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Category:France 24

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  22:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting france 24


 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the head article France 24 plus one biography.  Both articles are adequately-categorised, so no need to merge.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 23:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:21, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Fort de Kock

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  22:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fort de kock


 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous article Fort de Kock and an image which I have already copied to Comons.  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 23:13, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete in the spirit of WP:C2F. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:22, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


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Shire of Hinchinbrook smallcats

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Shire of Hinchinbrook. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:34, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging:
 * Category:Forrest Beach, Queensland to Category:Shire of Hinchinbrook
 * Category:Halifax, Queensland to Category:Shire of Hinchinbrook
 * Category:Trebonne to Category:Shire of Hinchinbrook
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Each  of these categories for small places in the Shire of Hinchinbrook, New South Wales are are tiny, with little chance of expansion.  They all currently contain 2 pages: the head article plus one others.  I haven't found any other articles to expand the categories.
 * As with many New South Wales locations, category creation in Queensland seems to have been a bit indiscriminate. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 23:07, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:24, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Foreign Military Studies Office

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge without México Indígena.  bibliomaniac  1  5  22:10, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Foreign Military Studies Office to Category:Research installations of the United States Army
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. contains only the eponymous Foreign Military Studies Office plus one other page.  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 23:01, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per WP:SMALLCAT but México Indígena should not be included in the merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:28, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree about excluding México Indígena. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 05:38, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:People from Nandurbar

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  22:12, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Nandurbar to Category:People from Nandurbar district
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. This contains only 3 articles, and the target Category:People from Nandurbar district contains only 6 pages, so it is unhelpful to split out the city.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 22:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Related discussion: WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 June 29. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 22:33, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:30, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Houses in Smithfield, North Carolina

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:40, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Houses in Smithfield, North Carolina to Category:Buildings and structures in Smithfield, North Carolina
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge to . Small town of ~10,000 residents. Only 2 articles in the category. Unlikely to significantly grow in the near future. User:Namiba 20:37, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * keep The category now contains 4 articles.  Population size is not relevant. Hmains (talk) 01:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Population size is relevant because it is a small town and is thus not likely to grow. That's one of the primary conditions of WP:SMALLCAT.--User:Namiba 14:15, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Dual merge, the category contains two articles about historic districts that do not belong here, hence WP:SMALLCAT still applies. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:12, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * categories attached to NRHP historic district articles include what is in the district; houses are in the districts so the articles are in the county houses category and the city houses category as well as the state NRHP houses category Hmains (talk) 21:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I disagree, we should not add articles about a broader topic to categories with a narrower topic. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:28, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You miss my point, which was that NRHP Historic Districts containing houses have been placed into house categories as well historic district categories. You were removing districts from house categories saying they don't belong there. I am stating my observation of the current WP practice. Hmains (talk) 06:04, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I did not miss a point, we just disagree. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:17, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Buildings and structures in Charles Town, West Virginia

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 * The result of the discussion was: nomination withdrawn.  bibliomaniac  1  5  22:24, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging buildings and structures in charles town, west virginia to.
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge to . Town of ~5,000 residents with 3 buildings in category. It is unlikely to grow significantly. User:Namiba 19:28, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * this is a very confusing nomination, you are proposing deletion and dual merge to a single target. Please use the standard formatting, how difficult can that be? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:34, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I will make sure never to have a typo again, thank you for the correction, master.--User:Namiba 20:35, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Save your sarcasm, please. Why do you not add both merge targets in the headline like everybody else? Marcocapelle (talk) 00:33, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * keep now has 4 articles and all such articles are parts of series; population size is not relevant Hmains (talk) 01:42, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Dual merge, the category contains two articles about historic districts that do not belong here, hence WP:SMALLCAT still applies. Marcocapelle (talk)
 * After re-examining the category, I have decided to withdraw my nomination.--User:Namiba 12:29, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Buildings and structures in Centralia, Missouri

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge with no prejudice toward recreation if it can actually break the WP:SMALLCAT barrier.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:40, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Centralia, Missouri to Category:Centralia, Missouri
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge to . Town of ~4,000 residents with 2 buildings in category. It is unlikely to grow significantly. User:Namiba 19:24, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep I was easily able to add two articles to the category, and I've not yet done an exhaustive search. Besides that, Centralia has some significant history with railroads, Jesse James, and is infamous for Centralia Massacre in the civil war; aka the town bats a little above it's 4,000 resident weight mentioned above. I can think of a couple other Centralia historical building articles I'd like to create as the two that were originally alone in the category were NRHP creations of mine, although I didn't create the category under consideration. Grey Wanderer (talk) 22:06, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I removed the two articles you added because they were about institutions which occupied buildings, not the buildings themselves. One of them gave no description of the building whatsoever. WP:SMALLCAT applies because, as small town, it is unlikely to ever have more than a few notable buildings.--User:Namiba 14:16, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Dual merge per WP:SMALLCAT without objection to recreation when the category can be populated by more than a handful of articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Invertebrates of Belize

