Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 November 22



Category:Pages with misplaced templates
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Category:People from Hawaii (island)

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge Category:People from Hawaii County, Hawaii to Category:People from Hawaii (island), keeping a redirect. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:54, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Hawaii (island) to Category:People from Hawaii County, Hawaii
 * Nominator's rationale: Possibly I should have proposed this the other way around, but the Big Island of Hawaii is coterminous with Hawaii County, so there's no benefit to categorisation (and possible confusion) created by having both. YorkshireLad ✿  (talk) 21:18, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge or reverse merge per nom, and keep a redirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:40, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Combine No preference for which name but clearly overlapping. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:16, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:People from Hawaii (island), leaving a redirect. It would be weird to have in a category about Hawaii County, and all people related to the island before the creation of Hawaii County would still fit. Place Clichy (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Good point: probably this way around makes more sense than my original proposal. YorkshireLad ✿  (talk) 13:02, 26 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Preferably reverse merge leaving redirect. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:44, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge per nom (to be clear, this means the proposed merge, but the other way round per Place Clichy). SportingFlyer  T · C  15:54, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Ikari no Yousai

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete, merging contents per . Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:53, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ikari no yousai


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT (small and with no potential for expansion) ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:28, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Support in principle, possibly to be merged to parents Category:Cooperative video games, Category:Jaleco games and/or Category:Run and gun games. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:45, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Aviation in the Mediterranean Sea

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Aviation in the Mediterranean Sea to Category:Transport in the Mediterranean Sea and Category:Aviation by sea or ocean
 * Propose merging Category:Aviation in the Indian Ocean to Category:Transport in the Indian Ocean and Category:Aviation by sea or ocean
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge, redundant category layer, each with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Dual Merge Both These both seemed reasonable until I clicked on them and all they hold is the aviation accident subcategory. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:44, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Dual merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


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Mayors of places in Marche

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:50, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge Category:Mayors of Ancona to Category:People from Ancona and Category:Mayors of places in Marche
 * Merge Category:Mayors of Ascoli Piceno‎ to Category:People from Ascoli Piceno‎ and Category:Mayors of places in Marche
 * Merge Category:Mayors of Fermo to Category:People from Fermo and Category:Mayors of places in Marche
 * Merge Category:Mayors of Macerata to Category:People from Macerata and Category:Mayors of places in Marche
 * Merge Category:Mayors of Pesaro to Category:People from Pesaro and Category:Mayors of places in Marche
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, just two or three articles in each of these categories and they are not part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge all for Now Cleary, these places have had a number of mayors but they will often not be notable. No objection to recreating any category later if the article count grows to 5+. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:19, 23 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Wind power Wyoming

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 * The result of the discussion was: no further action required (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:25, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Wind power Wyoming to Category:Wind power in Wyoming
 * Nominator's rationale: C2C Convention is "Wind power in ...". Terribly sorry but I've made the mistake of creating the new category. I've reverted my other changes, but now the new page must be deleted first? Hope this doesn't cause someone too much trouble. --DB1729 (talk) 13:08, 22 November 2020 (UTC) DB1729 (talk) 13:08, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I guess it's wind power instead of wing power? Marcocapelle (talk) 14:19, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oops. My mistake again. Yes, it should be Category:Wind power in Wyoming, which as explained above, I have mistakenly created. Man I should never edit early in the morning without a coffee. --DB1729 (talk) 15:52, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * as you have already created the new category, the least amount of hassle is if you move the category content manually, then tag the old empty category with . Marcocapelle (talk) 19:36, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * to tag Category:Wind power Wyoming? But I didn't create that category. Thing is, what you just described is exactly how I was going fix the problem initially, until I realized it was a breach of procedure. Isn't it? --DB1729 (talk) 21:41, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I wrongly assumed you created the wrong category page but you created the right page instead. Ok, I'm supporting your nomination. To be precise, first speedy delete Category:Wind power in Wyoming per WP:G7, then speedy rename Category:Wind power Wyoming to Category:Wind power in Wyoming per WP:C2A. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Got it. I have tagged Category:Wind power in Wyoming. Once it's deleted I will speedy rename Category:Wind power Wyoming per WP:C2A. This will create a new renaming proposal and we go from there, right? What will then happen to this thread? --DB1729 (talk) 22:25, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * No (strict) need to create a new rename proposal. You can just wait for this discussion to be closed an implemented by an admin, hopefully in a week. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:11, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I see you already listed it at WP:CFDS. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:25, 23 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Destroyed landmarks in the Netherlands

