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Category:Eloise books

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:17, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Eloise books to Category:Eloise (books)
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge and redirect. The parent has just been renamed from  to match the main article Eloise (books). Both categories are in similar parents, which should be merged onto the target category page. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:12, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. SportingFlyer  T · C  14:13, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Same scope. Dimadick (talk) 19:23, 12 June 2020 (UTC)


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Novels about wars
Relisted, see Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 14%23Novels about wars

Category:Grama Niladhari Divisions of Sri Jayawardanapura Kotte Divisional Secretariat

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:19, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Grama Niladhari Divisions of Sri Jayawardanapura Kotte Divisional Secretariat to Category:Grama Niladhari Divisions of Kotte Divisional Secretariat
 * Nominator's rationale: Was created with inappropriate name: article on the DS is at title Kotte Divisional Secretariat. See User talk:PamD. Pam  D  15:40, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Wait, I read in the article about Colombo District that it has 2.3 million people and is divided in no less than 566 of these divisions. Are these divisions really notable? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:14, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Interesting question. For background see User talk:Nsenaratna, Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents and User:Nsenaratna/sandbox/Sorry. On the other hand your figures give an average population of just over 4,000, which is more than quite a few American "cities", French villages, etc, and any legally recognised populated place is notable.  Pam  D  23:29, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This is not comparable to villages, it is rather comparable to when we would hypothetically divide Los Angeles into units of 4,000 people. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:51, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Reluctantly support, per WP:C2D, but the articles of this tree should probably be AFD'd. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:51, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Hindu activists

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:58, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting hindu activists


 * Nominator's rationale: Unclear scope; includes religious leaders, politicians belonging to a Hindu nationalist party, and authors who wrote about Hinduism. Also unclear what "Hindu activist" could even mean. Viable subcategories already exist (eg "Indian Hindu religious leaders"), so delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:31, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Procedural oppose, this should be discussed in conjunction with its sibling categories in Category:Religious activists. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


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Nazis who committed suicide by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:21, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Nazis who committed suicide in Belgium to Category:Nazis who committed suicide and Category:Suicides in Belgium
 * Propose merging Category:Nazis who committed suicide in Brazil to Category:Nazis who committed suicide and Category:Suicides in Brazil
 * Propose merging Category:Nazis who committed suicide in Czechoslovakia to Category:Nazis who committed suicide and Category:Suicides in Czechoslovakia
 * Propose merging Category:Nazis who committed suicide in France to Category:Nazis who committed suicide and Category:Suicides in France
 * Propose merging Category:Nazis who committed suicide in Hungary to Category:Nazis who committed suicide and Category:Suicides in Hungary
 * Propose merging Category:Nazis who committed suicide in Lithuania to Category:Nazis who committed suicide and Category:Suicides in Lithuania Category:Suicides in Latvia changed per discussion below
 * Propose merging Category:Nazis who committed suicide in Norway to Category:Nazis who committed suicide and Category:Suicides in Norway
 * Propose merging Category:Nazis who committed suicide in Poland to Category:Nazis who committed suicide and Category:Suicides in Poland
 * Propose merging Category:Nazis who committed suicide in Romania to Category:Nazis who committed suicide and Category:Suicides in Romania
 * Propose merging Category:Nazis who committed suicide in the Netherlands to Category:Nazis who committed suicide and Category:Suicides in the Netherlands
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT (1-4 articles in each category) and a trivial intersection. Note that Germany and Austria have been omitted from this nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:23, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Upmerge per nom.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 15:48, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per nom. Grutness... wha?   03:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, should this not be ? Grutness... wha?   23:25, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 02:16, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Where people commit suicide or die is very rarely defining.Rathfelder (talk) 14:59, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Upmerge, also note that the single entry in Category:Nazis who committed suicide in Lithuania actually belongs to Latvia.... Renata (talk) 08:27, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, indeed the Courland Peninsula is in Latvia. I have changed the nomination accordingly. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Upmerge per nom. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:56, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 23:06, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per nom. Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 13:19, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. I feel it's also worth pointing out that in the case of both entries in the category Category:Nazis who committed suicide in Poland, the places where those suicides occurred were not part of Poland at the time the suicides occurred. Ejgreen77 (talk) 13:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I think the only viable way of dealing with the geography of Eastern Europe is to use the boundaries that exist now. Rathfelder (talk) 10:20, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Apologies for nominating them again.  Rathfelder (talk) 10:17, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Ținutul Argeș

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ținutul argeș


 * Nominator's rationale: A few months ago, this discussion established that we shouldn’t have categories classifying places based on the Romanian administrative system of 1925-1938. I guess we need to spend time on a new discussion to demonstrate to the same user that categories pertaining to the Romanian administrative system of 1938-1940 are also pointless. Biruitorul Talk 13:59, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, we should not categorize places by former national or administrative borders. It is not defining and especially in Europe if it would implemented at a larger scale it would lead to a huge amount of unnecessary category clutter in the articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:22, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 23:06, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 13:45, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Poor BellWethers for Sri Lankan Presidential Elections

