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Category:Cox Television
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Video games scored by XXXX

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:16, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Category:Video games scored by Fumiaki Imaoka
 * Category:Video games scored by Hideki Takahagi
 * Category:Video games scored by Hidetoshi Fukumori
 * Category:Video games scored by Hiroshige Tonomura
 * Category:Video games scored by Hiroyuki Misawa
 * Category:Video games scored by Kazuko Umino
 * Category:Video games scored by Kazuyuki Ōnui
 * Category:Video games scored by Koji Sakurai
 * Category:Video games scored by Munehiro Nakanishi
 * Category:Video games scored by Naoto Yagishita
 * Category:Video games scored by Saori Kunikyo
 * Category:Video games scored by Sayoko Ueda
 * Category:Video games scored by Shohei Tsuchiya
 * Category:Video games scored by Shuichiro Nakazawa
 * Category:Video games scored by Yu Shimoda
 * Category:Video games scored by Fabrice Gillet
 * Category:Video games scored by Katsuhisa Ishikawa
 * Category:Video games scored by Tomoko Imoto
 * Category:Video games scored by Yasuhiro Naka
 * Category:Video games scored by Yasumasa Yamada
 * Category:Video games scored by Akihiro Uchida
 * Category:Video games scored by Hideki Asanaka
 * Category:Video games scored by Hideyuki Ashizawa
 * Category:Video games scored by Hiroshi Yamazoe
 * Category:Video games scored by Hirotomi Imoto
 * Category:Video games scored by Kazuhiro Nishida
 * Category:Video games scored by Kyoko Naka
 * Category:Video games scored by Maiko Iuchi
 * Category:Video games scored by Masato Horiuchi
 * Category:Video games scored by Toshikazu Tanaka
 * Category:Video games scored by Toshio Shimizu
 * Category:Video games scored by Yasuo Yamate
 * Category:Video games scored by Yoko Osaka
 * Category:Video games scored by Yoshihiko Kitamura
 * Category:Video games scored by Yukifumi Makino
 * I'm proposing to delete all of these. None of these composers establish enough notability to warrant their own article, let alone an entire category dedicated to them. These are not useful or helpful for the average reader and most of these don't have a wide scope - some of these categories have like one or two articles listed. Namcokid  47  (Contribs) 20:45, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * To avoid any confusion, I wanna make it clear that I am proposing these categories specifically be deleted. I am not proposing to eliminate every "video games composed by x" category, as some of these composers are actually notable and warrant such a category. I am only proposing that the categories listed here be deleted, as none of these composers establish any notability. Thanks. Namcokid  47  (Contribs) 20:50, 2 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment I am making sure these are cases where the listed composer is not notable, to which I'd agree. The general idea of a "Video games scored by X" where X is a notable person should be acceptable otherwise. --M asem (t) 21:50, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Specifically for non-notable composers, this is not a defining trait. Axem Titanium (talk) 00:26, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete iff the composer has no article and there are fewer than five articles in the category. Some games have scores by notable artists (e.g., David Bowie), and some composers are established enough to have scored dozens of games. Those who fail both of these hurdles, though, shouldn't have categories. Grutness... wha?   03:58, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 06:42, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all without a standalone article (which all of these are) per nom. Keep any that do. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:44, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all, since they don't have standalone articles. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:04, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Albums produced by FRED

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge (as the target has contents) Timrollpickering (talk) 10:39, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Albums produced by FRED to Category:Albums produced by Fred Again
 * Nominator's rationale: The artist/musician in question's main article is named Fred Again and that's how he is known professionally - https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/who-is-fred-again-the-man-behind-some-huge-chart-hits-for-ed-sheeran-little-mix-and-george-ezra__28449/ → Lil- ℧niquԐ1 - ( Talk ) - 13:01, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Combine With to be consistent with the outcome is for the above nomination, whether I agree with it or not. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:57, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename per the other nom. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:03, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  bibliomaniac 1  5  19:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename/merge per Fred Again. Should be a speedy. Oculi (talk) 19:52, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Reggae albums by Puerto Rican artists
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Category:Redirects to Wikipedia project pages

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 23:00, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting redirects to wikipedia project pages


 * Nominator's rationale: We don't collect redirects by namespace of the target in other cases, why should we do so here? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:57, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