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting destroyed landmarks in the netherlands


 * Nominator's rationale: Per the others, "landmark" is subjective and the single article in the category is already in Category:Demolished buildings and structures in the Netherlands. SportingFlyer  T · C  12:02, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Support, the term "landmark" may locally have significance e.g. in places in Australia and the United States, but that certainly is not relevant for non-English speaking countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:22, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Destroyed landmarks in Turkmenistan

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:39, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting destroyed landmarks in turkmenistan


 * Nominator's rationale: Per others - "destroyed" and especially "landmarks" are subjective, and there's a good question as to whether the single building in this category was actually destroyed (appears to have been moved.) SportingFlyer  T · C  12:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Support, the term "landmark" may locally have significance e.g. in places in Australia and the United States, but that certainly is not relevant for non-English speaking countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:22, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Alumni of Rift Valley Academy
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete; could be created if any bio articles could be added to it. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:49, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting alumni of rift valley academy


 * Nominator's rationale: This is a category for alumni of a secondary school that has always only had one entry. Which is contain in the article for the school, Rift Valley Academy. So this is category is not really needed. Adamant1 (talk) 11:02, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. With 24 subcategories in Category:Alumni by secondary school in Kenya, it is part of a coherent larger structure, with potential for expansion. Place Clichy (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It is not a complete tree nor meant to be. The larger part of secondary schools is not represented here. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:59, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete for Now No objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5+ articles, but it's been around since 2011 and has yet to aid navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:57, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Dallas (TV franchise) character redirects to lists
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus after 7 weeks and 1 relist. Note there is no prohibition on manually doing the purge and/or split itself. (non-admin closure) William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:24, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Dallas (TV franchise) character redirects to lists to Category:Dallas (TV franchise) character redirects to lists and Category:Dallas (TV franchise) character redirects
 * Nominator's rationale: Most of these don't redirect to a list. Alternatively the category could be purged from these too. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:58, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * Purge, or else split, per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:37, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * do we need new Rcat templates for TV redirects where the target pages are not lists? Cf. Categories for discussion/Log/2020 October 13. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:19, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The redirect template is R from fictional character, the category it populates is Category:Fictional character redirects (both do not use "to lists"). As I've stated elsewhere a few times, the correct thing to do is mass move all sub-categories of fictional character, fictional element and television episode categories (fictional location is already correctly setup) from "to lists". The redirect template clearly states that its usages is for redirect from a fictional character to a related fictional work or list of characters. The destination may be an article about a related fictional work that mentions this character, a standalone list of characters, or a subsection of an article or list., so lists isn't the only valid usage. I don't oppose Armbrust's standalone proposal as that is indeed the desired outcome I seek as well, I just want to point out, that the templates that automate categorization and other things would not work with variations in the title, and I would not like to code these exceptions as I can foresee a sea of bugs. --Gonnym (talk) 11:45, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but please clarify: Armbrust's proposal is to split between "character redirects" and "character redirects to lists" – IIUC, you do oppose this proposal, because the templates would not handle these variations. Rather, you suggest renaming rather than splitting, as part of a mass renaming of c.650 character categories, 70 element categories and 400 episode categories, removing the words "to lists". Please confirm that these three sets could be handled one set at a time. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:51, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I would oppose as that means the templates won't work and because I think that having these small steps in between will do more harm than good. I can confirm that the each type can be handled by its self. --Gonnym (talk) 16:37, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
 * would you have time for a mass tagging of category pages, please? The smallest set is all categories within Category:Fictional element redirects that end with "to lists". The larger sets are within Category:Fictional character redirects and Category:Episode redirects to lists. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:29, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Should be doable, but can you please give me a list of the specific categories to tag (probably better to put it on the talk page of this cfd, or at User:DannyS712/sandbox) so I can be sure I'm tagging the correct categories? And to be clear, all should be tagged for splitting? DannyS712 (talk) 17:34, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