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:29, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting poor bellwethers for sri lankan presidential elections


 * Nominator's rationale: There should be no such thing as a "poor leading indicator" for an election in an encyclopedia. Vexations (talk) 10:58, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Question which articles used to be in this category? Marcocapelle (talk) 18:53, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I thought Colombo West Polling Division. Perhaps ask User:NsenaratnaVexations (talk)
 * Now I'm getting it, the category was meant for election districts of which the results poorly match with general election results. Delete per WP:NONDEF. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Marcocapelle, Category:Poor BellWethers for Sri Lankan Presidential Elections had a typo, and was replaced with Category:Poor Bellwethers for Sri Lankan Presidential Elections - User:Nsenaratna —Preceding undated comment added 04:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Both are empty and both should be deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Mojang

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:31, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Mojang to Category:Mojang Studios
 * Nominator's rationale: The company "Mojang" was renamed "Mojang Studios" in May. The article and navbox template have followed suit, and so should the category. I did this boldly but was reverted. IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 10:19, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Support: As the creator of the category, I consider this to be a very boilerplate retitle. Let's make it happen.  D ÅRTH B ØTTØ ( T • C ) 15:32, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 13:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per new company name. — HELL KNOWZ   ▎TALK 10:39, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


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(Dis)establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza)

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge; without prejudice to a follow-up nomination, as discussed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:32, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:1948 disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) and Category:1948 disestablishments in Asia
 * Propose merging Category:1953 disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) and Category:1953 disestablishments in Asia
 * Propose merging Category:1959 disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) and Category:1959 disestablishments in Asia
 * Propose merging Category:1948 establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) and Category:1948 establishments in Asia
 * Propose merging Category:1949 establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) and Category:1949 establishments in Asia
 * Propose merging Category:1950 establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) and Category:1950 establishments in Asia
 * Propose merging Category:1953 establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) and Category:1953 establishments in Asia
 * Nominator's rationale, this is a small-scale follow-up on a more elaborate opposed speedy rename nomination (see collapsed below). The rationale for this is WP:SMALLCAT in combination with the fact that the All-Palestine Protectorate was a hardly a real country, it did not function except for issuing passports and it was recognized by very few other countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:16, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Category:All-Palestine people to Category:All-Palestine Protectorate people - C2D: per All-Palestine Protectorate and Category:All-Palestine Protectorate. --Gonnym (talk) 10:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:All-Palestine templates to Category:All-Palestine Protectorate templates
 * Category:All-Palestine navigational boxes to Category:All-Palestine Protectorate navigational boxes
 * Category:Disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Disestablishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:Disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) by decade to Category:Disestablishments in All-Palestine Protectorate by decade
 * Category:1940s disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1940s disestablishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1950s disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1950s disestablishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:Disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) by year to Category:Disestablishments in All-Palestine Protectorate by year
 * Category:1948 disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1948 disestablishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1953 disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1953 disestablishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1959 disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1959 disestablishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:Establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Establishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1940s establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1940s establishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1950s establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1950s establishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:Establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) by year to Category:Establishments in All-Palestine Protectorate by year
 * Category:1948 establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1948 establishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1949 establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1949 establishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1950 establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1950 establishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1953 establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1953 establishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:History of All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:History of All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:History of All-Palestine (Gaza) by period to Category:History of All-Palestine Protectorate by period
 * Category:Years of the 20th century in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Years of the 20th century in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:Decades in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Decades in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1940s in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1940s in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1950s in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1950s in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:Years in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Years in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1948 in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1948 in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1949 in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1949 in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1950 in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1950 in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1953 in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1953 in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1955 in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1955 in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1956 in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1956 in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1957 in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1957 in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:1959 in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1959 in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Category:Massacres in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Massacres in All-Palestine Protectorate
 * Oppose this batch. This is a non-consensus topic and worthy of a full discussion. For instance, I wonder if many of the categories for this short-lived puppet government may not rather be merged elsewhere rather than just renamed. Place Clichy (talk) 19:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * What exactly are you opposing? The categories aren't nominated for either deletion or creation (if that were a thing). It's just aligning the names with each other and the parent article and category per C2D. Gonnym (talk) 21:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Imho this is still worth a full discussion. Whatever the target here it will be non-consensual. A full discussion will allow us to reach a consensual target. Place Clichy (talk) 22:40, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I don't see how exactly this is a valid oppose. This is exactly what C2D means. If the name isn't good, it should be handled at the article level and not at the category levels. CFD should not make WP:LOCALCONSENSUS a thing. --Gonnym (talk) 22:51, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * are you planning to move these categories to full CFD in order to have them merged? (because if you are not, there seems to be little reason to further delay renaming) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * C2D allows for exceptions, and requires anyway that the target is both unambiguous and uncontroversial, neither of which are met here. Anyway, the real issue here is that what is called All-Palestinian Protectorate in the eponymous article never actually had any existence (beside its first 3 months in 1948 according to the author of most of these categories, as argued here) and that this content should probably better be located elsewhere than in what looks like a country category structure. Notably, all the chronology and (dis)establishment categories would probably better be served by referring to an expression like Egyptian rule in the Gaza Strip, or sticking to a purely geographical terminology such as Palestinian territories or Gaza Strip. They may also be purely deleted or upmerged to larger parents. Note that all these categories have actually very few articles in them. Besides the articles directly related to the Egyptian short-lived straw government (All-Palestine National Council, All-Palestine Government) and wider articles relative to the Arab-Israeli conflict and Israeli military operations, all you have is two localities (Kfar Darom and Bureij), a newspaper (Gaza Weekly Newspaper) and a football club (Shabab Rafah). This is very little content for 31 chronology and establishment categories. For the time being and until someone creates a CfD for them, a name that mentions (Gaza) is more useful to the reader than a name that does not include it, for most or all of these categories. Place Clichy (talk) 15:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


 * pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:16, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Remove these -- The area was known as the "Gaza strip" and everyone treated it as part of Egypt until Israeli conquest in 1967, even if there was a puppet protectorate. The target for the last should be Category:1959 in Gaza strip.  Peterkingiron (talk) 20:19, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * would you agree with the alt merge I propose below? I think it is quite close to what you suggest (the nuance being if it is necessary to keep yearly categories for so few articles). Place Clichy (talk) 13:59, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Obvious oppose. The article, as I've clearly shown, is not at All-Palestine (Gaza). --Gonnym (talk) 01:34, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Reluctantly support merge as nom as better than a no consensus outcome, but All-Palestine shouldn't be used in periodization of the history of this region at all. The attempt to establish a government called All-Palestine Government or All-Palestine Protectorate aborted as early as 1948 (see for instance this discussion), and the period between 1948 and 1967 would better be described as something like Egyptian rule in the Gaza Strip. As far as (dis)establishments are concerned, we may just as well stick to a purely geographical designation, and therefore alt merge to Category:Establishments in the Gaza Strip and Category:Disestablishments in the Gaza Strip. Place Clichy (talk) 23:06, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I was hoping for more editors participating in this discussion. As it stands, I will propose renaming the entire tree to Gaza Strip in a fresh nomination. Just to be clear, that doesn't mean I am withdrawing this merge nomination, because WP:SMALLCAT still stands. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:10, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:NCIS episode redirects to lists

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:37, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:NCIS episode redirects to lists to Category:NCIS (TV series) episode redirects to lists
 * Nominator's rationale: C2D: NCIS (TV series), NCIS - St3095   (?)  07:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Clearly yes, speedy Given that without the brackets it would have to apply to the federal organisation rather than the TV series it should this should happen asap. simply for clarity. --AlisonW (talk) 18:44, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Hebrew-language names

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 * The result of the discussion was: do not rename/keep. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:44, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Hebrew-language names to Category:?????
 * Nominator's rationale: has referred to this as an "idiotic category", and I'm not sure what it is supposed to include or exclude, so I decided to start a discussion here. Is it for articles with titles that are transliterated from Hebrew? Is it for articles whose title is a name for humans which have Hebrew origins? Is it even appropriate to categorize by article title rather than article content? I think not, but that is the status quo here. What should this category be? Also,  has suggested that it should be moved to Category:Hebrew names. Daask (talk) 13:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't recall the exact edit, but I'm pretty sure I meant "idiotic" in reference to the article it was applied to, not the category itself. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:27, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * The category should presumably include articles about Hebrew personal names although admittedly that is not entirely clear. Moving the category name to Category:Hebrew names would not help much in clarifying the scope. Including "personal" in the category name may be more helpful (provided it is also implemented in other language categories). Marcocapelle (talk) 14:56, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment we have a tree Category:Names by language, why is this one being singled out; problems of anglicization and transliteration are inherent in most of them. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:18, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  bibliomaniac 1  5  05:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Agree with Carlossuarez' procedural oppose. All sibling categories should be nominated simultaneously. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not even sure this is a properly formatted discussion. Recommend closing without prejudice if action needs to be taken, but I don't support doing anything with this - seems to be a proper category. SportingFlyer  T · C  06:41, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll readily confess I'm unsure about the proper format for this discussion. However, I'm confused by your opposition to any action. I ask a number of questions in the nomination that I still don't know the answer to. I'm fine with and 's suggestion of redefining the category to human personal names, but that's a substantial change from the status quo; many articles here are not human names. Daask (talk) 20:13, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm opposing having any changes happen as an outcome of this specific discussion. I don't oppose any possible change. SportingFlyer  T · C  20:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep as part of Category:Names by language, for human names. The oddity here is Category:Hebrew names of Jewish holy days, which does not belong; it has just been nominated for merger, but if it is not merged then it should be moved up to Category:Hebrew words and phrases. – Fayenatic  L ondon 06:59, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, I had only looked at the sub-categories, so I'm grateful to Daask for pointing out that there are also articles in this category that are not about human names. I believe they should be moved up into Category:Hebrew words and phrases, although this suggestion has upset some other editors at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_June_8. It might be wise to nominate the "names by language" hierarchy for renaming to "human names by language", "Hebrew-language human names" etc, as Category:Names includes more than just Category:Human names. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:34, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - per consistency with other categories in Category:Names by language, just because some articles are mistakenly placed here is not a criteria for deletion. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 14:13, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:BlackAFinSTEM

