Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 May 27



Category:Miami-Dade County Public Schools teachers

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Schoolteachers from Florida.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:06, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Miami-Dade County Public Schools teachers to Category:Educators from Florida
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge to . Small category that is unlikely to grow. User:Namiba 13:00, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 11:45, 9 May 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Actually a few of the Category:Schoolteachers from Florida are from Miami-Dade. Rathfelder (talk) 14:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  bibliomaniac 1  5  19:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Support, but to Category:Schoolteachers from Florida instead. American school teachers are organized by state, and with the total number of American schoolteachers that we have articles on there is no reason to subdivide by county. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Support, but to Category:Schoolteachers from Florida, which is not so large that it needs splitting. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:14, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Berserk (manga)

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. It looks that there may need to be a discussion about possibly moving or splitting the main article first.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:08, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Berserk (manga) to Category:Berserk (franchise)
 * Nominator's rationale: The category lists 2 TV series, 3 games, a film series and the manga. That's more than enough for a "franchise" disambiguation. Gonnym (talk) 11:52, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  bibliomaniac 1  5  03:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose. @Gonnym: The head article is at Berserk (manga). If that is moved at a WP:RM discussion, then the category should be speedily renamed ... but otherwise, the head article should match the category title. Meanwhile Berserk (franchise) is a redlink. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * So a TV series is a manga now? two of the parent categories are franchise-related but that means nothing? Great oppose, I'm sure the current title is much more helpful. --Gonnym (talk) 15:03, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * @Gonnym, please don't put words in my mouth. I have pointed to a path which could change things — if you actually want to change things, rather than venting sarcasm. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't agree that the manga page needs moving, it's clearly the correct name for the manga article, which of course, does not mean that it is the best name for a category which is much larger than the manga in scope. I've created the link you mentioned as a redirect, but surely that wasn't a reason for an oppose. --Gonnym (talk) 16:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The head article Berserk (manga) is actually about the whole franchise. Its title should reflect that. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 16:14, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the article can be split between manga and frachise. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Members of Wigwam

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Wigwam (Finnish band) members.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:07, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Members of Wigwam to Category:Wigwam members
 * Nominator's rationale: C2C: Nearly all categories in this tree use the members pattern Vahurzpu (talk) 00:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

please will you review your !votes? -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:48, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Support. Mohanabhil (talk) 03:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - very true. Oculi (talk) 11:32, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Wigwam (Finnish band) members per head article Wigwam (Finnish band). The current title and the proposed title are highly ambiguous: see Wigwam (disambiguation), which has two screenfuls of entries (as viewed on my laptop), including two other bands.
 * I would support that modification. Vahurzpu (talk) 14:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Also very true. Oculi (talk) 18:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Wigwam (Finnish band) members. -- Apanuugpak (talk) 11:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Finders Keepers (band) albums

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:07, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Finders Keepers (band) albums to Category:Finders Keepers (band) members
 * Nominator's rationale: C2C: current name is misleading Vahurzpu (talk) 00:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Support, and given like it looks like the band never put out any albums, the current category has no use. Grutness... wha?   02:41, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - odd. Oculi (talk) 11:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Venezuelan Baseball Hall of Fame inductees

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:07, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Venezuelan Baseball Hall of Fame inductees
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
 * The Venezuelan Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum was established in 2002. Of the 55 articles in the category, 2 mention the award in the lede (1, 2), 3 don't mention it at all (3, 4, 5), and 50 mention it in passing, usually along with other halls of fame so this doesn't seem defining. In fact, the Ernesto Aparicio (baseball) and Luis Aparicio Sr. articles both being with them related to someone inducted into The Baseball Hall of Fame while actually getting this award gets a passing mention. For any reader interested in the topic, the contents of the category are already listified here in the main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * *RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. -RD


 * Delete per nominator, per WP:NONDEFINING and per WP:OCAWARD. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:42, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:34, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator. ֆօʍɛɮօɖʏǟռʏɮօɖʏ05 (talk) 21:58, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * DElete yet another NN OCAWARD case. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:15, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Arena Football Hall of Fame inductees

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:07, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Arena Football Hall of Fame inductees
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
 * The Arena Football League existed from 1987-2019 (with some gaps) while the Arena Football Hall of Fame inducted members from 1998-2014 (with more gaps). Of the 55 articles in the category, 34 mention in in passing, 1 doesn't mention it at all, and 12 mention the award in the lede, but that last group was mostly due to the enthusiasm of a single editor who also created this category. Playing arena football is definitely defining for these players and they are well categorized for that, whereas this award tends to just reflect that earlier fame. For any reader interested in the topic, the contents of the category are already listified here in the main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * *RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. -RD


 * Delete per nominator, per WP:NONDEFINING and per WP:OCAWARD. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:41, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:34, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator ֆօʍɛɮօɖʏǟռʏɮօɖʏ05 (talk) 21:59, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * DElete yet another NN OCAWARD case. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:15, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


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