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Category:People who lost United States citizenship
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. There is a rough consensus to rename, but also some skepticism as to whether the category should exist at all. I'm noting here that this is but one subcategory of, so a follow-up nomination may be in order. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:58, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:People who lost United States citizenship to Category:Former United States citizens
 * Nominator's rationale: Or Category:Former citizens of the United States. Some of these people, like Naomi Osaka, did not lose their citizenship, but rather willingly gave it up. Also, new title would match Lists of former United States citizens. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:52, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * Comment. This is one of a number of by-nationality subcategories of Category:People who lost citizenship. I would think that the rationale provided (which I think is good) would apply to all of them. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:30, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment this category includes people who voluntarily renounced US citizenship, which is more in line with the proposed name rather than "lost" which generally means involuntary deprivation of US citizenship. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 05:07, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Is this a defining characteristic of any/all of the people? Note: We deleted people-banned-from categories. DexDor(talk) 21:34, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NONDEF, I checked a number of articles and it mostly has limited weight in these persons' lives. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:34, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * Possible Keep (or reverse merge) -- We should not be discussing this category alone when the parent has 15-20 sibling subcategories. I looked at two articles neither of which mentioned that they had lost citizenship, let alone how: it could be by having renounced it; by being deprived of it for some action; or otherwise.  In one case, the basis of US citizenship was not obvious, but perhaps though a marriage with loss being the result of a divorce.  Possibly split according to reason for loss as there are 197 articles.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * If articles do not even mention the reason of loss, what is the the point of splitting the category by reason of loss? Besides the fact that articles do not bother to mention this, doesn't that confirm the lack of definingness? Marcocapelle (talk) 16:04, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename Loss implies that they wanted to keep it.  Clearly some of them didnt.  Lets have a more neutral term.  Rathfelder (talk) 17:47, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I think citizenship categories are just plain non-defining to most people, and so not worth keeping. We do not categorize by everything that happens to a person, I see no reason to categorize by this. To keep this because of other unwise similar categories would allow proceduralism to preseve category clutter, something that we do not need.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:30, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Citizenship is not usually defining. Losing or giving up citizenship is. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:39, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. As mentioned this is defining and the proposed name is better. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:39, 18 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional people sentenced to death
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:03, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fictional people sentenced to death


 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. ★Trekker (talk) 03:48, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * I am not totally convinced that it is not defining but I'll leave it to others to discuss that. At the very least, before deletion of the category, someone should check manually if some articles ought to be moved to Category:Fictional executed characters. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:02, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - being sentenced to death sounds defining to me. Oculi (talk) 15:22, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep -- The plight of a person awaiting execution or reprieve sounds a serious topic for novelists. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:00, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree with Peterkingiron. Dimadick (talk) 02:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Space program of the United States stubs
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus after 7 weeks and 1 relisting (non-admin closure) William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:06, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Space program of the United States stubs to Category:NASA stubs
 * Nominator's rationale: Space program of the United States is not entirely contained in NASA. US Space Force and US private companies have their own space programs. This category list stubs related to NASA, not USSF or US private companies. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 13:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Yeah, "Space program of the United States" is vague. The "United States" is not merely the Federal government of the United States as Soumya-8974 points out.  So agree this cat should be changed.  Further complicated by the fact that there are a number of countries that are the "United States of ..." other than USA.  For example:  the United States of Mexico or the (historical) United States of Venezuela or the proposed United States of Europe.
 * I could see other names though: Category:Space programs of the United States of America stubs or Category:Space programs of the Federal government of the United States stubs (which would include both the civil space programs (NASA run) and the military prograns (USAF operated for decades, now run by the USSF).
 * Or, if one wanted to include ALL programs being run in the geographic territory of the USA, whether they were gvmt or private, then something like or Category:Space programs operating in the Unites States of America stubs, which could include all the Federal civil space programs (under NASA); plus the military programs (all are Federal, and under USSF today) plus any State-level programs (where US states are pushing, and funding, their own agendas: I can think of several, mostly building and financing spaceports, often with the stated objective of economic development; plus any notable private programs funded and directed by private capital (like the SpaceX reusable launch system development program or the SpaceX Starship development program that is currently in its eighth year since Raptor engine development began, and the private company SpaceX has self-funded with approx. a billion USD to this point.  So, this category needs a change.  But could use additional thinking to get the new cat name(s) right.  N2e (talk) 15:14, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * This category is called by NASA-stub. So, WP:RECOGNIZABLEy, the category should be renamed "NASA stubs". --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:01, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - the parent should be changed from Category:Space program of the United States to its subcat Category:NASA. Concerns about United States should be raised at United States and .Oculi (talk) 20:09, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment and weak oppose - the current name is more inclusive, as it allows for stubs related to NACA, the Army Ballistic Missile Agency, Jupiter-C, and similar, which a NASA-specific stub would not. Grutness... wha?   03:36, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep -- These are administrative categories to encourage people to expand articles. It is much better that they should be broadly drawn, so that we do not have to create unnecessary stub categories.  I think the target minimum is 60.  This is a different situation from normal categories.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:03, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Fantasy film festivals
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge both to a new Category:Fantasy and horror film festivals. There is some support for Category:Speculative fiction film festivals; the new category could be nominated for renaming to that if an editor wishes to do so. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:01, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fantasy film festivals to Category:Fantasy and horror film festivals
 * Propose merging Category:Horror film festivals to Category:Fantasy and horror film festivals
 * Nominator's rationale: At the film festival level, there isn't a very clean segregation between these two film genres. While a very few film festivals do concentrate exclusively on one genre or the other, the vast majority freely blend both -- on a list-comparison in AWB, I found that about half of all the film festivals in both categories were filed as both genres, and even the ones that were filed only in one category or the other also largely should have been in both, as they were still mostly described as "fantasy and horror" film festivals in their articles. So there just isn't a clear enough distinction here to justify two separate categories here, because the vast majority of the contents in both categories are dual-genre fantasy and horror film festivals rather than single-genre fantasy or horror film festivals. Bearcat (talk) 16:00, 12 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment, based on the article titles, most festivals seem to be about either horror or fantasy, and many articles refer to the festivals as simply "film festivals" (which does not solve anything). Marcocapelle (talk) 22:24, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The titles aren't a reliable gauge of anything. Even some of the festivals that do have one word or the other in their titles still describe the festival in body text as crossing over the genre distinction — for example, Telluride Horror Show describes its subject as exhibiting horror, fantasy and science fiction films, not just horror films alone. And festivals with one word or the other in their titles (as opposed to both, or neither) are in the clear minority, not "most", of the titles here even before taking into account that just eyeballing the titles alone still doesn't actually help delineate them cleanly. Bearcat (talk) 23:36, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Comment Should these be merged to Category:Speculative fiction film festivals? Speculative fiction is a broad grouping of "science fiction, fantasy, horror, superhero fiction, alternate history, utopian and dystopian fiction, and supernatural fiction". Dimadick (talk) 20:46, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * I would prefer Category:Fantasy and horror film festivals over Category:Speculative fiction film festivals, as more specific. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:14, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename to speculative fiction name. I think otherwise we are being more precise than accurate, and ignoring the overlap between these multiple set of generes that will heavily overlap in festivals.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:31, 10 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Discographies of African artists
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:46, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting discographies of african artists