It's also verifiably untrue that we don't do this for other namespaces because R from draft exists. Either way, I'd notify Template talk:R to project namespace about this nom. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 19:52, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose. 7690 transclusions.. that just kind of just shows you right there it's a popular category.
 * Well, no. Your linked rcat is for collecting redirects "from pages in the draft namespace (drafts) to articles in mainspace". This category collects redirects from Wikipedia namespace to Wikipedia namespace. This is like collecting redirects from mainspace to mainspace. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:55, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * "from pages in the draft namespace (drafts) to articles in mainspace" is an example of a redirect "by namespace of the target" which was your original contention. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 03:04, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * okay, maybe I have worded the nomination not clear enough; still, there is an explanation in the description of the category. This category explicitly collects redirects from project space to project space. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose – Yes, there are other categories like that, e.g. Category:Redirects to templates and Category:Redirects to portals. You haven't given any reason why we shouldn't continue to use them. M.Clay1 (talk) 01:44, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * the equivalent of the categories you named for project namespace is . The redirects in the linked categories are only cross-namespace while this is just every single redirect to project namespace. doesn't contain all redirects from article namespace to article namespace either. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That's not correct. You can see in those categories that they are redirects within the same namespace. There are also categories for cross-namespace redirects. The naming is consistent. There's no category for all redirects within the main namespace because it would be unnecessary – all redirects that aren't in those other categories are in the mainspace. M.Clay1 (talk) 14:38, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Any comments? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:53, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, my comment would include a big keep because unfortunately the above premise is false. When we look at the functional index of rcat templates, we find under Navigation aids the subsection called To namespaces. Nine rcats are listed that, rcats that categorize redirects by the namespace the targets are in. Each rcat template categorizes redirects to maintenance categories like this one, categories that are monitored by either individual editors or by bots. Long ago, editors found it to be an improvement to the project to monitor as many redirects as possible, which is why I've spent more than ten years finding uncatted redirects and sorting them to appropriate maintenance categories. So this category and its rcat template, R to project namespace, should continue to be utilized.  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 11:39, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * As already said, the other rcats are only used for XNRs. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Afraid that's incorrect,, since R to help namespace and R to portal namespace also (in addition to the nom's rcat, R to project namespace) categorize redirects from both outside (XNR) and inside (non-XNR) their namespaces to respectively (or ) and  (or ). Still say these are important maintenance categories.  P.I. Ellsworth    ed.  put'r there 13:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. What maintenance do they help to do? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:04, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Pleasure! Redirect categories are used to get a handle on the many and varied types of redirects. Categories readily show how many redirects are within it, and bots are used to extract other data from high volume categories. Some redirect maintenance categories are used to make sure redirects are not targeting the wrong namespaces and to find redirects that need to be mentioned on their target page, retargeted or deleted. There are probably several more data-collection tasks about which I don't have a clue for which redirect maintenance categories are used.  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 18:42, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cuban-American Republicans

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 10:40, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Cuban-American Republicans to Category:American politicians of Cuban descent
 * Nominator's rationale: A non-notable triple intersection of descent, nationality, and political party. User:Namiba 18:20, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete both descent category; no explanation of how distant the descent may be, what reliable sources tell us that anyone is of that much, or that this is a notable intersection between nationality, career, and 'descent'. American politicians of Cuban descent notably doesn't exist. The closest article seems to be Hispanic and Latino conservatism in the United States which - apart from aggregating Cuban-Americans with those of an unspecified 'descent' - aggregates those of howeverly-defined 'Cuban-ness' with 'Mexican-ness', 'Puerto Rican-ness' and several dozen other '-ness'es, and then we have the difference between conservatives and Republicans. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:49, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. The parent category exists and has not been nominated, so deletion is currently not an option. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge -- all such categories were renamed to the target format some years ago, except American ones. The target format is to be preferred as being clearer.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:59, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Redirects to decade

