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Category:BBC historic farms series

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting bbc historic farms series


 * Nominator's rationale: There is no reason for both this and Category:BBC_historic_farm_series to exist, and that category has a superset of the articles in this category (which only contains BBC_historic_farm_series). This category was previously discussed for deletion, before that other category existed. At the time of that discussion, the contents of the category was turned into the sole article that is contained in this category. Given the current circumstances, I think it makes sense to go with a different choice than then. Gbear605 (talk) 23:31, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OVERLAPCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Old Delhi Residential Colonies

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:26, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting old delhi residential colonies


 * Nominator's rationale: A google search for "Old Delhi Residential Colonies" returns nothing outside of WP. Fuddle (talk) 23:07, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Perhaps all category creations of this editor need to be nominated, see User talk:Rajeev Gaur123. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Indian military brats

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:26, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting indian military brats


 * Nominator's rationale: This is a category routed in vandalism/POV/Attack Pi (Talk to me!)  21:50, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This is not vandalism. This Category is related to an existing article List_of_military_brats. Thanks. 2405:201:6401:87AE:790B:426E:3577:2343 (talk) 21:57, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_April_24 deleted in April. Oculi (talk) 22:00, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * There are four articles in the category. Not one of them has their inclusion supported by any source (reliable or otherwise) Pi (Talk to me!)  22:05, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:G4. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:23, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per precedent. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:South Jutlandic Artists

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:27, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:South Jutlandic Artists to Category:Southern Jutlandic artists
 * Nominator's rationale: I assume that's the proper demonym. Capitalization in any case. Fuddle (talk) 20:00, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. We don't use demonyms for sub-national areas, so if we were the keep this category, the format would be Category:Artists from South Jutland.
 * However, "South Jutland" is not a current division of Denmark. South Jutland is  a dab page, and the other variants of the title are all former adminstrative divisions. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 23:20, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per previous comment. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per BHG. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per previous, but still more seriously, only two of these are visual artists, the other 3 all authors. Johnbod (talk) 00:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Quechua language Writers

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Quechua-language writers Timrollpickering (talk) 13:31, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Quechua language Writers to Category:Quechua-language authors
 * Nominator's rationale: To follow patterns. Fuddle (talk) 19:55, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oops, Category:Quechua-language writers also exists. Fuddle (talk) 19:57, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Quechua-language writers, per consistency with Category:Writers by nationality. Authors is mostly synonymous with writers. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 21:58, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * More to the point, for consistency with . Grutness... wha?   02:01, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy merge per WP:C2A. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:26, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support merge per above. Grutness... wha?   02:01, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per above. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support the merge to writers. SportingFlyer  T · C  20:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Punjabi Magazines of Pakistan

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Punjabi-language mass media Timrollpickering (talk) 13:32, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting punjabi magazines of pakistan


 * Nominator's rationale: Covered by Category:Magazines published in Pakistan. Category:Punjabi-language magazines could someday be added under Category:Punjabi-language mass media. Fuddle (talk) 19:53, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to Category:Punjabi-language mass media. Oculi (talk) 21:22, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:European Computers
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 17%23Category:European Computers

Category:Deans of Indian Law Schools
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 6%23Category:Deans of Indian Law Schools

Category:Government schools in Nigeria
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 6%23Category:Government schools in Nigeria

