★Trekker (talk) 09:24, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy per WP:C2D. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:15th-century Christian religious leaders

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:41, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting 15th-century christian religious leaders


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, this category (surprisingly) is not part of a series by century, but even if it were it would probably not make too much sense to start the series this early. The frequent appearance of Christian religious leaders beyond clergy and abbots takes off in the 16th century at earliest. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:50, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Sure, @Marcocapelle is right that Christian religious leaders outside the clergy and monasteries emerged in large quantities  only the 16th century, as the Reformation took hold.
 * But there were exceptions in previous centuries, so the category should exist to accommodate them. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 10:43, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Even in the 16th century there is not much beyond clergy, abbots and Category:Protestant Reformers. Besides the exceptions are still part of the x-th century Christians category so it is not like the information is completely lost. As we need to determine a subjective starting point for this tree anyway, why not start with a century that we can decently populate. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:43, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment religious leaders is ambiguous; are these limited to leaders of groups, leaders of thought, leaders of actions? One could well classify Joan of Arc in this category. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * In this category tree they are intended as leaders of religious groups. Joan of Arc does not belong, she (sort of) led an army, not a religious group. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 11 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, this category and hierarchy could be expanded with more bios of abbesses and other non-clergy Category:Women Christian religious leaders. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:42, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep -- because there is no other obvious way in which to categorise abbesses, who held a position equivalent to clergy, but were not ordained. Categorising them merely as nuns would not reflect their prominence.  We seem to have abbesses categorised by order, but not date.  The list under Thorn Abbey implies that there is at least one other abbess who belongs here.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:21, 19 July 2020 (UTC)


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Tamil-language television series by genre
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 08:23, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming:
 * Category:Tamil children's television series to Category:Tamil-language children's television series
 * Category:Tamil comedy television series to Category:Tamil-language comedy television series
 * Category:Tamil cooking television series to Category:Tamil-language cooking television series
 * Category:Tamil crime television series to Category:Tamil-language crime television series
 * Category:Tamil dance television shows to Category:Tamil-language dance television shows
 * Category:Tamil fantasy television series to Category:Tamil-language fantasy television series
 * Category:Tamil game shows to Category:Tamil-language game shows
 * Category:Tamil historical television series to Category:Tamil-language historical television series
 * Category:Tamil horror fiction television series to Category:Tamil-language horror fiction television series
 * Category:Tamil legal television series to Category:Tamil-language legal television series
 * Category:Tamil martial arts television series to Category:Tamil-language martial arts television series
 * Category:Tamil medical television series to Category:Tamil-language medical television series
 * Category:Tamil musical television series to Category:Tamil-language musical television series
 * Category:Tamil mystery television series to Category:Tamil-language mystery television series
 * Category:Tamil mythology soap operas to Category:Tamil-language mythology soap operas
 * Category:Tamil police television series to Category:Tamil-language police television series
 * Category:Tamil quiz shows to Category:Tamil-language quiz shows
 * Category:Tamil reality television series to Category:Tamil-language reality television series
 * Category:Tamil romance television series to Category:Tamil-language romance television series
 * Category:Tamil school television series to Category:Tamil-language school television series
 * Category:Tamil Singing talent shows to Category:Tamil-language singing talent shows
 * Category:Tamil sports television series to Category:Tamil-language sports television series
 * Category:Tamil suspense television series to Category:Tamil-language suspense television series
 * Category:Tamil talk shows to Category:Tamil-language talk shows
 * Category:Tamil teen television series to Category:Tamil-language teen television series
 * Category:Tamil thriller television series to Category:Tamil-language thriller television series
 * Category:Tamil travel shows to Category:Tamil-language travel shows
 * Nominator's rationale: rename per parent Category:Tamil-language television series by genre as well as everything else in the Tamil-language category. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:24, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Oculi (talk) 15:10, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename all per nominator. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 11:10, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * A discussion regarding Tamil television categories, including these, is taking place here. Please leave your comments. Gotitbro (talk) 11:19, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Pastors
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:44, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Pastors to Category:Christian religious leaders
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:21, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge - this is essentially a recreation of Category:Christian_pastors, deleted via  2007_February_12#Category:Christian_pastors. Oculi (talk) 09:33, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Only contains a single subcat, Category:Evangelical pastors, which can be added to Category:Christian religious leaders. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:48, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge, and it will probably be useful to also redirect it. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:43, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect per others. Johnbod (talk) 21:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge -- This is a redundant and unnecessary layer . Peterkingiron (talk) 17:23, 19 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Pages using infobox body of water without convert template
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Category:Places of Pokhara
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Category:Ward of Pokhara
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Category:Chowks of Pokhara
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Neighbourhoods in Pokhara.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:45, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting chowks of pokhara


 * Nominator's rationale: No clear definition of "Chowk" other than its use as part of a place name here. No parent categories. Created by enthusiastic but new editor. Does not seem to be a useful category. Pam  D  07:17, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename to Category:Neighbourhoods in Pokhara per actual content. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:37, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Chowk literally means a junction, but in this context it signifies neighbourhoods. Merge as above per WP:SHAREDNAME. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:58, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Films about hebephilia
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:08, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting films about hebephilia


 * Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT. There have been a lot of discussions about this category before. But the main reason why it should be deleted is that there appears to simply not be very many films that are about hebephilia. ★Trekker (talk) 04:53, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, also per WP:NONDEF as far as the two current entries in the category are concerned. They aren't about hebephelia, but rather about pedophilia and about child sexual abuse respectively. Accordingly the articles are already in Category:Documentary films about pedophilia and Category:Films about child sexual abuse respectively which should suffice. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Marcocapelle, the Are All Men Pedophiles? title is misleading. The film is more so about hebephilia, or rather sexual attraction to adolescents/teenagers (since hebephilia is accurately defined as a sexual preference for those in the earlier stages of pubescence). But, as I've argued times before, we don't need a hebephilia category to cover one or two films. As for Lolita? I've seen discussions about whether the man is a pedophile or not...based on the strict definition of pedophilia (especially people saying that Lolita was pubescent). This source used in the Reception section for the article to categorize it as a hebepilia film states "the film was very controversial, due to the hebephilia-related content." But eh. No need to ping me if you reply. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 22:40, 10 July 2020 (UTC) Tweaked post. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 22:51, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, it goes too far to say that they aren't about hebephilia at all, but it does take quite a bit of WP:SYNTH to say they are. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:49, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not SYNTH since I looked and sources for both do mention the term. But all the other points against this category stand. Crossroads -talk- 21:46, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Marcocapelle, see what Crossroads just stated above. And, above, I did cite one source from the Lolita film article. Regardless, to quote Crossroads, "all the other points against this category stand." Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 23:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I struck most of my earlier comments. Marcocapelle (talk) 01:27, 12 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per Marcocapelle. Crossroads -talk- 06:20, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per all the above.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 06:52, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per my comments on the films about pederasty below. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:34, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per my previous arguments about this category (seen on the talk page and in previous deletion discussions about it). But per the previous discussions, including the RfC that took place there, I feel that its talk page should be tagged with Template:G8-exempt (see WP:G8). That talk page should be preserved for future reference. For documentation of what was discussed with regard to this category and in case the category is created again. If that talk page is deleted, I will request that it is undeleted and tagged with Template:G8-exempt. But I am asking the administrator who deletes this category to do that so that I don't have to. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 22:21, 10 July 2020 (UTC) Tweaked post. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 22:24, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed with you on the G8-exempt matter. Crossroads -talk- 17:08, 11 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Pederastic poetry
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 08:07, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting pederastic poetry


 * Nominator's rationale: This category is anarchronisticly added to ("pederasty" is an exclusivly Greco-Roman concept that was not widely used after) articles of random modern poets. This is a SMALLCAT without that agenda pushing nonsense. ★Trekker (talk) 04:30, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. Although Haiduc did not create this category, he clearly made use of it, and it was a part of his system of pederasty categories. was banned by ArbCom in 2010 for reasons that are obvious based on the ANI discussion about him. The content he wrote was dishonest propaganda exaggerating the prevalence and social standing of practices that in today's world non-WP:Fringe sources call child sexual abuse, as explained here. Part of this effort involved purposely conflating relationships between grown males that really are part of gay history together with abusive relationships between a grown man and a young boy, and calling it all "pederasty". There is no need for this category; the articles in it can be in more appropriate categories based on what is actually discussed in each one. Crossroads -talk- 05:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per above but then the article Sotades should be moved to Category:Pederastic literature. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I think that category likely should be deleted for the same reason as the others we've been discussing. Sotades is already in Category:Pederasty in ancient Greece which should suffice. Crossroads -talk- 06:24, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:31, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete A poetry category should focuse on individual poems, not poets. Dimadick (talk) 07:59, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Films about pederasty
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 08:08, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting films about pederasty


 * Nominator's rationale: This category was originally created by a banned pedophile and pro-pedophilia advocate on Wikipedia, once he was banned this category was deleted, but was then recreated by another user (who tried to make Commons accept child pornography images). The problem with this category is the same as most other "pederasty" categories, "pederasty" is a word that almost exclusivly refers to a Greco-Roman concept and today this is called child sexual abuse by non-fringe sources. Its also worth mentioning that almost none whatsoever of these articles even mention the word "pederasty". ★Trekker (talk) 04:24, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom., apparently the original creator, was banned by ArbCom in 2010 for reasons that are obvious based on the ANI discussion about him. The re-creator is globally banned. Haiduc's overuse of "pederasty" was dishonest propaganda exaggerating the prevalence and social standing of practices that in today's world non-WP:Fringe sources call child sexual abuse, as explained here. "Pederasty" normalization involves purposely conflating relationships between grown males that really are part of gay history together with abusive relationships between a grown man and a young boy, and calling it all "pederasty". This category is a legacy of that effort, and many of the articles in it do not even mention the term pederasty. There is no need for this category; the articles in it can be in more appropriate categories based on what is actually discussed in each one. Crossroads -talk- 05:35, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, I checked a sample of articles and none of them was about ancient Greek pederasty. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:23, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete another films "about" something; how, objectively do we define how much about the subject something must be to be categorized and what reliable sources tell us it's at least that much. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:33, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:American textile industry executives
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 08:17, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:American textile industry executives to Category:American textile industry businesspeople
 * Nominator's rationale: New name would a) allow for more people to be placed in the category, and b) be consistent with other countries' categories that take the form "______ textile industry businesspeople" p  b  p  03:53, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy per WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes please.  Rathfelder (talk) 15:07, 12 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:FemTechNet
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 15:12, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:FemTechNet to Category:Wikipedia FemTechNet
 * Nominator's rationale: This is an administration category for Meetup/FemTechNet. Its name should make clear that is not a content category for the article FemTechNet.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 00:31, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Savernake, New South Wales
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:47, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Savernake, New South Wales to Category:Federation Council, New South Wales
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the head article Savernake, New South Wales and one other. This place had a population in 2016 of only 94 people, so there is little chance of expanding the category.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 00:21, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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