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:47, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting blackafinstem


 * Nominator's rationale: According to CNN, this is the name of an online space shared by several people involved with Black Birders Week. It is also a Twitter account. I put this up for discussion because it seems outside the scope of our usual categorization and I'm not sure how we're supposed to determine inclusion. Presumably it isn't meant to include all African-Americans in STEM. gobonobo  + c 03:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I created the category to list all Wikipedia articles about notable members of the collective with the same name. It is an organized group and has been extensively covered by reliable secondary sources with details about their objectives and activities. It has a companion Wikidata item linked to the items of the corresponding members and holding additional information about the collectivee. The category serves a pretty well-defined purpose and I am not sure about the purpose of deleting it since it's similar to many other categories about organizations and collectives. --DarTar (talk) 03:59, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep The category has the purpose of listing all the articles about the notable members of the collective. Both the collective and many of its notable members have been and continue to be currently covered in reliable secondary sources. I'm in favour of keeping it. --Ambrosia10 (talk) 04:07, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as non-defining (e.g. not currently mentioned in the Corina Newsome article). It would be more appropriate to have an article (e.g. BlackAFinSTEM which is currently a redlink) which would mention some/all of these people. Note also that we generally prefer to categorize people in set categories (e.g. Founders of X) than in topic categories to avoid subjectiveness. DexDor(talk) 05:30, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete and create article. The article may contain a list of members. This is not suitable as a membership category, even for the founder Jason Ward (naturalist) it is a minor characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete not a defining characteristic for an individual article, but I highly suggest creating a topic on this. SportingFlyer  T · C  06:39, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:OCASSOC. So that no work is lost if anyone wants to create an article, I copied the current category contents here. RevelationDirect (talk) 10:15, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per non-defining and being a meaningless abbreviation (what does it mean?). An article if really appropriate (but I have my doubts). --AlisonW (talk) 18:40, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The name means Black as fuck in STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics). It's possible that BlackAFinSTEM could warrant a stand-alone article and I'd support this category once one exists. gobonobo  + c 20:42, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Whether the category is defining has nothing to do with whether there's a standalone article for the topic, this still won't be defining once an article is created. SportingFlyer  T · C  14:13, 8 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Astrid Lindgren Prize winners

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Astrid Lindgren Prize winners
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
 * The Astrid Lindgren Prize is an award for children's authors writing in Swedish named after Astrid Lindgren. There is another, similar award also named after her called the Astrid Lindgren Memorial Award which is more prominent while this award seems relatively obscure. Within the articles, this Astrid Lindgren award seems non-defining and is generally mentioned in passing or not at all, although a few have it in the intro. The contents of the category are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:38, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:07, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, per WP:OCAWARD. Another unnecessary category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 20:13, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, Another OCAWARD category. ֆօʍɛɮօɖʏǟռʏɮօɖʏ05 (talk) 15:18, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, other delete voters. SportingFlyer  T · C  14:12, 8 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:San Diego Film Award winners

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:San Diego Film Award winners
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
 * The San Diego Film Awards main article was deleted here in AFD due to lack of WP:NOTABILITY and concern that banned editors were spamming to promote an event. In contrast, the standard with this category is WP:DEFINING and, of the 5 articles in the category, 4 don't mention the award at all and 1 ("Shotgun" Tom Kelly) mentions it in passing. This doesn't seem like it would aid navigation and the creator is also blocked. I saved the current category contents here for reference. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:38, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * *Notify All contributors to the AFD, regardless of their iVote:  - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:41, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:09, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. SportingFlyer  T · C  06:39, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, per WP:OCAWARD. Another unnecessary category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 20:14, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, another OCAWARD category. ֆօʍɛɮօɖʏǟռʏɮօɖʏ05 (talk) 15:16, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 13:28, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


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