 * Nominator's rationale: African isn't a nationality and we don't have a scheme of discographies by continent. For that matter, Category:Discographies by artist nationality is pretty navigable at 86 entries, so it's not necessary to have a by-continent scheme. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Comment, the category could be made more useful when the subcategories are upmerged per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 10:38, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. A scheme by continent at this level does not seem to bring much value. Upmerging the children would go against the practice agreed in previous CfD to use individual continental categories as containers only, to avoid "African" et al. being used as a proxy for race, among other reasons. Place Clichy (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Circular line stations
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Circular line stations (Taipei Metro). Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:44, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting circular line stations


 * Nominator's rationale: A small category. Has only a single page. Should be up merged . Shyamsunder (talk) 10:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Populate, there are a dozen articles that fit the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:27, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, I populated the category with the relevant station articles. Jumpytoo Talk 21:54, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep now that it's populated. <b style="color:#049">YorkshireLad</b> ✿  <b style="color:#052">(talk)</b> 22:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep but Rename The main article is Circular line (Taipei Metro) so Catgory:Circular line stations (Taipei Metro) would be less ambiguous. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:47, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, rename to reduce ambiguity. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 23 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep and rename to Catgory:Circular line stations (Taipei Metro). Place Clichy (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * REname -- London has a Circle line. However, I do not think a parent bringing these together would be worth having.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:05, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Latvia women's national football team managers
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete, merging contents to Category:Women's national association football team managers, Category:Latvia women's national football team and Category:Football managers in Latvia. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:04, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting latvia women's national football team managers


 * Nominator's rationale: The category has only one page. It is a small category and should be up merged. Shyamsunder (talk) 10:35, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment: other categories under Category:Women's national association football team managers have only one article (Argentina, Costa Rica, Ivory Coast, Jamaica, Lebanon, Venezuela...). However they are part of a coherent set, and they have potential for expansion, so WP:SMALLCAT would probably tell us to keep them. I am more concerned if these positions are really defining for people categorized there, who may have had an extensive career as football managers where not all positions are defining. Place Clichy (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to relevant parents. ERGS related national level categories really should be required to have multiple entries before we create them.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:32, 10 December 2020 (UTC)


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Category:African-American heroes and icons
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:39, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting african-american heroes and icons