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Invertebrates of Central America. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:35, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Invertebrates of Belize to Category:Invertebrates of Central America
 * Propose merging Category:Invertebrates of Costa Rica to Category:Invertebrates of Central America
 * Propose merging Category:Invertebrates of El Salvador to Category:Invertebrates of Central America
 * Propose merging Category:Invertebrates of Guatemala to Category:Invertebrates of Central America
 * Propose merging Category:Invertebrates of Honduras to Category:Invertebrates of Central America
 * Propose merging Category:Invertebrates of Nicaragua to Category:Invertebrates of Central America
 * Propose merging Category:Invertebrates of Panama to Category:Invertebrates of Central America


 * Nominator's rationale: That a species (e.g. Marisa cornuarietis or Battus ingenuus) is found in one of these countries is often a non-defining characteristic. Example previous CFDs. DexDor(talk) 18:31, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:36, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Children of Servius Tullius

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  22:19, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting children of servius tullius


 * Nominator's rationale: Servius Tullius only had two children. No need for this category. The creator of this category has had a bad habit of creating dozens of similar perpetual Smallcats for a while now. ★Trekker (talk) 18:21, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Were else would we place the relevant article? Dimadick (talk) 18:23, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * At Category:Daughters of Roman kings and Category:Servius Tullius. Please stop Dimadick, you seem to willfully want to ignore clear Wikipedia standards when it comes to Categories. I'm very much getting tired of this, its honestly becoming an issue that you keep on insisting we should keep stuff like this.★Trekker (talk) 18:34, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 'Comment And its not becoming an issue that it difficult to locate articles on clearly connected historical and mythological figures. How does deletion aid navigation? Dimadick (talk) 18:37, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Two sinlge siblings can be linked trought the content of their articles. And if navigation if your excuse then what do you have to say for your single child categories you created like Category:Children of Nero?★Trekker (talk) 18:40, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Would you prefer a catch all Category:Nero, which would not link to the children category at all? Dimadick (talk) 18:42, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Claudia Augusta is already in Category:Daughters of Roman emperors therefore she is already in that category-tree. So yes of course I'd prefer a more broad category when the alternative is a useless single child category. You don't seem to understand how categories are supposed to be used.★Trekker (talk) 18:47, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Which was created later that year. Dimadick (talk) 18:49, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Doesn't excuse a single child category. A single child category was never justifiable.★Trekker (talk) 18:59, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as there's only one article in the category and that's well linked and categorized without this category. DexDor(talk) 18:53, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:40, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. DrKay (talk) 21:04, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't see the utility of a category for two persons, with no potential for expansion—particularly as one of the two entries is only a redirect. Two siblings, one of whom can be summed up in one line, while the other is known entirely from a single episode in history, and never mentioned again.  P Aculeius (talk) 13:03, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 09:27, 14 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Modality

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Linguistic modality and purge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fayenatic london (talk • contribs)
 * Propose renaming Category:Modality to Category:?????
 * Nominator's rationale: Disambiguation. In article-space, modality is a disambiguation page. This is not my territory, so I am not sure which of the meanings of modality is intended here ... but it doesn't seem to be all of them.  --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 05:46, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * WikiProject Philosophy has been notified. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 05:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The category seems to contain a mix of articles related to Modal logic and Linguistic modality but it might also be deleted per WP:NONDEF. Note that Category:Modal logic already exists and is well-populated. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:15, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Just bolding my earlier comment: either delete or rename and purge to Category:Linguistic modality. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:36, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename and purge to Category:Linguistic modality. Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 09:31, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename and purge to Category:Linguistic modality (or just delete). Johnbod (talk) 21:17, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:GMC Denali

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:38, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting gmc denali


 * Nominator's rationale: Not really needed when all but two of the pages within are redirects. GMC Denali already provides a list of Denali-trim models. Vossanova o&lt; 13:59, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per nominator. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 22:27, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to an upmerge or another merge target? The nominator actually proposed deletion.  bibliomaniac 1  5  22:09, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I meant merge to the parent Category:GMC vehicles. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 22:25, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe a merge is unnecessary as the redirect pages in the category don't need to go in any category (they are not unique models), and GMC Denali and GMC Denali XT already have appropriate categories. --Vossanova o&lt; 22:17, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per further explanation of nominator. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:43, 14 August 2020 (UTC)