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Redirects to a decade; revisit if unsatisfactory There's no support for the current name but opinion is divided all over on the destination with discussion having ground to a halt and unlikely to revive; this one has the most support Timrollpickering (talk) 17:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Redirects to decade to Category:Redirects to decades
 * Nominator's rationale: Plural. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:23, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Disagree. The plural for the category is for the entries, which are "redirects. Each redirect goes to one decade, so "decade" should not be plural. Its rcat template is R to decade, not R to decades. If anything, a correct and more precise name would be ; however, the creators of this type of maintenance category appeared to prefer to leave out definite and indefinite articles, to be concise rather than precise. So this category name is acceptable just as it is.  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 21:55, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Almost every rcat is named with a plural in that position. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:18, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sometimes the plural applies, sometimes it doesn't. There might be more than one modification or more than one diacritical mark in a target title or a redirect title. In this case, in never applies. These redirects always target only one decade, so it would be inappropriate to use "decades" (plural). I would not be averse to renaming the cat to ; although I could be wrong, it just seems there are much more pressing improvement needs on Wikipedia!  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 12:27, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I would still say that the redirect "point to decades", not to "decade" or "a decade". While a single one always redirects to one decade, they don't target the same one. Would you really use "films about an animal" for films that only address one animal (but each a different one)? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:30, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would. Either works, I suppose; however, "films about an animal" in this case is more precise than "films about animals" (imho).  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 22:10, 6 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Agree that Category:Redirects to a decade is a little more precise than Category:Redirects to decades, as every redirect links to one decade only. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support as nominated. Each redirect is only to one target, but we still use plurals in category names both for "redirects" and for the description of the targets, see . – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:50, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Alt rename to Category:Redirects to decade articles. The indefinite article doesn't really make sense given our conventions, and the mere plural "decades" seems, for lack of a better policy-related rationale, rather strange. I think if specificity is our main goal, the best way to put it is probably using "decade articles."  bibliomaniac 1  5  02:54, 10 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Retired ISO codes
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 10:42, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Retired ISO codes to Category:Retired ISO 639-3 codes
 * Nominator's rationale: From the description, this should be called "Retired ISO 639-3 codes". 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:19, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


 * As the creator of the cats, I support this and the following 2 requests. — kwami (talk) 22:33, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Dubious ISO redirects
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 10:43, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Dubious ISO redirects to Category:Dubious ISO 639-3 redirects
 * Nominator's rationale: From the description, this should be called "Dubious ISO 639-3 redirects". 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:17, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Circular ISO redirects
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Category:R.S. Naval Forces
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Royal Saudi Navy (the category has been renamed since this discussion started) Timrollpickering (talk) 10:48, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:R.S. Naval Forces to Category:Royal Saudi Navy bases
 * Nominator's rationale: These are the bases of the Royal Saudi Navy. Sildemund (talk) 16:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Saudi Arabian Navy per WP:SMALLCAT. (If the category is kept, support rename.) Marcocapelle (talk) 17:43, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with merging. Originally I thought there was a possibility of one or two more articles on reported minor naval bases at Yanbu, Dammam and Mishab. However, I have struggled to find sufficient reliable sources for them. Sildemund (talk) 20:50, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * does your agreement also include the below nominations? Marcocapelle (talk) 16:17, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree with merging these too. If I can find or write new relevant articles, I will recreate these categories. Sildemund (talk) 19:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per Marcocapelle -- not enough content. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:R.S. Missile Defense
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Armed Forces of Saudi Arabia (the category has been renamed since this discussion started) Timrollpickering (talk) 10:48, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:R.S. Missile Defense to Category:Royal Saudi Strategic Missile Force
 * Nominator's rationale: Match the main article. Sildemund (talk) 16:19, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Saudi Arabian Armed Forces per WP:SMALLCAT. (If the category is kept, support rename.) Marcocapelle (talk) 17:49, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per Marcocapelle -- not enough content. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:R.S. Land Forces
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Armed Forces of Saudi Arabia (the category has been renamed since this discussion started) Timrollpickering (talk) 10:48, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:R.S. Land Forces to Category:Saudi Arabian Army
 * Nominator's rationale: Match the main article. Sildemund (talk) 16:18, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Saudi Arabian Armed Forces per WP:SMALLCAT. (If the category is kept, support rename.) Marcocapelle (talk) 17:50, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per Marcocapelle -- not enough content. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:R.S. Air Defense
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Armed Forces of Saudi Arabia (the category has been renamed since this discussion started) Timrollpickering (talk) 10:48, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:R.S. Air Defense to Category:Royal Saudi Air Defense
 * Nominator's rationale: To match the main article, Royal Saudi Air Defense. Sildemund (talk) 14:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Saudi Arabian Armed Forces per WP:SMALLCAT. (If the category is kept, support rename.) Marcocapelle (talk) 17:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per Marcocapelle -- not enough content. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Harvard University alumni from Peru
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 10:48, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Harvard University alumni from Peru to Category:Harvard University alumni
 * Nominator's rationale: Feels like WP:OVERCATEGORISATION, there's no other country of origin categories for Harvard and I don't think it's something we should encourage? Le Deluge (talk) 11:56, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:02, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge as a trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:39, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per trivia - surprised we don't have alumni by Peruvian descent, but that'll come no doubt around here. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:50, 4 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Seminole Caucus
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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 10:49, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting seminole caucus