 * Nominator's rationale: Indefinable and subjective category. That most of those currently listed are very widely admired African-Americans is indisputable - but what are the limits of this category? Are cultural (musical, sports, literary) figures to be included? How do we decide who is/is not a hero and for whom? Pincrete (talk) 10:18, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Response: The nominator has no problem with any of the "very widely admired" people on this list. He or she does not propose any people to be added or deleted. I think this is endorsement of the validity of the category. It is derived in part from List of monuments to African Americans. I think it's doing more good than harm. Correction - it's not doing any harm at all, as I see it. Any problems are hypothetical, and can be dealt with by discussion if and as they come up. Any comment from African-American Wikipedians? deisenbe (talk) 10:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:30, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. This category is too subjective to have any meaning. The category could include any African American who accomplished anything that anybody admired. Corker1 (talk) 18:26, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. Not everything needs a category, there may be a list of notable African Americans with their accomplishments and recognition received. Place Clichy (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Boyne Valley, Queensland
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete, merging content to Category:Gladstone Region. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:56, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting boyne valley, queensland


 * Nominator's rationale: A rural locality doesn't need a category. (Its two subcategories are also nominated for deletion immediately below.) Clarityfiend (talk) 07:25, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * If not kept, merge to parent Category:Gladstone Region. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:32, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Ubobo, Queensland
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete, merging content to Category:Gladstone Region. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:57, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ubobo, queensland


 * Nominator's rationale: Two entries for an obscure town don't merit a category. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge to parent Category:Boyne Valley, Queensland or - dependent on the outcome of the discussion above - to grandparent Category:Gladstone Region. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Nagoorin, Queensland
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete, merging content to Category:Gladstone Region. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:59, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting nagoorin, queensland


 * Nominator's rationale: A category for a town where the town is the only member??? Clarityfiend (talk) 07:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge to parent Category:Boyne Valley, Queensland or - dependent on the outcome of the discussion above - to grandparent Category:Gladstone Region. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Lists of English people by school affiliation
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename, but to Category:Lists of people by English school affiliation. MER-C 16:27, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Lists of English people by school affiliation to Category:List of people by English school affiliation
 * Nominator's rationale: Similar to Category:Lists of people by university or college in England, the people in these lists are not necessarily English themselves. Reywas92Talk 02:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename, more accurate. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:50, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment shouldn't the target be "lists" as well? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:10, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Taipei Metro stations named from roads
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:42, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Upmerging Category:Taipei Metro stations named from roads to Category:Taipei Metro stations
 * Propose Upmerging Category:Taipei Metro stations named from hospitals to Category:Taipei Metro stations
 * Propose Upmerging Category:Taipei Metro stations named from temples‎ to Category:Taipei Metro stations
 * Propose Upmerging Category:Taipei Metro stations named from schools‎ to Category:Taipei Metro stations
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:SHAREDNAME)
 * Taipei Metro stations are typically named after nearby roads or buildings for easier references, like with many transit systems. These categories group these stations by the type of name they have which is classic WP:SHAREDNAME. We categorize roads, hospitals, temples and schools separately but these are all metro stations - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Background We previously deleted Hong Kong metro stations named after roads right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge, obvious case of WP:SHAREDNAME. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge. per nom. This will be better served by a list of Taipei metro stations by type of eponym. Place Clichy (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Places named after Cesar Chavez‎
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:38, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Places named after Cesar Chavez‎
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Places named after Queen Elizabeth II‎
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Places named after Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar‎
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:SHAREDNAME)
 * The Queen's category is my favorite grab bag of unrelated articles including Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Queen Elizabeth Power Station, Queen Elizabeth Planetarium and Queen Elizabeth Subplate. Mr. Chavez has a lot of streets named after him while Mr. Vidyasagar‎ has many schools named in his honour. All three of these are classic WP:SHAREDNAME because they are things that would have been built anyway so they're not defined by their name and the contents are already listified here, here, and here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Background In the past, we've deleted similar categories here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, obvious case of WP:SHAREDNAME. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Cesar Chavez ... this is a defining characteric, and a list already exists. --evrik (talk) 16:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This is precisely the stuff for which lists articles are better. Place Clichy (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Update Since this nomination was posted, both Category:Places named after Thomas Jefferson and Category:Places named after Yasser Arafat have been deleted/listified. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:47, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete SHAREDNAME is an illicit basis for a category. Listify if necessary.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:08, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per ample precedent. If Lenin and Stalin can't have their categories, HM can't have hers either. Call it détente. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:13, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


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