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Category:The Wizard of Oz (1939 film) cast members

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  22:20, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting the wizard of oz (1939 film) cast members


 * Nominator's rationale: Textbook case of WP:PERFCAT.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 08:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator. Classic WP:PERFCAT. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 08:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete Per WP:PERFCAT.★Trekker (talk) 14:15, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:PERFCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:39, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete We categorize films by director, screenwriter, film composer, and producer. Not actors by which film they appeared in. Dimadick (talk) 18:26, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as the nom. says, a textbook case. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Golden Joystick Awards

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  22:20, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting golden joystick awards


 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the head article Golden Joystick Awards and one other.  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 08:03, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:41, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 09:36, 14 July 2020 (UTC)


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Musicians by band by ethnicity
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus.  bibliomaniac  1  5  22:07, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Musicians by South Korean band to Category:Musicians by band
 * Propose merging Category:Musicians by Japanese band to Category:Musicians by band
 * Nominator's rationale: There is no need to make a scheme for just two East Asian ethnicities nor is there any need to diffuse the musicians by band tree. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:55, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

However, if you were actually looking to explore categories for members of say Danish bands, then it would be much more useful to have Category:Musicians by Danish band than to try to find the Danes in the midst of 3,405 categories. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 08:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC) And if you're not sure how Mötley Crüe is spelt, use search. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 08:21, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose. @User:Koavf/Justin: Category:Musicians by band currently contains 3,405 subcats. Splitting it up by the nationality of the band would be a big help to navigation. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 07:58, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Category:Albums by artist has 23,000+. It's fine to navigate by the name of an artist. I don't even know the ethnicity of every band but if I want to find its members, I can now. How would it help me to navigate if now I have to know that Scorpions are German and if I have to remember if some metal bands are Norwegian or Swedish? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:11, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * @Koavf: if you know the name of the band, you don't need to use the category to find it.
 * , INS Sometimes, you don't know exactly how something is spelled, e.g. Mötley Crüe: sorting by artist name makes this easier to find and is a perfectly sensible and intelligible way to organize this information. Then a category scheme like Category:Musicians by band ethnicity could be created, just like how there's Category:Albums by artist nationality. Still no need to empty out this scheme. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:18, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This is not about ethnicity; it's about nationality.
 * Support - agree with nom. As no-one has seen fit to populate more than 2 subcats in 20 years or so there can be little enthusiasm for a nationality tree. (Bands don't necessarily have a nationality anyway.) Oculi (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * @Oculi, some bands are multi-national, but most do have a nationality. See the 165 by-nationality subcats of Category:Musical groups by nationality. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 11:03, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Justin ( koavf ) seems to want to subvert the basic principles of categorisation. Rathfelder (talk) 08:42, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * What? What are you talking about? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:45, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , ? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:59, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Pretty much all other categories are broken down by geography. Why not these?  Categories are not here to created lists of thousands. Rathfelder (talk) 19:06, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * See above: Category:Albums by artist is just a different scheme than Category:Albums by artist nationality (not geography). There's nothing wrong with using alphabetical order to list things and this doesn't "subvert the basic principles of categorization". What principles? Why do you think I'm trying to ruin categorization on a conceptual level? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:05, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Gold dinar
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:59, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Gold dinar to Category:Gold coins and Category:Dinar
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the head article Gold dinar and one image.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 07:48, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge in the spirit of WP:C2F. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:43, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


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Banijay/Endemol Shine
Relisted, see Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 17%23Banijay/Endemol Shine

Category:Gorky Railway
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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator. Thanks to @Ymblanter, who is going to start populating it. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 07:43, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting gorky railway


 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Gorky Railway plus  Gorkovsky suburban railway line, Moscow.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 07:18, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Potentially, it should contain several hundreds railway stations which are all notable, but I am obviously not going to create them during the nomination. As a goodwill gesture, I can create now one or two.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Goodyear family
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or However, the head article Goodyear family is about a different family, from Buffalo, New York, who were prominent in the lumber and railway businesses. If kept, this category should be renamed to avoid ambiguity ... but it contains only three articles, so it might be better to delete it per WP:SMALLCAT. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 07:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  22:22, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose either
 * renaming Category:Goodyear family to Category:Goodyear family (rubber)
 * deleting Category:Goodyear family
 * Nominator's rationale: This category is for the family of Charles Goodyear, the inventor of rubber vulcanisation. The Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company is named after him.