 * Nominator's rationale: I am not sure what the Seminole Caucus is. There is no article about it and the description in the category is not clear. It seems to be anon-defining Florida legislative caucus. User:Namiba 11:39, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:02, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. For the record, it's composed of Florida State University graduates and supporters . Raymie (t • c) 21:04, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:50, 4 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Comedy albums by record label
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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 10:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting comedy albums by record label


 * Nominator's rationale: There is no scheme of [genre] by record label. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:27, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Laugh.com albums
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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 10:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting laugh.com albums


 * Nominator's rationale: Redlink record label ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:26, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


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Ancient music genres
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 10:51, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:4th-century BC music genres to Category:Ancient music genres
 * Propose merging Category:3rd-century BC music genres to Category:Ancient music genres
 * Propose merging Category:1st-century music genres to Category:Ancient music genres
 * Propose merging Category:2nd-century music genres to Category:Ancient music genres
 * Propose merging Category:3rd-century music genres to Category:Ancient music genres
 * Propose merging Category:4th-century music genres to Category:Ancient music genres
 * Propose merging Category:5th-century music genres to Category:Ancient music genres
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, overly precise, none of these music genres is specifically associated with a particular century. Also WP:SMALLCAT applies. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:36, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Christians of medieval Islam
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 10:52, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Christians of medieval Islam to Category:Christians in the medieval Islamic world
 * Propose renaming Category:Jews of medieval Islam to Category:Jews in the medieval Islamic world
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, improving awkward phrasing ("of Islam" implies Muslim), and aligning with parent Category:Christianity in the medieval Islamic world and Category:Judaism in the medieval Islamic world. - Marcocapelle (talk) 08:32, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: Not opposed to renaming, but the rationale is not quite accurate. Medieval Islam = Medieval Islamic world = the equivalent of Christendom. It refers to the historical period from the 7th to 15th centuries and part of the world where the dominant religious and cultural influence was the religion of Islam. Geographically, medieval Islam extended from the Iberian Peninsula through North Africa and the Middle East, to central Asia. This is how it is defined and used in the academic literature, but I can see why it can be confusing for the average Wiki reader. Al-Andalusi (talk) 15:14, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Support It eliminates a reading to Christian eyes that it contains people who are both Christian and "of Islam" which at first glance seems contradictory. The proposal, while wordier, is clearer in its intent and cope. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:23, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support -- A much more satisfactory name. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:04, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Muslim apologists
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 * The result of the discussion was: no action. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:54, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting muslim apologists


 * Nominator's rationale: This seems to be quite subjective and unnecessary <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  07:44, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Procedural oppose, this should be discussed in conjunction with its sibling categories in Category:Religious apologists. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:22, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree with Marcocapelle; these should all go - although the concept is well-understood and is probably defining for some in the tree, there are better ways to express the concept and define the limits. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:52, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree that there are others that should go also. Thanks for pointing them out. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  23:24, 5 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Afro-Latin American
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 June 10%23Category:Afro-Latin American

Category:Computer olympiads
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:58, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Computer olympiads
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT and the spirit of WP:C2F, one eponymous article
 * No conceptual objection to this category but the only thing in it is the main article, Computer Olympiad, and Template:Computer Olympiads which is already in that same main article. There's no navigational purpose for this category and I don't anticipate future notable articles but, if I'm wrong and we ever get up to 5 articles, no objection to recreating. (Alternatively, if kept, rename to Category:Computer Olympiads to fix the capitalization.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:22, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * *RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. -RD


 * Comment and !vote - I've rarely seen a main article more ripe for splitting into multiple articles by Olympiad. Perhaps this is a case of delete for now and re-create once the split has been done using the properly capitalised name. Grutness... wha?   03:19, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete for now per above discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Charles S. Roberts Award winners
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Charles S. Roberts Award winners
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
 * The Charles S. Roberts Award is an award named after Charles S. Roberts and is given to wargames. The games in this category do mention this award in passing with other honors but it doesn't seem defining to, say, Nuclear War (card game) or A House Divided (board game) but click around the category to pick your own examples. The contents of the category are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. (Alternatively, if kept, purge the biographies of game designers who received a related but different award.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:22, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * *RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. -RD


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ֆօʍɛɮօɖʏǟռʏɮօɖʏ05 (talk) 18:58, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:OCAWARD again. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:05, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


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