Category:Académie française

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename all Timrollpickering (talk) 13:35, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Renaming Category:Académie française to Category:Académie Française
 * Propose Renaming Category:Académie française awards to Category:Académie Française awards
 * Propose Renaming Category:Members of the Académie française to Category:Members of the Académie Française
 * Propose Renaming Category:Académie française navbox templates to Category:Académie Française navigational boxes
 * Propose Renaming Category:Expelled members of the Académie française to Category:Expelled members of the Académie Française
 * Nominator's rationale: Per the spirit of WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name
 * Académie Française is the official institution in France for the French language. In English, this organization would be the "French Academy", in French it would be "Académie française" but as a result of the consensus from this Requested Move discussion, the Wikipedia name for the article is now "Académie Française" with a capital "F" and a suggestion from that a broader WP:RFC be started to help settle French naming conventions. The incongruity of having a Franglais name for the official French language organization is not lost on me and I would have voted for a different outcome in the WP:RM. However, I favor challenging RM outcomes in either WP:MRV or with a new RM. From my viewpoint, CFD should only second guess main article naming if there is a navigational impact unique to the category space. Pinging  who participated in the speedy nom, below. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:17, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Category:Académie française to Category:Académie Française - C2D per the main article, Académie Française, which had the "F" capitalized in this RM. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:43, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Académie française awards to Category:Académie Française awards
 * Category:Members of the Académie française to Category:Members of the Académie Française
 * Category:Académie française navbox templates to Category:Académie Française navbox templates Category:Académie Française navigational boxes
 * RevelationDirect Oppose as proposed Subcategory of so this should be renamed to . Armbrust The Homunculus 06:00, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Nom revised to reflect your WP:C2C concern. RevelationDirect (talk) 10:15, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Expelled members of the Académie française to Category:Expelled members of the Académie Française
 * Oppose this batch - this is not consensual, and even weird that we would use the French name but the way the French write it (which is Académie française). It goes against guideline MOS:FRANCE, specifically § Capitalization (which explicitely refers to WP:NCCAPS) and § Names of organisations and institutions. As the RM showed a very thin consensus, I think this is worth a full discussion. Place Clichy (talk) 14:23, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Support all proposed renames to capital F. The basic Wikipedia principle at stake here is to follow what we find in well-edited mainstream English-language sources. Essentially this is a question that can be settled by empirical research rather than individual editor's opinions. An investigation showed that it is common practice to anglicize such names by capitalizing them as though they were English proper names. I once had an English teacher who explained it by saying this is what English readers expect, and that it aids rapid reading comprehension. However, we don't need a reason. As Wikipedia editors, it is not our job by our opinions (equivalent to original research) to "correct" or "fix" the way things are done in the world outside of the Wikipedia, rather it is our job to determine how things are done and to follow what is commonly accepted. --Robert.Allen (talk) 18:22, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Conscription in Sri Lanka

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:33, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting conscription in sri lanka


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Sri Lanka has never been implemented conscription so it is unlikely this category will ever contain any other article than the eponymous Conscription in Sri Lanka. Obi2canibe (talk) 16:34, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Keep Conscription has taken place in Sri Lanka historically with the Rājākariya and non-state sanctioned conscription by the LTTE in areas under their control, including conscription of children. Hence this Category is valid and potential to grow. Cossde (talk) 05:21, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, the article Militant use of children in Sri Lanka does not belong here. After removal of that article speedy criterion WP:C2F applies. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:35, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Odesza

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:28, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting odesza


 * Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a musical duo, without the volume of spinoff content needed to justify an eponymous category. One of the subcategories filed here doesn't really belong here at all, because an "Artists by record label" category does not properly belong as a direct subcategory of an eponymous category for the person or people who happen to own the record label -- that's categorization on loose association grounds, not a defining characteristic of the bands. But once that's removed, all that would be left is the eponym and the standard "band albums" category, which is not enough to justify an eponymous category. Bearcat (talk) 16:29, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Songs written by Tanishk Bagchi

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 * The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn by nominator Timrollpickering (talk) 13:40, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Songs written by Tanishk Bagchi to Category:Songs with music by Tanishk Bagchi
 * Nominator's rationale: The already was a pre-existing category for composer who does not write songs, but contributes music only Richhoncho (talk) 15:56, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * WITHDRAWN BY NOM. Merge should go other way as Bagchi has written lyrics too. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:23, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose deletion. Not be merged because he has also written some songs. And a category of songs with lyrics by tanishk does not exist. Empire AS (talk) 15:15, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Order of the Oak Crown

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 13:33, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Order of the Oak Crown to Category:Orders of chivalry of Luxembourg
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge, category only contains one article and one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:39, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge I'm not sure if the 3rd level award is defining, but this intermediate category is definitely not adding navigational value. RevelationDirect (talk) 17:03, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps what's needed is to nominate Category:Order of the Oak Crown recipients for deletion to see whether it's defining. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:32, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:People from New Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 13:33, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from New Bethlehem, Pennsylvania to Category:People from Clarion County, Pennsylvania
 * Nominator's rationale: Small one-county community with just one entry. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:31, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:37, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Anglo-Normans in Ireland
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 13:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Anglo-Normans in Ireland to Category:Normans in Ireland
 * Nominator's rationale: rename to align with article Normans in Ireland. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:23, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Support There is some debate as to whether the initial wave of Normans was composed of Anglo-Normans or Cambro-Normans. It's probably useful to fudge this question by just calling them Normans. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:41, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Ancient Roman architecture by type
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 13:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman architecture by type to Category:Ancient Roman buildings and structures by type
 * Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content, all subcategories are about buildings and structures. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:19, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:42, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Yeşiltepe
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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete G7. In practice it was necessary to upmerge to Category:Villages in Turkey as Rathfelder had removed the articles from that category after creating this page as its sub-cat.– Fayenatic  L ondon 15:14, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting yeşiltepe


