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Category:Delhi Residential Area

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  00:51, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Delhi Residential Area to Category:Neighbourhoods in Delhi
 * Nominator's rationale: unless 'residential area' is something specific to India. There are a few google hits under 'Residential Neighbourhoods' related to India. Fuddle (talk) 22:44, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. See also similar nomination on July 6. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:37, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Area is used synonymously with neighbourhood in India and there is no clear cut classification for residential either. Hence its better to stick to a single category. -- Ab207 (talk) 06:12, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cerrado (ecoregion)

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 18:36, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Cerrado (ecoregion) to Category:Cerrado
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary disambiguation. Tom Radulovich (talk) 18:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Besides the two subcategories should be nominated for merger, since we usually do not have separate flora and fauna categories for relatively small ecoregions. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:14, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. I am leaning to oppose, because this search for articles whose title includes "Cerrado" does throw up some other meanings, including Cerrado State Park, Cerrado climbing mouse, Coliseo Cerrado and Hairy-eared cerrado mouse.
 * Rename per nom. I'm not convinced that the disambig is necessary even with the articles in the comment. The state park and the mice are clearly named for the ecoregion, and if necessary categories involving those could be disambiguated. The stadium article is a stub and there's no indication that it has more prominent visibility compared with the ecoregion.  bibliomaniac 1  5  00:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Buildings and structures in Midvale, Utah

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  22:14, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Midvale, Utah to Category:Buildings and structures in Salt Lake County, Utah / Midvale, Utah
 * Nominator's rationale: Small category (1 article and it's not about a notable building) that is unlikely to grow. User:Namiba 18:17, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Disagree, see the related entry comment for Millcreek. Also, when did buildings on the National Register of Historic Places become "not notable"? (It seems like a push to discourage adding articles for these categories. Some of the applicable articles already exist, but have not been properly categorized yet.) An Errant Knight (talk) 18:41, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Then please add these articles to the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:50, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom, still only one article now, but without objection to recreation of the category when it can be populated by more than a handful of articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Buildings and structures in Millcreek, Utah

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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Millcreek, Utah to Category:Buildings and structures in Salt Lake County, Utah / Category:Millcreek, Utah
 * Nominator's rationale: Small category ( 1 3 articles) that is unlikely to grow. User:Namiba 17:56, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Disagree, while there are not many entries just yet, Millcreek is the 7th largest city in Salt Lake County (greater population than Draper, Murray, Cottonwood Heights, and Midvale). All of these cities have their own category, and all will have increasing numbers of articles. (It seems like a push to discourage adding articles for these categories. Some of the applicable articles already exist, but have not been properly categorized yet.) An Errant Knight (talk) 18:40, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Then please add these articles to the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:49, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Just added two . . . An Errant Knight (talk) 22:21, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You're right. There is potential for growth given the number of NRHP listings. I withdraw my nomination.--User:Namiba 01:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Buildings and structures in Clearfield, Utah

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  00:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Clearfield, Utah to Category:Buildings and structures in Davis County, Utah / Category:Clearfield, Utah
 * Nominator's rationale: Small category ( 1 2 articles) that is unlikely to significantly grow. User:Namiba 17:54, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Disagree, while there are not many entries just yet, Clearfield is the 2nd largest city in Davis County (greater population than Farmington). That city has its own category, and both will have increasing numbers of articles. (It seems like a push to discourage adding articles for these categories. Some of the applicable articles already exist, but have not been properly categorized yet.) An Errant Knight (talk) 18:41, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Then please add these articles to the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:50, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Just added one . . . An Errant Knight (talk) 22:21, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom, still only three articles now, but without objection to recreation of the category when it can be populated by more than a handful of articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:34, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


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Catalan cinema

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge using option A.  bibliomaniac  1  5  00:45, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging either:
 * OPTION A: Category:Catalan cinema to Category:Cinema of Catalonia‎
 * OPTION B: Category:Cinema of Catalonia‎ to Category:Catalan cinema
 * Nominator's rationale: I can't see any difference of scope between the two categories, so merge one way or the other.  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 14:39, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Option A - per convention in Category:Cinema by country. Oculi (talk) 14:50, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Option A per Oculi and less ambiguous ("Catalan" also means Catalan-language). Marcocapelle (talk) 16:58, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Option A per Oculi and Marcocapelle; but strictly, Category:Catalan-language films doesn't then belong because some of those films originate outside of Catalonia in some other of the Catalan Countries. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:01, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Catalyst support
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Category:Celle State Stud

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  23:56, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting celle state stud