 * Delete by lack of an article about the family and per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:46, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per above and because it puts the article about Charles Daniels (swimmer) in Category:Tire industry people. DexDor(talk) 19:03, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * If that were the only issue, it could be solved with reparenting the category.RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Related discussion. See centralised discussion on family categories at WT:CATP. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:23, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete for Now (as creator) I normally don't create categories with <5 articles so not sure if there used to be other content or I was having an off day. No objection to recreating (under the revised name) if we ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Goodwood Festival of Speed
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Note that WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 June 23 is discussing the proposed renaming of Category:Goodwood. If it is closed as rename, then the merge target here will need to be revised accordingly. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:39, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Goodwood Festival of Speed to Category:Goodwood estate
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only two pages: the head article Goodwood Festival of Speed, and 2015 Goodwood Festival of Speed.


 * Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:47, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: Note that Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_June_23 has been closed renaming Category:Goodwood to Category:Goodwood estate.  bibliomaniac 1  5  02:46, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I have adjusted the nomination accordingly. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


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Whitsunday Region smallcats
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Whitsunday Region. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging:
 * 2-page categories
 * Category:Flametree, Queensland to Category:Whitsunday Region
 * Category:Mount Wyatt, Queensland to Category:Whitsunday Region
 * Category:Springlands, Queensland to Category:Whitsunday Region
 * 3-page categories
 * Category:Mount Coolon, Queensland to Category:Whitsunday Region
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Each of these categories for small places in the Whitsunday Region in Queensland are tiny, with little chance of expansion.  They all currently contain 2 or 3 pages: the head article plus one or two others.  I haven't found any other articles to expand the categories.
 * As with many New South Wales locations, category creation for Queensland locations seems to have been a bit indiscriminate. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 06:06, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:48, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Aboriginal Shire of Kowanyama
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Shire of Winton smallcats
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Shire of Winton. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:01, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging:
 * Category:Middleton, Queensland‎ to Category:Shire of Winton
 * Category:Winton, Queensland‎ to Category:Shire of Winton
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. These categories for small places in the Shire of Winton in Queensland are tiny, with little chance of expansion.  They currently contain 2 or 3 pages: the head article plus one or two others.  I haven't found any other articles to expand the categories.
 * The Shire of Winton is a sparsely-populated place, with a 2018 population of only 1,157 people in 20,000 square miles (the whole of the island of Ireland is 32,000 sq miles). In total, Category:Shire of Winton+subcats contains only 12 articles. Splitting that small set into sub-categories by locality impedes navigation.
 * As with many New South Wales locations, category creation for Queensland locations seems to have been a bit indiscriminate. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 05:40, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:London words
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WikiProject Lowell, Massachusetts categories
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 * The result of the discussion was: WP:SOFTDELETE as below. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:27, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting:
 * lowell, massachusetts articles needing attention
 * lowell, massachusetts articles with to-do lists
 * unreferenced lowell, massachusetts articles
 * lowell, massachusetts articles needing infoboxes
 * Nominator's rationales:
 * Category of empty maintenance categories for an inactive Wikiproject. Category:Massachusetts articles needing attention is sufficient for any future needs. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:55, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Empty category for inactive Wikiproject. Category:Massachusetts articles with to-do lists is sufficient for any future needs. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:52, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * : Empty category for an inactive Wikiproject. Category:Unreferenced Massachusetts articles is sufficient for any future needs. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:49, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * : Empty category for an inactive Wikiproject. Category:Massachusetts articles needing infoboxes is sufficient for any future needs. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:05, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Note. I have merged four separate nominations by @Pi.1415926535. They all raise the same issue for the same project, so we don't need 4 separate discussions. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 05:47, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:WikiProject University of Massachusetts articles needing attention
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 * The result of the discussion was: WP:SOFTDELETE as below. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:25, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikiproject university of massachusetts articles needing attention


 * Nominator's rationale: Empty category for an inactive Wikiproject. Category:Massachusetts articles needing attention is sufficient for any future needs. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


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Category:University of Massachusetts articles missing geocoordinate data
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete as WP:SOFTDELETE, i.e. these categories may be recreated if pages appear in them again. Category:WikiProject Lowell, Massachusetts articles contains 272 pages, but none are tagged as lacking coords. Presumably any talk page tagged with WP US plus e.g. Lowell=yes and missing coords would repopulate the Lowell category rather than the parent Category:Massachusetts articles missing geocoordinate data as suggested below. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:18, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting:
 * lowell, massachusetts articles missing geocoordinate data
 * university of massachusetts articles missing geocoordinate data
 * category


 * Nominator's rationale: Empty categories for inactive Wikiprojects. Category:Massachusetts articles missing geocoordinate data is sufficient for any future needs. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:03, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 09:43, 14 July 2020 (UTC)


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