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SHAREDNAME. This category groups three villages from difft regions of Turkey, whose shared attribute is that they are all named "Yeşiltepe": Yeşiltepe, Aksaray; Yeşiltepe, Amasya; Yeşiltepe, Taşova.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 08:39, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Agree it should go. This must be one I picked up from Wikipedia:Special:WantedCategories.  As I created it can it go speedily? Rathfelder (talk) 09:14, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy per WP:G7. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:24, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:The Grates songs
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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:29, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting the grates songs


 * Nominator's rationale: Only one entry. A redirect. No use for reader's navigation. Richhoncho (talk) 08:39, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:24, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Yoshi games
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep Category:Yoshi games, delete Category:Yoshi.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:27, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Yoshi games to Category:Yoshi
 * Nominator's rationale: The higher category contains only the main article, Yoshi. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 05:48, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Alternative: delete Category:Yoshi, but keep Category:Yoshi games in order to keep the content in the various video games trees. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:14, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I have just tagged Category:Yoshi. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Support Marcocapelle as Category:Yoshi games makes more sense to keep. Captain Galaxy (talk) 12:37, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Heresy in Orthodox Judaism
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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:33, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting heresy in orthodox judaism


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT, after the main article was redirected. Suggesting deletion as nothing of the remainder should be upmerged to either parent cat. gidonb (talk) 04:02, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Upmerge I would say that an upmerge would be the logical step. The three subcategories are already there, but Shulem Deen isn't, so it should be upmerged. Debresser (talk) 20:30, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * No way! It's not a defining characteristic of this person. Read the article. gidonb (talk) 23:56, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That is already a discussion for that article's talkpage. In any case, if there will be what to upmerge, it should be upmerged. Debresser (talk) 10:05, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Shulem Deen is a WP:BLP. He is very much alive. Of course, we should not hold a separate discussion on its talk page (or the category talk page) whether to include him in this category! BLP is a Wikipedia policy not some essay. contains all the rest and probably already much more than it should because it really should be about Heresy in Judaism (i.e. the concept), not about alleged or even widely accepted heresies in Judaism, such as failed messiahs. The latter btw are already in  and can perhaps be kept there if no better categorization scheme is found or exists. Right now there is nothing to salvage in . gidonb (talk) 17:11, 28 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect or Upmerge to Category:Heresy in Judaism since Heresy in Orthodox Judaism now redirects to Heresy in Judaism, and will probably be expanded. IZAK (talk) 00:20, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. 00:23, 22 June 2020 (UTC)  IZAK (talk) 00:23, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Blogging in bangladesh
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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:29, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting blogging in bangladesh


 * Nominator's rationale: Insufficient scope for a category. The article Blogging in Bangladesh was created just yesterday, and it is currently the only article in the category. I note that similar articles—such as Blogging in Iran and Blogging in Myanmar—do not include eponymous categories. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 01:24, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy per WP:C2F. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Boettcher Scholars‎
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 17:52, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Boettcher Scholars‎
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
 * The Boettcher Foundation gives Boettcher Scholarships to high school student from Colorado to go to college. These articles are already in the alumni category for whichever college they attended and mention the award in passing in the early life/education section. Undoubtedly, these are promising high school seniors who were defined by the award for that year, but Wikipedia doesn't generally have articles on promising high school seniors per WP:NACADEMIC. What we actually have in this category are people who went to college with this scholarship and then later became notable for other things later in their lives. We have a Catch-22 where, when the award is defining enough for a category, they aren't notable enough for an article and, when they're notable enough for an article, the category is no longer defining. There wasn't a list so I created one here in the main article so no information is lost. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:19, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:22, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Stuart Scholars
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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:30, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Stuart Scholars
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD, WP:OVERLAPCAT) and WP:V
 * According to the header of this category, "This page lists recipients of the Edward Crosland Stuart Jr scholarship to Davidson College." We don't have articles on the Stuart Scholarship or Edward Crosland Stuart Jr., and the Davidson College article makes no mention of it. 2 of the 3 articles mention the award in passing and are already categorized under Category:Davidson College alumni; the 3rd appears to be miscategorized. There's nothing remotely defining about receiving financial aid with a school's named scholarship. I don't think the award is notable enough for an article but, if anyone wants to try, I listed the current contents here so no work is lost. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:19, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per above reasons. -- Pemilligan (talk) 00:29, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


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