 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only 2 pages: the eponymous Celle State Stud and the horse Wolkentanz.  Both are adequately categorised already, so no need to merge.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 14:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Before nominating, I checked the parent Category:Horse farms in Germany, and its only subcat is Category:Celle State Stud. I scanned the category tree for other eponymous categories for stud farms, and found none. I did a search for categories with "stud" in their title, and found no more stud farms. I don't see any sign of an eponymous category for the Marbach stud. Have I missed something? -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 14:50, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * comment: I think it can be upmerged to the Horse farms in Germany cat, but I’ll wait to see what others say. If other German state stud farms, such as the Marbach stud have their own categories with many entries and this is part of an overall categorization scheme, that might be a factor? Montanabw (talk) 14:33, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Reply. What's that all about?
 * , yes, Celle and Marbach are both in Category:Horse farms in Germany. Montanabw (talk) 21:24, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: I don't see the horse placed well in a German horse farms category, - it belongs to the particular one, but isn't a horse farm. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * @Gerda Arendt: I agree entirely. That's one of the reasons why I have proposed deleting the category rather than upmergeing it. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:18, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:20, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:List of Education Boards in Pakistan

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.  bibliomaniac  1  5  23:57, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:List of Education Boards in Pakistan to Category:Education boards in Pakistan
 * Nominator's rationale: The articles aren't lists. Looking for a pattern, there is Category:Education Board in Bangladesh (which should also be renamed?) Fuddle (talk) 14:01, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Edit: I lowercased 'Boards', unless there's something significant about that word. Fuddle (talk) 14:03, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:22, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Charles Johnson Maynard

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  00:46, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting charles johnson maynard


 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous article Charles Johnson Maynard, and one image.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 12:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:55, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Chashi

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 * The result of the discussion was: No consensus Timrollpickering (talk) 15:52, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting chashi


 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only 2 pages: the eponymous article Chashi, and Yukuepira Chashi. The head article does not link to any more pages which belong in this category.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 12:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:12, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, despite one more article has been added to the category, WP:SMALLCAT still applies. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * There are now the seemingly requisite 5 pages in the category, contrary to WP:SMALLCAT, which is about potential; per WP:SMALLCAT, there's plenty of potential, with over 500 chashi known, including a number of other notable examples designated as Historic Sites at a national level. The category is a useful navigation tool, also across other language wikipedias. Also it should be noted that Ainu chashi are rather different in form and function from the castles of the Wajin, so the one category of castles does not suffice. My preference is creation rather than metadeletionchat, but anyway, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 19:35, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I have withdrawn my earlier vote and comment after the above contribution. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:55, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * @Maculosae tegmine lyncis, a category is a useful navigation tool only if it is part of an established series (e.g. the subcats of Category:Years in Japan), or if it contains a decent set of articles. There may be many more similar items known to exist; but if en.wp doesn't contains articles on them, the category serves no purpose, because it cannot be populated with articles which don't exist. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 11:12, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per recent additions to the article and category.  bibliomaniac 1  5  02:24, 5 August 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Clickteam (game engines)

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to `Clickteam (game engine) games` (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 03:13, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Clickteam (game engines) to Category:Clickteam game engine games
 * Nominator's rationale: The category contains games made using game engines developed by Clickteam, but the present category name makes it sound as though it contains the actual engines. IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 08:58, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I created this category. I agree that it need a new name, english is not my native language. FYI, Clickteam made 3 or 4 different games engines. Dadu (talk) 17:20, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename to Category:Clickteam (game engine) games. Looking at the parent cat, it looks like using the parentheses seems to be the convention, to help denote that it's a disambiguator.  bibliomaniac 1  5  00:48, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Clickteam (game engine) games per Bibliomaniac. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:24, 13 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Failed assassination attempts

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus.  bibliomaniac  1  5  22:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Failed assassination attempts to Category:Assassination attempts (over redirect)
 * Nominator's rationale: The current name is somewhat redundant. If it was only an attempt, it was by its very nature a failed attempt. Attempts in the law are inchoate offences which by their very nature are failed. See, for comparison, a subcategory, category:Attempted assassinations of Presidents of the United States‎. No need to say "failed attempted assassinations of the POTUS." Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:18, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment, the nomination is correct as far as legal terminology is concerned. But in common language we may distinguish failed attempts versus succesful attempts. In other words, if renamed, some day an editor may move Category:Assassinations to become a subcategory of Category:Assassination attempts. It is not a reason to oppose, just a possibility to be aware of. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:54, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Marcocapelle. The shared defining attribute of the pages in this category is that they are about failed attempts.  Successful attempts belong in Category:Assassinations.  --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 12:19, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This was discussed before, without much participation: Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_July_25. I am still ambivalent about how many categories we have: if we revert as per nom, we'd have to have Category:Assassinations as a subcat. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:15, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * @Carlossuarez46, what we really need is Category:Assassination attempts with two subcats: Category:Failed assassination attempts and Category:Assassinations. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 11:25, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * that would work too. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:03, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


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